Urien isn't goofy at all.

exactly. Street Fighter has always had a distinct anime/cartoony feel which made characters like Gill and Balrog (the boxer) fit in.

Funniest shit I have ever seen in my life.

Gotta commend Capcom on how quickly they revealed their DLC line-up tho (and it apparently being pretty good).

Granted I know zip about Street Fighter so I'm just spouting off the general opinions I've heard thus far. If I'm wrong, oh well. lol I tried.

Capcom intends to support SF5 for 5 years with DLC. So chances are if one f your favourites isn't in this DLC pack then chances are he or she will be in an upcoming wave.

The DLC for SFV IS really good. We've got Balrog and Guile (SF2) who aren't far below Ryu and Ken as far as popularity goes, then we've got three SF3 characters (Ibuki, Alex, Urien) of which Alex and Urien are extremely popular and fans have been asking for them since the IV series, and finally Juri. One of the newcomers of the SFIV series. Definitely one of my favorites. The only complaint I have is that Akuma won't be in the game until 2017

Capcom is doing it all right. Solid enough and well balanced roster complete with mainstay staples, obscure characters fans haven't seen in years, and a few new fighters. Then they have six fan favorites planned for DLC and has announced them already to cut to the chase and build more hype. Best part about it is if you don't want to buy the DLC then you can simply earn the DLC characters via in game currency and then they have plans to keep supporting this game throughout the next few years with added waves of DLC fighters and what not(So no Super Ultra Fantastic Supremo Street Fighter V)

Capcom has their shit together. MKX should've had long-term plans like this. I'm jealous.

I never had problems with all the additions they added for sf4. If you remember how sf4 looked like and played you were really happy with ssf4. the same goes for every update pack they released so far. It included new characters, stages, balance patches, graphicall improvemets and input improvements with almost every new update they did.

SF4 came out on the consoles in 2009, till couple of months ago the game was still hype.

Imagine if NRS did similar updates for MK9. Adding 2 new characters, balance patches, stages with each update pack they released. MK9 would easily survive as long as sf4 did. It's respecting what you have made, and improving it a bit by bit. That's the mentality i miss with NRS.

Sometimes i still wish they suported MK9 more, as i really love that game. Some characters like Noob, Jade, Nightwolf could easily use some updates to be better characters.

Im still hoping we get an MK9 update for the PS4 and Xboxone. with balance, input and online patches.

MK9 definitely could've been supported for a LONG time. But MKX is already past its prime and it hasn't even been a full year. Neatherealm Studios doesn't have any plans or roadmaps- they just feel their way in the dark. What Capcom has planned for SFV is what WB/NRS should've had planned for MKX. But I imagine its a different mindset. Capcom believes in extending the lifespan of a game, they add to it, keep it alive for years- NRS on the other hand is just focused on knocking out the game, tossing out a few DLC characters (with over half being cash cow guests) and then that's it- leave fans hanging for the next 4 years.

Imagine if NRS would've had a fucking four year plan for MKX while still pumping out Injustice 2 in-between.

Year One: Revenants - Sindel, Kabal, Smoke & Nightwolf.
Year Two: Civil War - Reiko, Tanya, Rain & Baraka.
Year Three: Allies - Li Mei, Bo' Rai Cho, Fujin & Cyrax
Year Four: Nemesis - Shang Tsung, Tremor, Frost & Sektor

I'd be satisfied for the rest of my days with a DLC line-up like that for the first four years. lol

Yea, thing with MK9 is that it had everything we wanted. Atleast in terms of characters and stages. It was trilogy all over again. So much potential, just no support from NRS. Lot of guys in the tournaments scene rather play MK9 over MKx if it just fixed the OP characters and balanced the game.

Financial wise, it is more remunerative to release a new game every "N" number of years (usually two, but now the trend is every 4 years, due to Injustice) that a single game updated for a time span of 5 years.

Capcom's strategy has never changed. It was its habit to release a game and its updated version every six/twelve months. The only difference is, that over time, the average SF fan grew sick and tired to buy incomplete games and be forced to upgrade to the newest version.
SF IV, despite being a huge hit, was heavily cricied for this.

With Capcom on the brink of going out of business, they are desperately trying to appeal the hardcore fanbase, which might be less remunerative in the short term, but it's always a win/win situation in the long term.

Now, I wish NRS would understand that, without being raptured by the sirens of easy money with Freddy, Alien, Jason etc. This strategy, in the long term, is deemed to failure.
One day or the other the casual will find new interests and grow tired of "guests",the hardcore game never wanted them in the first place, so they risk to release a succesful game with low sales DLC.

Speaking as a supporter or NRS I'd be sorry if they will fail with the next kombat pack/game in 2019. On the other hand, learning it the hard way might be useful for Ed Boon and WB.

Alien and Predator were more than enough as guests in this game.
You could save Jason and Leatherface for MK XI.




The only logical thing to do right now is to wait and see how the KP2 fares when released.
I, for one, won't buy anything non-MK related and I'm still in doubt about Triborg.
I hope other people will do the same, if they are against guests.

Hmmmm, yes, I suppose one fighting just with his underwear on could be taken seriously.

There is nothing wrong with SF characters. Atleast they get threatened better than any MK character after MK4.

Look at Necalli, Oni, Evil ryu, Akuma. Don't they look bad ass to you? SF has so much more swag than MKx. It's not even comparible. SF is martial arts acurate, MK was but isnt anymore. NRS are a bunch of sad boy emo's.

Yeah his design could've been better but I mean as a character there's nothing goofy about him. Same thing with a number of other characters.

