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03/12/2015 10:14 PM (UTC)
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Point is- Yes, that leak could have been correct. Or it could have just been a close estimate and we could still have a few more characters left to join.

What is seeming "likely" doesn't matter, there's room for speculation as nothing has been officially confirmed as of yet.

We can't state what will be until we actually know for ourselves. Which will be soon. Until then- Let people speculate and stop throwing that supposed "leaked" list at people like scripture.
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I feel so alone, gonna end up a Big ole pile of them bones.

03/12/2015 10:19 PM (UTC)
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Sad that none of my boys might be in but... seeing Smoke progress as a npc is great to see. Until the roster is finalized I'll hold my breath.
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Why couldn't this ending have happened?

03/12/2015 10:21 PM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:
I don't get it, wasn't Smoke always an enenra? Wasn't that like his whole story in this timeline. He was sacrificed as a child to a demon and then came back as an enenra? So it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for him to say "Smoke is dead, I am an enenra!". You were always an enenra you idiot. You just kept using your human form. Guess the writing for MKX will be more of a pain than the writing in MK9 was.


Probably its a repeat of the its first awakening [when he was sacrificed as a boy] where he had amnesia afterwards.
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03/12/2015 10:24 PM (UTC)
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This is a weird one for me, I really like the first four new characters revealed. I could definitely live without the other power rangers on Cassie's team.

One argument is that MK9 did a lot of good for characters gameplay wise and because of that they could be retired for a game or two, but I scream wasted oppurtunity.

Why do characters like Smoke, Sektor, Cyrax and Kabal need to be relegated to DLC? They're just a few of my favorites for an example, but they have so much story to be told.

I get it, business model is supply and demand. People want those sorts of characters so they'll buy them additionally. It's a shame that there story will be truncated.
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03/12/2015 10:24 PM (UTC)
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JohnnyCage5 Wrote:
Shadaloo Wrote:
Lokheit Wrote:
So... Smoke with a new costume talking about what MK9 ending revealed about him and... is he in a 1 vs 1 fight or is a quick time event?

So far we have at least Fujin, Rain and Smoke with new costumes and not included in the each day more fake (or at least only partial to play safe because it was just a prediction) roster.


From the whole description it sounds like Johnny beats him offscreen before turning to help with another fight.

Mah boi's DLC, I just know it. grin


Maybe Cage helps out Smoke in the long run. They had a lot of interaction during the MK2 era of story mode, and lined up next to each other before the Sindel fight.


Maybe Smoke will join the Special Forces instead of Cyrax this time [while Cyrax joins the White Lotus Society like his 9 ending] It would be good for Smoke to get away from Sub-Zero if he is revived.
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03/12/2015 10:27 PM (UTC)
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Human-Smoke-4-ever Wrote:
sharefrock Wrote:
I don't get it, wasn't Smoke always an enenra? Wasn't that like his whole story in this timeline. He was sacrificed as a child to a demon and then came back as an enenra? So it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for him to say "Smoke is dead, I am an enenra!". You were always an enenra you idiot. You just kept using your human form. Guess the writing for MKX will be more of a pain than the writing in MK9 was.


Probably its a repeat of the its first awakening [when he was sacrificed as a boy] where he had amnesia afterwards.


This is exactly it. It makes complete sense, because he went through his entire life with those memories locked away. His MK9 ending states that he returned to a human form after the slaughter in his childhood, "remembering nothing". He lived his whole life believing himself to be human.
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03/12/2015 10:28 PM (UTC)
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I'd love to see Cage's gregarious nature used for team accruing.
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03/12/2015 10:30 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Point is- Yes, that leak could have been correct. Or it could have just been a close estimate and we could still have a few more characters left to join.

What is seeming "likely" doesn't matter, there's room for speculation as nothing has been officially confirmed as of yet.

We can't state what will be until we actually know for ourselves. Which will be soon. Until then- Let people speculate.


Speculate, hope, discuss, do whatever you like. That's what we're here for. I'm just telling you the unfortunate reality is, the leaked list is final. That's not a prediction, it's a spoiler. I don't like it either, but it sucks to see everyone grasp at every little sign, when it always leads to the same outcome...disappointment and/or anger.

