Who can we safely say probably wont return?
Who can we safely say probably wont return?
Let's just assume that while they may be DLC, everyone who died in MK9 won't be part of the main roster. Let this be like Mortal Kombat Deception where everyone who died in the last game takes at least one game off so other fighters can get some attention and new faces can be introduced.
Now that that's out of the way, I predict that Kintaro and Sheeva also won't reappear since Sheeva was never popular and the only character from the first three games who didn't get cooler in subsequent appearances. Also, Kintaro won't appear since we already have Goro who has similar moves to both he and Sheeva.
Chameleon and Khameleon are incredibly broken moveset cut/paste fighters. They won't reappear since tournament level players will abuse them and then whine about the game being unbalanced. The story of MK doesn't need them either. They're just there.
From MK4, I really doubt that we'll see Jarek return since Kano is in the game. Yeah, he got the lasso in MKA but he didn't make a big enough impact to have an effect on fans. He's a best forgotten moveset clone.
Meat is a joke fighter. As such, if he appears, he'll be DLC since I don't see him having a story role.
Kai was always just a copy of Liu Kang and Kung Lao. We don't need another Shaolin monk and his story was never interesting.
Moloch was such a frustrating boss to fight against in MKDA and was so broken in MKA that I really can't see him return even if MKX's storyline is about the Neatherrealm.
Drahmin is related to the Neatherrealm but I also don't feel like his has many fans. When it comes to undead characters, we already have better options. He's just kind of there.
Mavado's gameplay revolved around 3D fight mechanics. I'm not sure how he'd work in a 2D environment and if he was significantly reworked, he'd be Mavado in name only.
Hsu Hao is an offensive homophobic stereotype. He was cringeworthy back in the early 2000s and even more so today. He's probably never going to reappear in the new timeline, at least not in any playable capacity.
Mokap is a joke fighter like Meat. He's also not going to return.
With Sub-Zero having three variations, I don't feel like there's room for Frost. She's a cool character but I don't feel like the fight system really allows for her.
Blaze always lacked a personality and his moveset changed between MKDA and MKA and in both incarnations, he had a bland design.
Kira is yet another Kano clone. Much like Jarek, I don't see her coming back since Kano is already in the game.
Shukinko is just a cut/paste of other fighters. He's broken by design and will only be more broken in a 2D game where you can't sidestep special moves. He's was also created to introduce new players to the world of Mortal Kombat and we now have a story mode for that, plus his backstory is far too convoluted to put into a new game where he shares the spotlight with other fighters.
Kobra was just an homage to Ken Masters from Street Fighter. He's never been cool or interesting and his moves are boring.
I personally like the Seido vs Chaosrealm subplot from MK2 but given that MKX is going to focus on the Neatherrealm, I feel like Hotaru, Darrius and Dairou won't be coming back. They may return in the next game but I really don't feel like MKX is the right place for them. Havik may return as DLC but he'd just make the story too convoluted if he's put in the main roster.
Taven and Daegon are both crappy characters who were part of MKA's terrible story. These two will hopefully never return since their very presence means that the world is going to end in the new timeline and Raiden accomplished nothing in MK9.
Skarlet also lacked any sense of personality in MK9 and her role in the story of MKX would be better filled by Reiko, Mileena or Reptile.
So that's everyone who I'm pretty sure won't be coming back. In some cases for story reasons, in others because they just plain suck. Everyone else is fair game to return.
Now that that's out of the way, I predict that Kintaro and Sheeva also won't reappear since Sheeva was never popular and the only character from the first three games who didn't get cooler in subsequent appearances. Also, Kintaro won't appear since we already have Goro who has similar moves to both he and Sheeva.
Chameleon and Khameleon are incredibly broken moveset cut/paste fighters. They won't reappear since tournament level players will abuse them and then whine about the game being unbalanced. The story of MK doesn't need them either. They're just there.
From MK4, I really doubt that we'll see Jarek return since Kano is in the game. Yeah, he got the lasso in MKA but he didn't make a big enough impact to have an effect on fans. He's a best forgotten moveset clone.
Meat is a joke fighter. As such, if he appears, he'll be DLC since I don't see him having a story role.
Kai was always just a copy of Liu Kang and Kung Lao. We don't need another Shaolin monk and his story was never interesting.
Moloch was such a frustrating boss to fight against in MKDA and was so broken in MKA that I really can't see him return even if MKX's storyline is about the Neatherrealm.
Drahmin is related to the Neatherrealm but I also don't feel like his has many fans. When it comes to undead characters, we already have better options. He's just kind of there.
Mavado's gameplay revolved around 3D fight mechanics. I'm not sure how he'd work in a 2D environment and if he was significantly reworked, he'd be Mavado in name only.
Hsu Hao is an offensive homophobic stereotype. He was cringeworthy back in the early 2000s and even more so today. He's probably never going to reappear in the new timeline, at least not in any playable capacity.
Mokap is a joke fighter like Meat. He's also not going to return.
With Sub-Zero having three variations, I don't feel like there's room for Frost. She's a cool character but I don't feel like the fight system really allows for her.
