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Sub-Zero_7th
08/16/2007 12:53 AM (UTC)
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Kangfan91 Wrote:
I agree with normthedude.
Call me a Kang fanatic, but I think it's time for Liu Kang to return to life. Like he said, Kang's the main character! It would be like killing off Ryu in Street Fighter.
As for anyone who claims, "You can play as Kang in zombie form!", all I can say is that while you can fight as Kang, it's only Kang's BODY. The character himself is what needs to come back. Forget his corpse. We need the actual Kang that has been there since the first game!

In MK8, I think it would be sweet if the game built up to Kang's return.
Liu Kang vs Zombie Kang would make the most awesome boss fight!
Liu Kang vs Corrupted Raiden would be cool as a Sub-Boss battle!smile


Why bother? Bringing him back to life and having him continue on as the main hero only cheapens his story as well as MK's overall story. Let someone else take up the mantle for a change.
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08/24/2007 07:42 PM (UTC)
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I know EVERYONE is going to jump on me, but right now, there ISN'T much that HAS to be done to the STORY.

All MK8 had to do to be good is:


Kill some characters forever( like Kobra and Kira), joke characters like meat and mokap dont have to come back. Have REAL characters come back in MK8.

Have an even amount of Old and New characters.

Have a decent story.

Bring back Kang and other fan favorites for MK9.

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I think that Liu Kang should return...in Mk 9...along with scorpion. sub-zero and all the other "Good" MK Characters. Then they could show the Noobs from MK8 how its done...
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I agree, but I want Scorp and Subby in the next.

I only want a decent story, I'm not demanding it to be great.
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Antichthon
08/25/2007 02:11 AM (UTC)
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well i want liu kang to be in the next game.he is dead you know and i think that no one can`t kill him anymore.and he is the champion of mortal kombat,and protecter of Earthrealm.tonguegrin
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08/25/2007 02:54 AM (UTC)
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Antichthon Wrote:
well i want liu kang to be in the next game.he is dead you know and i think that no one can`t kill him anymore.and he is the champion of mortal kombat,and protecter of Earthrealm.tonguegrin


Actually, his corporeal form is likely not immortal, so it can be destroyed. His spirit is not able to be in the living world forever, and he will eventually pass onto the afterlife. That's good since Liu Kang has had his run.
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Int3rmission
08/25/2007 07:53 AM (UTC)
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I think Liu Kang should have a long break from the series.

I think Taven should be the main hero now.
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lieutenant_blade
08/25/2007 09:40 AM (UTC)
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I think he should move on to the heavens after the current Raiden/Liu Kang storyline is settled. I mean, the dude has been the champion of Mortal Kombat and protector of Earthrealm for many years. He deserved a break for all the good work he's done.

A shrine has already been built in Wu Shi Academy to honor him (in Kung Lao's MKDA ending). I think it's time to lay him to rest and move on.

But should he returned (I have a feeling he might, being the main character and all), I would just want him to make a small appearance, a cameo of some sort. Maybe he could appear with the Great Kung Lao from the heavens to be spirit guides, offering words of wisdom to not only the good warriors who survived Armageddon but also to the new generation of fighters.