That's not me trying to kill anyone's hopes, excitement, or raining on the parade... I just think all signs point to a specific direction, and NRS has said or done nothing to push this belief of more characters beyond that.

If I'm wrong, by all means I'll be the first to admit, take ownership, and be the happiest man in doing so knowing we got more than what's on the leaked roster. I'd love to get Fujin, Smoke, Reiko, Rain etc. But it's clear what's happening here.

I'm choosing the safer, smarter option for my own personal happiness and satisfaction. Hell, I have $10 riding on it, in a bet with Temp and Django.

As for a source? Anybody that's in the actual know, isn't going to come out and give themselves away and shoot themselves in the foot like that. So I wouldn't expect a confirmation 'til the game itself is leaked. But the evidence is strongly favoring one side, and that evidence coincides with the leaked list. If there were more, why wouldn't anyone who actually knows something, NRS member, tester, or someone with an in-source, say otherwise? And no, I don't buy into that dude on twitter who used click bait answers that contradicted themselves with uncertainty, and has faded into obscurity as a legitimate reason to give hope.
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03/12/2015 10:32 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Point is- Yes, that leak could have been correct. Or it could have just been a close estimate and we could still have a few more characters left to join.

What is seeming "likely" doesn't matter, there's room for speculation as nothing has been officially confirmed as of yet.

We can't state what will be until we actually know for ourselves. Which will be soon. Until then- Let people speculate and stop throwing that supposed "leaked" list at people like scripture.


Don't bother explaining, Most people on MKO are either Black or White. they don't understand that there is a grey area. They want either a Yes or a No. That's how simple minded they are.

They leak thus far seems true, New costumes don't mean instant confirmation, as of now. The leak seems to be on point, So it seems to be true.

Can it be wrong and just all speculation? Yes 100% it can.

Is there any proof that it is? Well so far everything in it has been true, so it's more real than your fan fantasy of characters making it in.

I would be SOOO HAPPY if it's wrong, but as of no there is no proof it's wrong and no proof it's right, but it's like the Kuai Liang situation, Everything but everybody including me still thought there is a chance it might be Bi-Han.

So this list could be true or false, All Ahnka said was that it seems to be real. And it does.

Human-Smoke-4-ever Wrote:
sharefrock Wrote:
I don't get it, wasn't Smoke always an enenra? Wasn't that like his whole story in this timeline. He was sacrificed as a child to a demon and then came back as an enenra? So it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for him to say "Smoke is dead, I am an enenra!". You were always an enenra you idiot. You just kept using your human form. Guess the writing for MKX will be more of a pain than the writing in MK9 was.


Probably its a repeat of the its first awakening [when he was sacrificed as a boy] where he had amnesia afterwards.


Could be, Is it possible that him dying restored his memory somehow? But if he is an enenra and he knows it, why is he still under Quan Chi's control?

Can't he just say, fuck that and vanishes? Unless, and I hope I am wrong. He becomes evil and not under the control of Quan Chi.
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03/12/2015 10:32 PM (UTC)
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I still think the statue on the tower that everyone thought was Lui Kang is Fujin. The two match up perfectly.
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03/12/2015 10:33 PM (UTC)
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blackcyborg Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Point is- Yes, that leak could have been correct. Or it could have just been a close estimate and we could still have a few more characters left to join.

What is seeming "likely" doesn't matter, there's room for speculation as nothing has been officially confirmed as of yet.

We can't state what will be until we actually know for ourselves. Which will be soon. Until then- Let people speculate.


Speculate, hope, discuss, do whatever you like. That's what we're here for. I'm just telling you the unfortunate reality is, the leaked list is final. That's not a prediction, it's a spoiler. I don't like it either, but it sucks to see everyone grasp at every little sign, when it always leads to the same outcome...disappointment and/or anger.

That's not me trying to kill anyone's hopes, excitement, or raining on the parade... I just think all signs point to a specific direction, and NRS has said or done nothing to push this belief of more characters beyond that.

If I'm wrong, by all means I'll be the first to admit, take ownership, and be the happiest man in doing so knowing we got more than what's on the leaked roster. I'd love to get Fujin, Smoke, Reiko, Rain etc. But it's clear what's happening here.

I'm choosing the safer, smarter option for my own personal happiness and satisfaction. Hell, I have $10 riding on it, in a bet with Temp and Django.