Blaze always lacked a personality and his moveset changed between MKDA and MKA and in both incarnations, he had a bland design.
Kira is yet another Kano clone. Much like Jarek, I don't see her coming back since Kano is already in the game.
Shukinko is just a cut/paste of other fighters. He's broken by design and will only be more broken in a 2D game where you can't sidestep special moves. He's was also created to introduce new players to the world of Mortal Kombat and we now have a story mode for that, plus his backstory is far too convoluted to put into a new game where he shares the spotlight with other fighters.
Kobra was just an homage to Ken Masters from Street Fighter. He's never been cool or interesting and his moves are boring.
I personally like the Seido vs Chaosrealm subplot from MK2 but given that MKX is going to focus on the Neatherrealm, I feel like Hotaru, Darrius and Dairou won't be coming back. They may return in the next game but I really don't feel like MKX is the right place for them. Havik may return as DLC but he'd just make the story too convoluted if he's put in the main roster.
Taven and Daegon are both crappy characters who were part of MKA's terrible story. These two will hopefully never return since their very presence means that the world is going to end in the new timeline and Raiden accomplished nothing in MK9.
Skarlet also lacked any sense of personality in MK9 and her role in the story of MKX would be better filled by Reiko, Mileena or Reptile.
So that's everyone who I'm pretty sure won't be coming back. In some cases for story reasons, in others because they just plain suck. Everyone else is fair game to return.
So your point would be "to hell with 3D-era characters"?
I think guys like Shinnok, Fujin, Tanya, Reiko, Bo' Rai' Cho and Havik have a decent chance of appearing in the game. However I do agree that we won't be seeing that Kobra/Kira crap anymore.
I think guys like Shinnok, Fujin, Tanya, Reiko, Bo' Rai' Cho and Havik have a decent chance of appearing in the game. However I do agree that we won't be seeing that Kobra/Kira crap anymore.
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It's easier to list the characters who DO have a chance.
-Liu Kang
-Shang Tsung
-Sonya Blade
-Johnny Cage
-Baraka
-Reptile
-Kitana
-Mileena
-Cyrax
-Sektor
-Ermac
-Tanya
-Fujin
-Reiko
-Shinnok
-Kai
-Kenshi
-Bo' Rai Cho
-Sareena
-Ashrah
-Havik
-Hotaru
If anyone I didn't list is playable, color me surprised.
-Liu Kang
-Shang Tsung
-Sonya Blade
-Johnny Cage
-Baraka
-Reptile
-Kitana
-Mileena
-Cyrax
-Sektor
-Ermac
-Tanya
-Fujin
-Reiko
-Shinnok
-Kai
-Kenshi
-Bo' Rai Cho
-Sareena
-Ashrah
-Havik
-Hotaru
If anyone I didn't list is playable, color me surprised.
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... Deception did not do that.
Really? I thought Sheeva actually had a cool appearance in Armageddon.
Just because the Shokan characters have similar moves, doesn't mean each can't play differently. They obviously can.
Yeah, because the creators are totally just going to continue making them broken and such. It's not like they'll actually take their time to fix the problems that they had with these characters to make them legit fighters for "tournament" fighters.
God forbids anything that the tournies don't like, shouldn't make a come back. I mean, I don't care for these characters because I'd rather play one of the "ninjas" rather than playing as a character who possesses one of their abilities, but it's not like they wouldn't be fixed on.
He can easily make a return and NOT be a "clone."
Meh, I got nothing.
Really? A copy of Liu Kang? I never got that, nor do I see others saying that. As a matter of fact, majority of the users here intend to see this character return. Hell, there was a fake image that was up for like... thirty seconds or something that fooled us into thinking Kai was the next character to be revealed (It was proven to be an image of some rapper, can't remember the name).
Just because a character had a lackluster story, doesn't mean that should do it for people. I mean he has potential to be a good character.
Well, he's good enough to make a partial cameo in an introduction.
Boon already confirmed he's not returning.
This makes no sense... He can easily be worked to where he CAN work in a 2D environment, you'd just scrap the moves that are 3D and give him something different.
I don't get how he's an "offensive homophobic." I'd like an explanation as to how he is.
It's because of his hat isn't it?
But despite your silly reason for him not to return, Boon already confirmed him too not returning.
He maybe a joke to you, but not to Carlos.
She can work if you have her do something different with ice... She could more so slow the opponent down rather than freezing them altogether. She can play differently from Sub-Zero if she's worked on.
Well, I doubt he'll have much of a point to be in this game because of who he is.
Again, she can easily obtain new moves. Despite people overlook things way too much in Mortal Kombat, she had a very interesting backstory.
She can easily return, just given new moves and probably some touch ups with her appearance.
Blah blah blah he's broken because tourney players complain... Yeah, he wasn't that interesting of a character, move-wise, but he has a crucial part to play in the story. Despite his fate is currently unknown at this moment, I've had a change in heart and wouldn't mind seeing him in the future if the whole Dragon King story is to partake in the future games.