But on the subject of Capcom's DLC choices, yes they're kicking NRS in the balls right now. Alex and Urien alone would've been enough since they are easily the most requested third strike characters. But then they added Juri, everyone's favorite SF4 character as well. They listened to fans and it shows very well.

If MKX had DLC plans like that then I wouldn't mind giving NRS even more time after the initial four years to work on MK11 because I would be so satisfied with MKX and the gradual added fighters over those years that I probably wouldn't be ready to move on so fast haha.

But when you knock out the game, release a few DLC characters with over half being guests and then leave fans standing with their thumbs up their asses for the next four years with nothing else to look forward to- you're going to have a bitter crowd.

One of the biggest things NRS needs to focus on is long term planning and extending the life of a game- continually keeping interest high, being on a fast and tight schedule (None of this going months in silence bullshit- I understand there will be quiet moments, but 3-4 months without nothing at a time?) and having a roadmap of what characters you want to release as DLC, how many, and when ect. All of that should be kept in mind during development.

No more feeling your way in the dark and "well, we'll see how this goes" bs- When you make MK11, don't just make another MK game and then move on, make an MK game that's meant to live past its release date.

No, They aren't bad ass at all to me, but I am one of those guys who hates animes/mangas, except for Berserk and Fist of the North Star, which I adhore.


However I am not going to judge the characters themselves, 'cause it's a matter of tastes and is too much of a personal choice to be spoke of objectively.

I used to love Street Fighter 2 even more than MK, at first.
But then I grew tired with SF because it's a franchise withour any real evolution.
SF3 was my favourite and was treated like shit by its own fan base. The reaction changed over the years, but there was a time when some people felt ashamed to like that game.


SFV it's always the same lame shit with the same artistic style, trying to recycle a lot of stuff from SF4, but just with a better graphics.

On a personal level I think that character design wise, MK is far away superior that. SF, ar least comparing their respective golden ages.

F.A.N.G. and other newcomers like the brazilian capoeira girl are lame. Mokap level lame.
Ain't kidding on this one.

Again, Capcom is on the brink of bankruptcy. It is logical for them to listening to their fan requests. And it is pure gold if you're a SF fan.

Onthe other hand, Capcom is paying dearly for all the previous half assed re-releases, like SF 4....no, I meant Super SF4....do you live in a cave? ULTRA SF IV.

What a dinosaur! There's ULTRA SUPER SPECIAL EDITION

NO, WAIT...ULTRA SUPER SPECIAL LIMITED EDITION ARCADE HD REMASTER DLCS INDLUDED.


This strategy brought Capcom on its knees begging Sony to help them develop and fund SF5.


On the other hand, NRS is milking their fans. But to me it looks like the fans themselves are glad to be milked out, even the ones who complain.

A better solution, for now would be boycotting Leatherface and Alien.

I don't give a fuck why Capcom is listening to their fans, I just care that they are. The fact is Capcom is listening while NRS is giving me the finger.

And I'll tell ya something, people can dog Capcom for the re-releases of SF4 but I guarantee people wanted that shit for MK. I know I did. I wanted MK to have SOME kind of plan to support the game.

It's the same thing now. SFV has a dedicated plan for YEARS, MKX has support to last one year, and it's on to the next game. What do you think people want more? Continued support or a few characters and patches and the game is done?

I've always liked SF characters more than MK characters. They just appeal to me so much more.

Exactly. But I guess some fans don't mind twiddling their thumbs for four years in between games.

Warner Bros is not in the same situation of Capcom. Period.
There's a reason behind this single and undebatable fact.
Capcom' strategy is a lot more core user friendly, but I don't know how much successful it will be.
WB/NRS's strategy may blink an eye on the casuals more than the core audience, but as of december 2015 is undoubtful more productive and successful.

Nobody really cares for the fans, they just want your money.
Capcom is 1000000000000 levels below WB/NRS in this area atm. SF5 looks more like a poker "all-in", if you got what I've meant. It really is their desperation move. It could mean their salvation or their failure.

Again, I don't care why or what circumstances made Capcom be better about treating fans. I just appreciate the fact that they are. If anything NRS would want to please their fans for helping MK so successful. Not shove cash grabs in our face and expect us to buy it because they put it in the game.

I'm not saying we're owed anything, because fighting games are a business. But you should throw a dog a bone every once and a while.

Capcom threw their fans a fucking banquet of bones. The how and why is irrelevant.

Yes, it's relevant because that's the reason why WB/NRS is using their current DLC policy.
They can afford to lose your money and grab the casuals instead.
Capcom, on the other hand, absolutely needs the money of both casuals and hardcore players.

Right now, Ed Boon is free to do whatever he wants with the franchise, he could also say "fuck you all, old timers" to us and trying to reach a NEXT GENERATION OF FANS.

It seems like Ed Boon doesn't want anything to do with the day one fans like you and me, the Tobias nostalgics and is trying to appeal the current 12-18 years old generation.
This strategy will fail because no 18 years old boy knows who the hell Leatherface is.
Unless there are some virgin 40 years olds out there, ready to spend their money to a character of a movie that showed him a naked woman for the first time 20 years ago.

The current situation of MK X is too different from Street Fighter. You can't compare their DLC policy. And I speak as one who is very against guests. But I'm using some marketing logic, which is more constructive than dreaming about a wishful-thought made, ideal DLC roster.

We are on the same side on this one, but I am trying to reach a sensed conclution, you, on the other hand, are simply stating how cool Capcom's strategy is.

I'm not debating anything here. I'm simply saying Capcom listened to their fans and NRS opted for cashgrabs. It's that simple. The circumstances don't change the facts. If NRS wanted to they could've pleased more fans but they didn't.

And yeah I'm praising Capcom for making good decisions. What of it? They're kicking ass and I hope NRS takes notes for their next project.