As for a source? Anybody that's in the actual know, isn't going to come out and give themselves away and shoot themselves in the foot like that. So I wouldn't expect a confirmation 'til the game itself is leaked. But the evidence is strongly favoring one side, and that evidence coincides with the leaked list. If there were more, why wouldn't anyone who actually knows something, NRS member, tester, or someone with an in-source, say otherwise? And no, I don't buy into that dude on twitter who used click bait answers that contradicted themselves with uncertainty, and has faded into obscurity as a legitimate reason to give hope.



Mmmk, bye now!
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03/12/2015 10:36 PM (UTC)
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blackcyborg Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Point is- Yes, that leak could have been correct. Or it could have just been a close estimate and we could still have a few more characters left to join.

What is seeming "likely" doesn't matter, there's room for speculation as nothing has been officially confirmed as of yet.

We can't state what will be until we actually know for ourselves. Which will be soon. Until then- Let people speculate.


Speculate, hope, discuss, do whatever you like. That's what we're here for. I'm just telling you the unfortunate reality is, the leaked list is final. That's not a prediction, it's a spoiler. I don't like it either, but it sucks to see everyone grasp at every little sign, when it always leads to the same outcome...disappointment and/or anger.

That's not me trying to kill anyone's hopes, excitement, or raining on the parade... I just think all signs point to a specific direction, and NRS has said or done nothing to push this belief of more characters beyond that.

If I'm wrong, by all means I'll be the first to admit, take ownership, and be the happiest man in doing so knowing we got more than what's on the leaked roster. I'd love to get Fujin, Smoke, Reiko, Rain etc. But it's clear what's happening here.

I'm choosing the safer, smarter option for my own personal happiness and satisfaction. Hell, I have $10 riding on it, in a bet with Temp and Django.

As for a source? Anybody that's in the actual know, isn't going to come out and give themselves away and shoot themselves in the foot like that. So I wouldn't expect a confirmation 'til the game itself is leaked. But the evidence is strongly favoring one side, and that evidence coincides with the leaked list. If there were more, why wouldn't anyone who actually knows something, NRS member, tester, or someone with an in-source, say otherwise? And no, I don't buy into that dude on twitter who used click bait answers that contradicted themselves with uncertainty, and has faded into obscurity as a legitimate reason to give hope.




You really need to learn the difference between something that may seem likely to you in light of available evidence, and something actually confirmed as fact.
Unless you have an inside source confirming this for you, you really need to ease up on the certainty with which you speak about this because it's coming off a little arrogant and rude.
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03/12/2015 10:37 PM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:

Could be, Is it possible that him dying restored his memory somehow? But if he is an enenra and he knows it, why is he still under Quan Chi's control?

Can't he just say, fuck that and vanishes? Unless, and I hope I am wrong. He becomes evil and not under the control of Quan Chi.


Probably the opposite. Dying and descending to the Netherealm probably opened his eyes to what he was for the first time, but his demonic nature (remember, they call the Enenra 'a demon' in his ending) likely makes it that much easier for a sorcer like Quan Chi to control him.

Quan Chi has been shown as a manipulator and creator of various creatures in the Netherealm; he's been shown to have influence over Oni demons, wraiths, and specters of all kinds. Enenra are simply one more species he can easily exert his power over.
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03/12/2015 10:39 PM (UTC)
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FerraTorr Wrote:
blackcyborg Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Point is- Yes, that leak could have been correct. Or it could have just been a close estimate and we could still have a few more characters left to join.

What is seeming "likely" doesn't matter, there's room for speculation as nothing has been officially confirmed as of yet.

We can't state what will be until we actually know for ourselves. Which will be soon. Until then- Let people speculate.


Speculate, hope, discuss, do whatever you like. That's what we're here for. I'm just telling you the unfortunate reality is, the leaked list is final. That's not a prediction, it's a spoiler. I don't like it either, but it sucks to see everyone grasp at every little sign, when it always leads to the same outcome...disappointment and/or anger.

That's not me trying to kill anyone's hopes, excitement, or raining on the parade... I just think all signs point to a specific direction, and NRS has said or done nothing to push this belief of more characters beyond that.

If I'm wrong, by all means I'll be the first to admit, take ownership, and be the happiest man in doing so knowing we got more than what's on the leaked roster. I'd love to get Fujin, Smoke, Reiko, Rain etc. But it's clear what's happening here.