You're boring.
*Snorts* You're the only person I see against having Havik return. I might not get the whole love behind this character as I never really found him interesting (and thank god the artists decided NOT to give Noob this costume), still, who he is seems like a cool character for this game.
Same with Hotaru, I can easily see him backing up Kotal Kahn with the kind of character he is.
Darrius and Dairou however, are the only two characters I will agree out of this list that should remain out of the game. I hated them.
Taven, maybe, Daegon? Please. He's the more interesting character out of the brothers. He established the Red Dragon. I'd like to see more of that character come into action with that.
She lacked personality because she is technically created as a weapon. They're not supposed to have personalities. But who knows, maybe now that Kahn is dead, she can evolve into an actual being who has emotions and such.
She really wasn't that bad of a character. Her voice was annoying, yeah, but she was fun to play as.
Nah, I just think you think they all suck so those who you don't like shouldn't return.
Although I really would like to know how Hsu Hao is an offensive homophobic.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Let's just assume that while they may be DLC, everyone who died in MK9 won't be part of the main roster. Let this be like Mortal Kombat Deception where everyone who died in the last game takes at least one game off so other fighters can get some attention and new faces can be introduced.
Let's just assume that while they may be DLC, everyone who died in MK9 won't be part of the main roster. Let this be like Mortal Kombat Deception where everyone who died in the last game takes at least one game off so other fighters can get some attention and new faces can be introduced.
... Deception did not do that.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Now that that's out of the way, I predict that Kintaro and Sheeva also won't reappear since Sheeva was never popular and the only character from the first three games who didn't get cooler in subsequent appearances. Also, Kintaro won't appear since we already have Goro who has similar moves to both he and Sheeva.
Now that that's out of the way, I predict that Kintaro and Sheeva also won't reappear since Sheeva was never popular and the only character from the first three games who didn't get cooler in subsequent appearances. Also, Kintaro won't appear since we already have Goro who has similar moves to both he and Sheeva.
Really? I thought Sheeva actually had a cool appearance in Armageddon.
Just because the Shokan characters have similar moves, doesn't mean each can't play differently. They obviously can.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Chameleon and Khameleon are incredibly broken moveset cut/paste fighters. They won't reappear since tournament level players will abuse them and then whine about the game being unbalanced. The story of MK doesn't need them either. They're just there.
Chameleon and Khameleon are incredibly broken moveset cut/paste fighters. They won't reappear since tournament level players will abuse them and then whine about the game being unbalanced. The story of MK doesn't need them either. They're just there.
Yeah, because the creators are totally just going to continue making them broken and such. It's not like they'll actually take their time to fix the problems that they had with these characters to make them legit fighters for "tournament" fighters.
God forbids anything that the tournies don't like, shouldn't make a come back. I mean, I don't care for these characters because I'd rather play one of the "ninjas" rather than playing as a character who possesses one of their abilities, but it's not like they wouldn't be fixed on.
Dasher10 Wrote:
From MK4, I really doubt that we'll see Jarek return since Kano is in the game. Yeah, he got the lasso in MKA but he didn't make a big enough impact to have an effect on fans. He's a best forgotten moveset clone.
From MK4, I really doubt that we'll see Jarek return since Kano is in the game. Yeah, he got the lasso in MKA but he didn't make a big enough impact to have an effect on fans. He's a best forgotten moveset clone.
He can easily make a return and NOT be a "clone."
Dasher10 Wrote:
Meat is a joke fighter. As such, if he appears, he'll be DLC since I don't see him having a story role.
Meat is a joke fighter. As such, if he appears, he'll be DLC since I don't see him having a story role.
Meh, I got nothing.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Kai was always just a copy of Liu Kang and Kung Lao. We don't need another Shaolin monk and his story was never interesting.
Kai was always just a copy of Liu Kang and Kung Lao. We don't need another Shaolin monk and his story was never interesting.
Really? A copy of Liu Kang? I never got that, nor do I see others saying that. As a matter of fact, majority of the users here intend to see this character return. Hell, there was a fake image that was up for like... thirty seconds or something that fooled us into thinking Kai was the next character to be revealed (It was proven to be an image of some rapper, can't remember the name).
Just because a character had a lackluster story, doesn't mean that should do it for people. I mean he has potential to be a good character.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Moloch was such a frustrating boss to fight against in MKDA and was so broken in MKA that I really can't see him return even if MKX's storyline is about the Neatherrealm.
Moloch was such a frustrating boss to fight against in MKDA and was so broken in MKA that I really can't see him return even if MKX's storyline is about the Neatherrealm.
Well, he's good enough to make a partial cameo in an introduction.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Drahmin is related to the Neatherrealm but I also don't feel like his has many fans. When it comes to undead characters, we already have better options. He's just kind of there.
Drahmin is related to the Neatherrealm but I also don't feel like his has many fans. When it comes to undead characters, we already have better options. He's just kind of there.
Boon already confirmed he's not returning.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Mavado's gameplay revolved around 3D fight mechanics. I'm not sure how he'd work in a 2D environment and if he was significantly reworked, he'd be Mavado in name only.