I'm choosing the safer, smarter option for my own personal happiness and satisfaction. Hell, I have $10 riding on it, in a bet with Temp and Django.

As for a source? Anybody that's in the actual know, isn't going to come out and give themselves away and shoot themselves in the foot like that. So I wouldn't expect a confirmation 'til the game itself is leaked. But the evidence is strongly favoring one side, and that evidence coincides with the leaked list. If there were more, why wouldn't anyone who actually knows something, NRS member, tester, or someone with an in-source, say otherwise? And no, I don't buy into that dude on twitter who used click bait answers that contradicted themselves with uncertainty, and has faded into obscurity as a legitimate reason to give hope.




You really need to learn the difference between something that may seem likely to you in light of available evidence, and something actually confirmed as fact.

Unless you have an inside source confirming this for you, you really need to ease up on the certainty with which you speak about this because it's coming off a little arrogant and rude.


Dude is a wet blanket. He jumps down everyone else's throats for disagreeing and have a different opinion but yet he's perfectly fine with speaking with 100% certainty because in his mind he's right and that's all there is to it.

Not worth putting your energy into him or others like him.
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03/12/2015 10:43 PM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Point is- Yes, that leak could have been correct. Or it could have just been a close estimate and we could still have a few more characters left to join.

What is seeming "likely" doesn't matter, there's room for speculation as nothing has been officially confirmed as of yet.

We can't state what will be until we actually know for ourselves. Which will be soon. Until then- Let people speculate and stop throwing that supposed "leaked" list at people like scripture.


Don't bother explaining, Most people on MKO are either Black or White. they don't understand that there is a grey area. They want either a Yes or a No. That's how simple minded they are.






This.


Also, I'm no delusional fanboy. I felt fairly certain the leaked roster was it, it was final and that it's all we are getting just a couple weeks back. Things I have seen over the past few days(like what is going on in the comic) have changed my mind. I think there is a decent chance now that the roster that was leaked wasn't finalized.

Unless folks have some sort of inside source they need to stop acting like others are somehow stupid or delusional for not having made up their mind firmly one way or another. This is a gray area still at this point.
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03/12/2015 10:45 PM (UTC)
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Shadaloo Wrote:
sharefrock Wrote:

Could be, Is it possible that him dying restored his memory somehow? But if he is an enenra and he knows it, why is he still under Quan Chi's control?

Can't he just say, fuck that and vanishes? Unless, and I hope I am wrong. He becomes evil and not under the control of Quan Chi.


Probably the opposite. Dying and descending to the Netherealm probably opened his eyes to what he was for the first time, but his demonic nature (remember, they call the Enenra 'a demon' in his ending) likely makes it that much easier for a sorcer like Quan Chi to control him.

Quan Chi has been shown as a manipulator and creator of various creatures in the Netherealm; he's been shown to have influence over Oni demons, wraiths, and specters of all kinds. Enenra are simply one more species he can easily exert his power over.


Yeah that makes sense, But I hoped we would see more of Human Smoke helping Earthrealm. Don't get me wrong, I want to see more of his Enenra side, But not at the expense of him going full evil. True he didn't do much in MK9 but I just liked him as human fighting with the Earthrealm warriors.

I guess we will see tomorrow but if he still has a mask then he is still a ninja as opposed to an enenra demon, I think. Unless he has that weird mask from MKD.
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03/12/2015 10:45 PM (UTC)
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blackcyborg Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Point is- Yes, that leak could have been correct. Or it could have just been a close estimate and we could still have a few more characters left to join.

What is seeming "likely" doesn't matter, there's room for speculation as nothing has been officially confirmed as of yet.

We can't state what will be until we actually know for ourselves. Which will be soon. Until then- Let people speculate.


Speculate, hope, discuss, do whatever you like. That's what we're here for. I'm just telling you the unfortunate reality is, the leaked list is final. That's not a prediction, it's a spoiler. I don't like it either, but it sucks to see everyone grasp at every little sign, when it always leads to the same outcome...disappointment and/or anger.

That's not me trying to kill anyone's hopes, excitement, or raining on the parade... I just think all signs point to a specific direction, and NRS has said or done nothing to push this belief of more characters beyond that.

If I'm wrong, by all means I'll be the first to admit, take ownership, and be the happiest man in doing so knowing we got more than what's on the leaked roster. I'd love to get Fujin, Smoke, Reiko, Rain etc. But it's clear what's happening here.

I'm choosing the safer, smarter option for my own personal happiness and satisfaction. Hell, I have $10 riding on it, in a bet with Temp and Django.

As for a source? Anybody that's in the actual know, isn't going to come out and give themselves away and shoot themselves in the foot like that. So I wouldn't expect a confirmation 'til the game itself is leaked. But the evidence is strongly favoring one side, and that evidence coincides with the leaked list. If there were more, why wouldn't anyone who actually knows something, NRS member, tester, or someone with an in-source, say otherwise? And no, I don't buy into that dude on twitter who used click bait answers that contradicted themselves with uncertainty, and has faded into obscurity as a legitimate reason to give hope.


While I get where you're coming from and agree that list is accurate, there are still several things nagging at me. Those being;

- Secret characters. There's tons of shit in this game so is it beyond the realm of possibility that there are hidden fighters like last go around? It's possible.

- Sub-boss/Boss. We still have no clue who these are and if they are playable/unplayable.

- The more unlikely option of character unlockables via cross platforming with the mobile game. They didn't come out and deny it in an interview I read today, they kept it vague which leaves it 50/50.

I 100% without a doubt think that is the roster we have, but the question isn't whether or not its accurate... the REAL question is whether there's secretive shit we'll have to unlock and in what capacity that secret stuff is. I think that's the more logical question we should be asking ourselves here instead of debating the initial roster. There is also still the Tower; these characters in Story have updated costumes, perhaps they could make them fight-able opponents since Towers will be changing daily?
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03/12/2015 10:50 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
FerraTorr Wrote:
blackcyborg Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Point is- Yes, that leak could have been correct. Or it could have just been a close estimate and we could still have a few more characters left to join.

What is seeming "likely" doesn't matter, there's room for speculation as nothing has been officially confirmed as of yet.

We can't state what will be until we actually know for ourselves. Which will be soon. Until then- Let people speculate.


Speculate, hope, discuss, do whatever you like. That's what we're here for. I'm just telling you the unfortunate reality is, the leaked list is final. That's not a prediction, it's a spoiler. I don't like it either, but it sucks to see everyone grasp at every little sign, when it always leads to the same outcome...disappointment and/or anger.

That's not me trying to kill anyone's hopes, excitement, or raining on the parade... I just think all signs point to a specific direction, and NRS has said or done nothing to push this belief of more characters beyond that.

If I'm wrong, by all means I'll be the first to admit, take ownership, and be the happiest man in doing so knowing we got more than what's on the leaked roster. I'd love to get Fujin, Smoke, Reiko, Rain etc. But it's clear what's happening here.

I'm choosing the safer, smarter option for my own personal happiness and satisfaction. Hell, I have $10 riding on it, in a bet with Temp and Django.

As for a source? Anybody that's in the actual know, isn't going to come out and give themselves away and shoot themselves in the foot like that. So I wouldn't expect a confirmation 'til the game itself is leaked. But the evidence is strongly favoring one side, and that evidence coincides with the leaked list. If there were more, why wouldn't anyone who actually knows something, NRS member, tester, or someone with an in-source, say otherwise? And no, I don't buy into that dude on twitter who used click bait answers that contradicted themselves with uncertainty, and has faded into obscurity as a legitimate reason to give hope.




You really need to learn the difference between something that may seem likely to you in light of available evidence, and something actually confirmed as fact.

Unless you have an inside source confirming this for you, you really need to ease up on the certainty with which you speak about this because it's coming off a little arrogant and rude.


Dude is a wet blanket. He jumps down everyone else's throats for disagreeing and have a different opinion but yet he's perfectly fine with speaking with 100% certainty because in his mind he's right and that's all there is to it.

Not worth putting your energy into him or others like him.


How the fuck is blackcyborg jumping down anyone's throat? Nothing he has said has been hostile at all. You're the one taking everything personally.
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03/12/2015 10:52 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Mmmk, bye now!