Mavado's gameplay revolved around 3D fight mechanics. I'm not sure how he'd work in a 2D environment and if he was significantly reworked, he'd be Mavado in name only.
This makes no sense... He can easily be worked to where he CAN work in a 2D environment, you'd just scrap the moves that are 3D and give him something different.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Hsu Hao is an offensive homophobic stereotype. He was cringeworthy back in the early 2000s and even more so today. He's probably never going to reappear in the new timeline, at least not in any playable capacity.
Hsu Hao is an offensive homophobic stereotype. He was cringeworthy back in the early 2000s and even more so today. He's probably never going to reappear in the new timeline, at least not in any playable capacity.
I don't get how he's an "offensive homophobic." I'd like an explanation as to how he is.
It's because of his hat isn't it?
But despite your silly reason for him not to return, Boon already confirmed him too not returning.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Mokap is a joke fighter like Meat. He's also not going to return.
Mokap is a joke fighter like Meat. He's also not going to return.
He maybe a joke to you, but not to Carlos.
Dasher10 Wrote:
With Sub-Zero having three variations, I don't feel like there's room for Frost. She's a cool character but I don't feel like the fight system really allows for her.
With Sub-Zero having three variations, I don't feel like there's room for Frost. She's a cool character but I don't feel like the fight system really allows for her.
She can work if you have her do something different with ice... She could more so slow the opponent down rather than freezing them altogether. She can play differently from Sub-Zero if she's worked on.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Blaze always lacked a personality and his moveset changed between MKDA and MKA and in both incarnations, he had a bland design.
Blaze always lacked a personality and his moveset changed between MKDA and MKA and in both incarnations, he had a bland design.
Well, I doubt he'll have much of a point to be in this game because of who he is.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Kira is yet another Kano clone. Much like Jarek, I don't see her coming back since Kano is already in the game.
Kira is yet another Kano clone. Much like Jarek, I don't see her coming back since Kano is already in the game.
Again, she can easily obtain new moves. Despite people overlook things way too much in Mortal Kombat, she had a very interesting backstory.
She can easily return, just given new moves and probably some touch ups with her appearance.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Shukinko is just a cut/paste of other fighters. He's broken by design and will only be more broken in a 2D game where you can't sidestep special moves. He's was also created to introduce new players to the world of Mortal Kombat and we now have a story mode for that, plus his backstory is far too convoluted to put into a new game where he shares the spotlight with other fighters.
Shukinko is just a cut/paste of other fighters. He's broken by design and will only be more broken in a 2D game where you can't sidestep special moves. He's was also created to introduce new players to the world of Mortal Kombat and we now have a story mode for that, plus his backstory is far too convoluted to put into a new game where he shares the spotlight with other fighters.
Blah blah blah he's broken because tourney players complain... Yeah, he wasn't that interesting of a character, move-wise, but he has a crucial part to play in the story. Despite his fate is currently unknown at this moment, I've had a change in heart and wouldn't mind seeing him in the future if the whole Dragon King story is to partake in the future games.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Kobra was just an homage to Ken Masters from Street Fighter. He's never been cool or interesting and his moves are boring.
Kobra was just an homage to Ken Masters from Street Fighter. He's never been cool or interesting and his moves are boring.
You're boring.
Dasher10 Wrote:
I personally like the Seido vs Chaosrealm subplot from MK2 but given that MKX is going to focus on the Neatherrealm, I feel like Hotaru, Darrius and Dairou won't be coming back. They may return in the next game but I really don't feel like MKX is the right place for them. Havik may return as DLC but he'd just make the story too convoluted if he's put in the main roster.
I personally like the Seido vs Chaosrealm subplot from MK2 but given that MKX is going to focus on the Neatherrealm, I feel like Hotaru, Darrius and Dairou won't be coming back. They may return in the next game but I really don't feel like MKX is the right place for them. Havik may return as DLC but he'd just make the story too convoluted if he's put in the main roster.
*Snorts* You're the only person I see against having Havik return. I might not get the whole love behind this character as I never really found him interesting (and thank god the artists decided NOT to give Noob this costume), still, who he is seems like a cool character for this game.
Same with Hotaru, I can easily see him backing up Kotal Kahn with the kind of character he is.
Darrius and Dairou however, are the only two characters I will agree out of this list that should remain out of the game. I hated them.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Taven and Daegon are both crappy characters who were part of MKA's terrible story. These two will hopefully never return since their very presence means that the world is going to end in the new timeline and Raiden accomplished nothing in MK9.
Taven and Daegon are both crappy characters who were part of MKA's terrible story. These two will hopefully never return since their very presence means that the world is going to end in the new timeline and Raiden accomplished nothing in MK9.
Taven, maybe, Daegon? Please. He's the more interesting character out of the brothers. He established the Red Dragon. I'd like to see more of that character come into action with that.
Dasher10 Wrote:
Skarlet also lacked any sense of personality in MK9 and her role in the story of MKX would be better filled by Reiko, Mileena or Reptile.