Hey, don't take things so personal all the time. We've been over this. We're all entitled to our opinions, and can express them freely. I didn't disrespect anyone, so what's with the passive snarky reaction? You seemed 100% sure of Rain's inclusion, to the point of bragging etc. Why can't one be just as certain about something else? Why is it a one way street?

FerraTorr Wrote:
You really need to learn the difference between something that may seem likely to you in light of available evidence, and something actually confirmed as fact.

Unless you have an inside source confirming this for you, you really need to ease up on the certainty with which you speak about this because it's coming off a little arrogant and rude.


Oh believe me, I know the difference. I was having fun with that response. I'm a joker. I make jokes, act silly, and don't take things too seriously. Was not intending for that to be rude. In all seriousness...

Of course it's not a fact, until it's confirmed.

If I had an inside source, would it matter? Would I come right out and say it? Would you even believe me if I did say it? If I don't have physical proof to back it up if I did say it? Ok, here: I've spoken to someone with a legit source. They seem to believe the leaked roster is legit.

Regardless of any of that, a source that would likely have the inside knowledge due to his connections with other testers...leaked info. Believe it, or not, is up to you. But that's the closest thing we have to a legitimate source we have to go by as of this moment, so I don't see why we'd error on the opposing side of that? That's all. Especially when disappointment is the result if it turns out correct.
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03/12/2015 10:52 PM (UTC)
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You get ambushed by all these revenants...yet the only one you actualy get to fight, is the one on the leaked list, Jax...i think that's telling...

Better to expect just those 25 charcacters, and be pleasently surprised if there's more!
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03/12/2015 10:52 PM (UTC)
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SubMan799 Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
FerraTorr Wrote:
blackcyborg Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Point is- Yes, that leak could have been correct. Or it could have just been a close estimate and we could still have a few more characters left to join.

What is seeming "likely" doesn't matter, there's room for speculation as nothing has been officially confirmed as of yet.

We can't state what will be until we actually know for ourselves. Which will be soon. Until then- Let people speculate.


Speculate, hope, discuss, do whatever you like. That's what we're here for. I'm just telling you the unfortunate reality is, the leaked list is final. That's not a prediction, it's a spoiler. I don't like it either, but it sucks to see everyone grasp at every little sign, when it always leads to the same outcome...disappointment and/or anger.

That's not me trying to kill anyone's hopes, excitement, or raining on the parade... I just think all signs point to a specific direction, and NRS has said or done nothing to push this belief of more characters beyond that.

If I'm wrong, by all means I'll be the first to admit, take ownership, and be the happiest man in doing so knowing we got more than what's on the leaked roster. I'd love to get Fujin, Smoke, Reiko, Rain etc. But it's clear what's happening here.

I'm choosing the safer, smarter option for my own personal happiness and satisfaction. Hell, I have $10 riding on it, in a bet with Temp and Django.

As for a source? Anybody that's in the actual know, isn't going to come out and give themselves away and shoot themselves in the foot like that. So I wouldn't expect a confirmation 'til the game itself is leaked. But the evidence is strongly favoring one side, and that evidence coincides with the leaked list. If there were more, why wouldn't anyone who actually knows something, NRS member, tester, or someone with an in-source, say otherwise? And no, I don't buy into that dude on twitter who used click bait answers that contradicted themselves with uncertainty, and has faded into obscurity as a legitimate reason to give hope.




You really need to learn the difference between something that may seem likely to you in light of available evidence, and something actually confirmed as fact.

Unless you have an inside source confirming this for you, you really need to ease up on the certainty with which you speak about this because it's coming off a little arrogant and rude.


Dude is a wet blanket. He jumps down everyone else's throats for disagreeing and have a different opinion but yet he's perfectly fine with speaking with 100% certainty because in his mind he's right and that's all there is to it.

Not worth putting your energy into him or others like him.


How the fuck is blackcyborg jumping down anyone's throat? Nothing he has said has been hostile at all. You're the one taking everything personally.


I don't think he is just talking about this thread specifically, I know Cyborg might be your friend from a long time but the guy isn't that great. I argued with him a couple of times, The guy is as thick as a stone wall and thinks like a 13 year old would... Trust me I know.
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03/12/2015 10:53 PM (UTC)
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Easy cheetahs. I think it's pretty simple to figure out where his opinions come from. Lamenting on how said ideas were presented is useless, not the conversation.
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03/12/2015 10:54 PM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
blackcyborg Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Point is- Yes, that leak could have been correct. Or it could have just been a close estimate and we could still have a few more characters left to join.