Skarlet also lacked any sense of personality in MK9 and her role in the story of MKX would be better filled by Reiko, Mileena or Reptile.
She lacked personality because she is technically created as a weapon. They're not supposed to have personalities. But who knows, maybe now that Kahn is dead, she can evolve into an actual being who has emotions and such.
She really wasn't that bad of a character. Her voice was annoying, yeah, but she was fun to play as.
Dasher10 Wrote:
So that's everyone who I'm pretty sure won't be coming back. In some cases for story reasons, in others because they just plain suck. Everyone else is fair game to return.
So that's everyone who I'm pretty sure won't be coming back. In some cases for story reasons, in others because they just plain suck. Everyone else is fair game to return.
Nah, I just think you think they all suck so those who you don't like shouldn't return.
Although I really would like to know how Hsu Hao is an offensive homophobic.
MK-Noob Wrote:
So your point would be "to hell with 3D-era characters"?
I think guys like Shinnok, Fujin, Tanya, Reiko, Bo' Rai' Cho and Havik have a decent chance of appearing in the game. However I do agree that we won't be seeing that Kobra/Kira crap anymore.
So your point would be "to hell with 3D-era characters"?
I think guys like Shinnok, Fujin, Tanya, Reiko, Bo' Rai' Cho and Havik have a decent chance of appearing in the game. However I do agree that we won't be seeing that Kobra/Kira crap anymore.
I specifically stated that Reiko has a chance to be in the game. I said that he'd be better than Skarlet. I also said that the game will probably be about the Netherrealm which means that Shinnok is almost certain to be in the game.
I also said that Havik may be in the game as DLC but I don't see him making the main roster. Learn to read more carefully.
Also, I never trashed Fujin, Tanja or BRC. I feel like they all have a chance to make it into the game, particularly Fujin.
I'd also be VERY open to Sareena, Ashrah, Li Mei and Nitara returning and after MKX is done with, I'd like to see Havik, Dairou, Darrius and Hotaru return, the four of them need to be the center of their own game instead of crammed into MKX or else the plot gets too confusing. Nitara is a bit lower on my list since I don't see where she fits into the main story with only 24 roster slots.
As for who I WOULD like to see return from MK9, I'd like to see Kenshi, Johnny Cage and Sonya all return as heroes. As for villains, I feel like Ermac, Mileena and Reptile can all come back.
My ideal roster would be
1. Scorpion
2. Sub-Zero
3. Raiden
4. Quan Chi
5. Kano
6. D'Vorah
7. Ferra/Torr
8, Cassie Cage
9. Kotal Kahn
10. Shinnok
11. Sareena
12. Ashrah
13. Reiko
14. Johnny Cage
15. Sonya
16. Kenshi
17. Reptile
18. Fujin
19. Mileena
20. Li Mei
21. BRC
22. New Fighter
23. New Fighter
24. New fighter
Console Exclusives (since NRS loves guest fighters)
PS4 -> Sweet Tooth
XBO -> Marcus Fenix
PC -> Demoman
DLC (since MK9 could handle 4 DLC fighter and Injustice could handle 6 + we're getting one on day one, plus free to play games have confirmed that there is a demand for games to continue to grow for a long, long time.)
1. Goro
2. Havik
3. Jax
4. Nitara
5. Tanya
6. Rain
7. Tremor
8. Jade
9. Liu Kang
10. Kung Lao
11. Baraka
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I am in the belief that all characters have a fair chance of being in the game until confirmed otherwise.
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Here's how I see things, in terms of who likely won't be returning:
Chameleon
Khameleon
Jarek
Kai
Meat
Blaze
Mavado
Hsu Hao
Mokap
Moloch
Darrius
Dairou
Kobra
Kira
Shujinko
Daegon
Taven
Onaga
Those are the ones I really don't see, ever being playable again. A cameo, maybe, but I think these characters were the bottom of the barrel, all things considered. Not that they were all awful, but with over 50 to choose from, and an apparent focus on new characters being introduced as well, I don't see these ones coming back. I think they realize which characters had potential, which didn't, which were popular, which weren't, what can be done better by introducing someone new instead, and how to go forward from there. Knocking out 18 characters, is a nice way to trim the fat of the roster.
I don't see the events of Deadly Alliance through Armageddon being relived through the new timeline, otherwise what's the point? So a lot of these characters are going to get the axe, either relegated to a mere cameo in story or someone's bio/ending, or just completely forgotten about.
Chameleon
Khameleon
Jarek
Kai
Meat
Blaze
Mavado
Hsu Hao
Mokap
Moloch
Darrius
Dairou
Kobra
Kira
Shujinko
Daegon
Taven
Onaga
Those are the ones I really don't see, ever being playable again. A cameo, maybe, but I think these characters were the bottom of the barrel, all things considered. Not that they were all awful, but with over 50 to choose from, and an apparent focus on new characters being introduced as well, I don't see these ones coming back. I think they realize which characters had potential, which didn't, which were popular, which weren't, what can be done better by introducing someone new instead, and how to go forward from there. Knocking out 18 characters, is a nice way to trim the fat of the roster.
I don't see the events of Deadly Alliance through Armageddon being relived through the new timeline, otherwise what's the point? So a lot of these characters are going to get the axe, either relegated to a mere cameo in story or someone's bio/ending, or just completely forgotten about.
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projectzero00 Wrote:
Do I sense a little hostility here?
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I think it was more like "Alright, let's get to it" before she responded to the long post.
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I was talking about the rest of the post tbh. Not the first part lol
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The Sindel Massacre doesn't look so good for returning.
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Icebaby's post was on point.
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If I were to bet, I'd say a lot of the characters that debuted in Deadly Alliance and Deception.
Outside of the hardcore fanbase (people like us), you don't hear many calling for Kobra, Darrius, Mavado, Frost, and the like. Even the MK4 gang seems to have more requests than them, just from looking at Twitter.
Granted, they could put anyone from MKDA and MKD in and give them a cool new design, some better moves, and construct a fresh new story around them, and we might even be surprised by some kind of new...oh...let's say, Nitara (Oooh, I'd actually like that.).
But then why make it a point to create a lot of new characters when you have just as many (if not more) existing characters that are relevant to this general time frame in the storyline and have barely been used? Possible answer: Because you regret creating them.
Outside of the hardcore fanbase (people like us), you don't hear many calling for Kobra, Darrius, Mavado, Frost, and the like. Even the MK4 gang seems to have more requests than them, just from looking at Twitter.
Granted, they could put anyone from MKDA and MKD in and give them a cool new design, some better moves, and construct a fresh new story around them, and we might even be surprised by some kind of new...oh...let's say, Nitara (Oooh, I'd actually like that.).
But then why make it a point to create a lot of new characters when you have just as many (if not more) existing characters that are relevant to this general time frame in the storyline and have barely been used? Possible answer: Because you regret creating them.
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Icebaby Wrote:
No, I'm not being hostile. -_-
projectzero00 Wrote:
I was talking about the rest of the post tbh. Not the first part lol
I was talking about the rest of the post tbh. Not the first part lol
No, I'm not being hostile. -_-
Well you pretty much shut him down completely. I agree that some of his comments were a bit silly (Homophobic Hao) but he is making some good points. Meat and Mokap are indeed jokes that have no chances of returning. Taven and Daegon have no place in the story either since MK is going down a different path this time. Kira and Kobra are indeed clone characters and even if I'd love Kira's moveset revamped because I loved her storyline, there's no chance she's coming back based on how hated she is. Same applies for Kobra, Dairou, Darrius, etc. Could they all be revamped and Ermac-fied? Most definitely. Is there a chance tho? A slim one if any.
Unfortunately it seems the only post-MK3 characters that have any chances of returning are Shinnok, Tanya, Fujin, Havik and Kenshi. And with the way things are turning out I fear even those 5 might miss out. Shame, coz I was waiting for this game to reintroduce a bunch of the 3D era characters.
projectzero00 Wrote:
Well you pretty much shut him down completely. I agree that some of his comments were a bit silly (Homophobic Hao) but he is making some good points. Meat and Mokap are indeed jokes that have no chances of returning. Taven and Daegon have no place in the story either since MK is going down a different path this time. Kira and Kobra are indeed clone characters and even if I'd love Kira's moveset revamped because I loved her storyline, there's no chance she's coming back based on how hated she is. Same applies for Kobra, Dairou, Darrius, etc. Could they all be revamped and Ermac-fied? Most definitely. Is there a chance tho? A slim one if any.
Unfortunately it seems the only post-MK3 characters that have any chances of returning are Shinnok, Tanya, Fujin, Havik and Kenshi. And with the way things are turning out I fear even those 5 might miss out. Shame, coz I was waiting for this game to reintroduce a bunch of the 3D era characters.
Icebaby Wrote:
No, I'm not being hostile. -_-
projectzero00 Wrote:
I was talking about the rest of the post tbh. Not the first part lol
I was talking about the rest of the post tbh. Not the first part lol
No, I'm not being hostile. -_-
Well you pretty much shut him down completely. I agree that some of his comments were a bit silly (Homophobic Hao) but he is making some good points. Meat and Mokap are indeed jokes that have no chances of returning. Taven and Daegon have no place in the story either since MK is going down a different path this time. Kira and Kobra are indeed clone characters and even if I'd love Kira's moveset revamped because I loved her storyline, there's no chance she's coming back based on how hated she is. Same applies for Kobra, Dairou, Darrius, etc. Could they all be revamped and Ermac-fied? Most definitely. Is there a chance tho? A slim one if any.
Unfortunately it seems the only post-MK3 characters that have any chances of returning are Shinnok, Tanya, Fujin, Havik and Kenshi. And with the way things are turning out I fear even those 5 might miss out. Shame, coz I was waiting for this game to reintroduce a bunch of the 3D era characters.
Can I ask, "Why do you care?"
His points were either, "They had a stupid story," or "they weren't fair to tournament players," or "they're clones."