What is seeming "likely" doesn't matter, there's room for speculation as nothing has been officially confirmed as of yet.

We can't state what will be until we actually know for ourselves. Which will be soon. Until then- Let people speculate.


Speculate, hope, discuss, do whatever you like. That's what we're here for. I'm just telling you the unfortunate reality is, the leaked list is final. That's not a prediction, it's a spoiler. I don't like it either, but it sucks to see everyone grasp at every little sign, when it always leads to the same outcome...disappointment and/or anger.

That's not me trying to kill anyone's hopes, excitement, or raining on the parade... I just think all signs point to a specific direction, and NRS has said or done nothing to push this belief of more characters beyond that.

If I'm wrong, by all means I'll be the first to admit, take ownership, and be the happiest man in doing so knowing we got more than what's on the leaked roster. I'd love to get Fujin, Smoke, Reiko, Rain etc. But it's clear what's happening here.

I'm choosing the safer, smarter option for my own personal happiness and satisfaction. Hell, I have $10 riding on it, in a bet with Temp and Django.

As for a source? Anybody that's in the actual know, isn't going to come out and give themselves away and shoot themselves in the foot like that. So I wouldn't expect a confirmation 'til the game itself is leaked. But the evidence is strongly favoring one side, and that evidence coincides with the leaked list. If there were more, why wouldn't anyone who actually knows something, NRS member, tester, or someone with an in-source, say otherwise? And no, I don't buy into that dude on twitter who used click bait answers that contradicted themselves with uncertainty, and has faded into obscurity as a legitimate reason to give hope.


While I get where you're coming from and agree that list is accurate, there are still several things nagging at me. Those being;

- Secret characters. There's tons of shit in this game so is it beyond the realm of possibility that there are hidden fighters like last go around? It's possible.

- Sub-boss/Boss. We still have no clue who these are and if they are playable/unplayable.

- The more unlikely option of character unlockables via cross platforming with the mobile game. They didn't come out and deny it in an interview I read today, they kept it vague which leaves it 50/50.

I 100% without a doubt think that is the roster we have, but the question isn't whether or not its accurate... the REAL question is whether there's secretive shit we'll have to unlock and in what capacity that secret stuff is. I think that's the more logical question we should be asking ourselves here instead of debating the initial roster. There is also still the Tower; these characters in Story have updated costumes, perhaps they could make them fight-able opponents since Towers will be changing daily?


This; and the fact Boon & co said the roster was "30-ish characters" and the starting roster is at "least as big as MK9's if not a little bigger, and obviously DLC will follow". I don't doubt the "leaked roster" (fan prediction) was spot on and will prove true for every character mentioned on it but I'd trust the word of the game makers more saying it's at least as big as MK9's than I will the word of a person not much different to any other fan who has no inside source.

By the way, nice find Kenshi; thanks for the info.
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03/12/2015 10:56 PM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:

Yeah that makes sense, But I hoped we would see more of Human Smoke helping Earthrealm. Don't get me wrong, I want to see more of his Enenra side, But not at the expense of him going full evil. True he didn't do much in MK9 but I just liked him as human fighting with the Earthrealm warriors.

I guess we will see tomorrow but if he still has a mask then he is still a ninja as opposed to an enenra demon, I think. Unless he has that weird mask from MKD.


I totally get it. The thing about the MK9 ending is that it was really ambiguous over what Smoke thought of himself with all of these memories unlocked. We won't know for certain how much of his behavior is his own until he's freed from Quan Chi's control, if that ever happens.

A lot of people have become used to thinking of that huge demon in his ending as his Enenra form; but they also describe him as 'shapeless' - he can appear how he wishes to appear. He can very well be both ninja-esque an an enenra at the same time.
Also: can't there be like a single "leaked roster speculation" thread so everyone can go sling shit at each other there while I just revel in the fact Smoke's been developed? thx
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03/12/2015 10:58 PM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:
I don't think he is just talking about this thread specifically, I know he might be your friend from a long time but the guy isn't that great. I argued with him a couple of times, The guy is as thick as a stone wall and thinks like a 13 year old would... Trust me I know.


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