In which I turned around and said pretty much everyone can be fleshed out to where they're stories get written better, their moves can be changed, characters won't be considered clones anymore. That's not being hostile, everyone has a chance if you look around the flaws with a character.
You really had a problem with what I said to someone that's not you?
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I'm confused when you mention Mortal Kombat Deception and dead characters. Yes, in the beginning, it showed dead characters, and those characters didn't appear as playable.
"Mortal Kombat Unchained" on the PSP however...made those dead characters playable, and I was jelly.
Your reason for Kintaro, Goro and Sheeva is ridiculous.
They clearly fought differently from each other in Mortal Kombat.
I swear you're simply saying this just because they have four arms.
And also, the PSVita version of Mortal Kombat let's you plays as the bosses. But really, you don't need to play as them to know that they're different from each other if you actually played Mortal Kombat and don't quit on Shang Tsung in the Arcade Ladder.
Also to mention, there's no telling if Goro is roster playable or a Story Mode playable. Think about that.
Yeah yeah yeah fuck C/Khameleon. But really, if they're going for a "one character has everyone's attacks", It would be wise for NRS to let Shinnok take over that once again, and as a Variation no less.
Or did we not play Mortal Kombat 4?
Kai is not a Liu Kang and Kung Lao copy.
And if Shang Tsung is not playable, Kai can easily take his place since he also has air and ground projectiles.
With both Shaolin Monks dead (assuming Liu Kang doesn't get bullshit revived), Kai could fit right in and become the new Earthrealm champion.
I...I think I just heard a river or tears flowing...
Again, I swear you're saying just because he's a Shaolin Monk.
I hate to break it to you, but according to the boot analyzed, we are getting a new monk of some type.
Moloch is dead. Confirmed by Quan Chi's intro.
And NRS doesn't care for Drahmin enough to make him playable.
Story? Maybe.
"Mavado's gameplay revolved around 3D fight mechanics. I'm not sure how he'd work in a 2D environment and if he was significantly reworked, he'd be Mavado in name only."
The thing about NetherRealm Studios, they are at their peek where they can turn ANY character, and make them fun to play as unlike their past games. In the old games, I stuck to only one or two characters. But now that they got the custom combo mechanics in their game, I actually take the time and put characters in Training mode and see what insane combos I can pull off. Even fucking Freddy Krueger was fun to me.
Mavado can still work.
Skarlet has a command input that makes her dash forward and another button makes her do additional attacks. Mavado could probably work in a similar fashion with his grapple hooks.
Here's the thing, me, I don't care for Mavado, but even I believe he can still work as a 2D character and make me like him. That's how much faith I have in NRS's character development.
He could have a lot of grapple attacks. Like Sindel hair grab in MK9.
You already said what anybody could tell you about Hsu Hao right now. He won't be playable. Story mode appearance? Maybe.
"With Sub-Zero having three variations, I don't feel like there's room for Frost. She's a cool character but I don't feel like the fight system really allows for her."
The power of Ice has no limits like the power of fire, and how many motherfuckers in Mortal Kombat use fire!?
I've seen a lot of media outside of Mortal Kombat doing crazy shit with ice powers that I never thought were possible.
Frost can work, even if she borrows moves that Sub-Zero doesn't do anymore and Killer Frost from Injustice, and she still has her own attacks from Deadly Alliance/Armageddon.
"Mortal Kombat Unchained" on the PSP however...made those dead characters playable, and I was jelly.
Your reason for Kintaro, Goro and Sheeva is ridiculous.
They clearly fought differently from each other in Mortal Kombat.
I swear you're simply saying this just because they have four arms.
And also, the PSVita version of Mortal Kombat let's you plays as the bosses. But really, you don't need to play as them to know that they're different from each other if you actually played Mortal Kombat and don't quit on Shang Tsung in the Arcade Ladder.
Also to mention, there's no telling if Goro is roster playable or a Story Mode playable. Think about that.
Yeah yeah yeah fuck C/Khameleon. But really, if they're going for a "one character has everyone's attacks", It would be wise for NRS to let Shinnok take over that once again, and as a Variation no less.
Or did we not play Mortal Kombat 4?
Kai is not a Liu Kang and Kung Lao copy.
And if Shang Tsung is not playable, Kai can easily take his place since he also has air and ground projectiles.
With both Shaolin Monks dead (assuming Liu Kang doesn't get bullshit revived), Kai could fit right in and become the new Earthrealm champion.
I...I think I just heard a river or tears flowing...
Again, I swear you're saying just because he's a Shaolin Monk.
I hate to break it to you, but according to the boot analyzed, we are getting a new monk of some type.
Moloch is dead. Confirmed by Quan Chi's intro.
And NRS doesn't care for Drahmin enough to make him playable.
Story? Maybe.
"Mavado's gameplay revolved around 3D fight mechanics. I'm not sure how he'd work in a 2D environment and if he was significantly reworked, he'd be Mavado in name only."
The thing about NetherRealm Studios, they are at their peek where they can turn ANY character, and make them fun to play as unlike their past games. In the old games, I stuck to only one or two characters. But now that they got the custom combo mechanics in their game, I actually take the time and put characters in Training mode and see what insane combos I can pull off. Even fucking Freddy Krueger was fun to me.
Mavado can still work.
Skarlet has a command input that makes her dash forward and another button makes her do additional attacks. Mavado could probably work in a similar fashion with his grapple hooks.
Here's the thing, me, I don't care for Mavado, but even I believe he can still work as a 2D character and make me like him. That's how much faith I have in NRS's character development.
He could have a lot of grapple attacks. Like Sindel hair grab in MK9.
You already said what anybody could tell you about Hsu Hao right now. He won't be playable. Story mode appearance? Maybe.
"With Sub-Zero having three variations, I don't feel like there's room for Frost. She's a cool character but I don't feel like the fight system really allows for her."
The power of Ice has no limits like the power of fire, and how many motherfuckers in Mortal Kombat use fire!?
I've seen a lot of media outside of Mortal Kombat doing crazy shit with ice powers that I never thought were possible.
Frost can work, even if she borrows moves that Sub-Zero doesn't do anymore and Killer Frost from Injustice, and she still has her own attacks from Deadly Alliance/Armageddon.
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The ones not making it from MK9 are the ones who were killed by Sindel and the ones who are in Ed Boon's "Dead Pool".
All in all, I don't really know.
All in all, I don't really know.
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Likely most of the MK4-deception characters -.- which is a damn shame cause yet again ill still say Fujin, bo rai cho, Havik, Shinnok, Reiko, Tanya, and frost deserve to return at least...!
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blackcyborg Wrote:
Here's how I see things, in terms of who likely won't be returning:
Chameleon
Khameleon
Jarek
Kai
Meat
Blaze
Mavado
Hsu Hao
Mokap
Moloch
Darrius
Dairou
Kobra
Kira
Shujinko
Daegon
Taven
Onaga
Those are the ones I really don't see, ever being playable again. A cameo, maybe, but I think these characters were the bottom of the barrel, all things considered. Not that they were all awful, but with over 50 to choose from, and an apparent focus on new characters being introduced as well, I don't see these ones coming back. I think they realize which characters had potential, which didn't, which were popular, which weren't, what can be done better by introducing someone new instead, and how to go forward from there. Knocking out 18 characters, is a nice way to trim the fat of the roster.
I don't see the events of Deadly Alliance through Armageddon being relived through the new timeline, otherwise what's the point? So a lot of these characters are going to get the axe, either relegated to a mere cameo in story or someone's bio/ending, or just completely forgotten about.
Here's how I see things, in terms of who likely won't be returning:
Chameleon
Khameleon
Jarek
Kai
Meat
Blaze
Mavado
Hsu Hao
Mokap
Moloch
Darrius
Dairou
Kobra
Kira
Shujinko
Daegon
Taven
Onaga
Those are the ones I really don't see, ever being playable again. A cameo, maybe, but I think these characters were the bottom of the barrel, all things considered. Not that they were all awful, but with over 50 to choose from, and an apparent focus on new characters being introduced as well, I don't see these ones coming back. I think they realize which characters had potential, which didn't, which were popular, which weren't, what can be done better by introducing someone new instead, and how to go forward from there. Knocking out 18 characters, is a nice way to trim the fat of the roster.
I don't see the events of Deadly Alliance through Armageddon being relived through the new timeline, otherwise what's the point? So a lot of these characters are going to get the axe, either relegated to a mere cameo in story or someone's bio/ending, or just completely forgotten about.
I think that
Shujinko
Daegon
Taven
Onaga
Will be in Story Mode but I can really see Smaller fast Blaze being a hidden fight.
I think we could add to your list of not returning
Shang Tsung
Montaro
Kintaro
Sheeva not popular and moved to Australia
Stryker
Kabal
I think Quan Chi will resurrect for his Army
Shao Kahn
Kitana
Jade
And 1 of the following (If not they will be DLC)
Sindel
Nightwolf
Jax
Smoke
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Icebaby Wrote:
You really had a problem with what I said to someone that's not you?
You really had a problem with what I said to someone that's not you?
Not really. Did I make it seem like I had a problem or something? If that's the case I certainly didn't. I just found it funny how you totally shut him down when some of the things he said kinda make sense whether you like it or not. Yeah every character can be fleshed out and I'd love that to happpen, but we all know some of them never will be.
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I'm pretty defensive when it comes to Khameleon. People act like it would be impossible to give her original moves, a great re-design, and a bigger purpose to go along with her already interesting story. I never understood why people say they don't want her back. She's probably Reptile's only chance at being something OTHER than a fucking minion. But I'm not stupid, I know I have more of a chance of marrying a billionaire tan Khammy does of returning lol
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projectzero00 Wrote:
I was talking about the rest of the post tbh. Not the first part lol
I was talking about the rest of the post tbh. Not the first part lol
I didn't see any bit of hostility in her post besides the "You're boring" remark. (._.)
And that's nothing really.
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