Speaking of the Great Kung Lao, I also feel it's time he make his official appearance.
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08/26/2007 08:48 AM (UTC)
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There are not many (if any) characters in MK who have both interesting storyline and really useful moves and skills. For example, I've always been kicking damn ass with Sektor in MK3 but what about his storyline? Got automated, started hunting Sub Zero, then hunting Cyrax, then if I'm not wrong became the leader of Tekunin? Hunting, hunting, hunting... bullshit ! Same bland, unchanged idea over the decade...! The same thing about Scorpion. His "revenge" thing about Sub Zero (and the unexplained fact that he continued chasing Sub Zero even after he found out that Quan Chi murdered his family !?!)...
Liu Kang has probably the best moves of all warriors, they are easy to perform and have become quite memorable. But, I simply got bored with him, not because some cheap trousers and red headband are his entire outfit, but becuase of his unchanged storyline. It would be a healthy and fair change if the title of Grand Champion was passed on some other young warrior. Liu Kang, as many have already mentioned, will be remembered as a hero and the former Champion, so he won't be forgotten no matter what you do with him. Otherwise, Liu would remain the champion for all times and all the future warriors would fight in vain like cretins over and over again becuase the result of the tournament would always be the same: Liu Kang would become the Champion.
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08/26/2007 02:19 PM (UTC)
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shaggysorceror Wrote:
There are not many (if any) characters in MK who have both interesting storyline and really useful moves and skills. For example, I've always been kicking damn ass with Sektor in MK3 but what about his storyline? Got automated, started hunting Sub Zero, then hunting Cyrax, then if I'm not wrong became the leader of Tekunin? Hunting, hunting, hunting... bullshit ! Same bland, unchanged idea over the decade...! The same thing about Scorpion. His "revenge" thing about Sub Zero (and the unexplained fact that he continued chasing Sub Zero even after he found out that Quan Chi murdered his family !?!)...
Liu Kang has probably the best moves of all warriors, they are easy to perform and have become quite memorable. But, I simply got bored with him, not because some cheap trousers and red headband are his entire outfit, but becuase of his unchanged storyline. It would be a healthy and fair change if the title of Grand Champion was passed on some other young warrior. Liu Kang, as many have already mentioned, will be remembered as a hero and the former Champion, so he won't be forgotten no matter what you do with him. Otherwise, Liu would remain the champion for all times and all the future warriors would fight in vain like cretins over and over again becuase the result of the tournament would always be the same: Liu Kang would become the Champion.


Actually, Sektor's story starts with him getting automated, with him hunting Sub-Zero. Then, he's fighting many vicious battles in Outworld and has his programming corrupted because of it. He starts to believe that humans are inferior, kills the Lin Kuei Grandmaster, and tries to take the Dragon Medallion so that he can reshape the clan in his image. However, Sub-Zero intervenes, kicks Sektor's ass and makes him flee. Sektor goes to Japan and forms his clan of cyborg assassins called the Tekunin. He causes trouble in the world and Sonya tries to stop him. Sektor is trying to get information on Taven and Sektor also made a deal with Jax. So actually, his story has progressed.

With Scorpion's retconned story, basically, he fought the Older Sub-Zero and was on the losing edge. When Shang Tsung's Island was collapsing, Scorpion entered the portal to Outworld with his allies, Shang Tsung, Reptile, Kano, Goro, and Baraka. Later on, Scorpion got his revenge and killed the Older Sub-Zero. After that, he learns that Sub-Zero has returned, so he stalks him in Outworld. When he finally gets to Sub-Zero, he sees Liu Kang and Kung Lao and escapes to the Netherrealm, trying to lure Sub-Zero to follow him. In the Netherrealm, Liu Kang and Kung Lao defeat Scorpion.

In MK3, Shao Kahn tries to steal souls from the Netherrealm but fails. However, opening a way to the Netherrealm enables Scorpion to escape, becoming a wild card in the war for Earth. Scorpion either finds Sub-Zero and is beaten by him or he never finds him at all. In MK4, Scorpion is once again after Sub-Zero, and this time, he finally beats him. However, Quan Chi reveals that he is the true murderer of Scorpion's family and clan and tries to send Scorpion back to the Netherrealm.

Scorpion takes Quan Chi with him and has been hunting him down for years. He eventually meets Shujinko, who helps him look for Quan Chi. Once Quan Chi is spotted, Scorpion chases after him. Quan Chi gets Moloch and Drahmin to fend off Scorpion while he escapes from the Netherrealm. Scorpion finds his way into Outworld and fights Quan Chi in the Acid Bath, only to get knocked into a moat of acid. Scorpion eventually comes back and hastily goes to Shang Tsung's Palace to find Quan Chi, but he is ambushed by Drahmin and Moloch, beaten and thrown into the Soulnado.

Scorpion escapes into the Void only to be confronted by the Elder Gods. He makes a deal in which he agrees to be their Champion and to kill Onaga if they resurrect his clan afterwards. He half-asses the job, only helping Shujinko kill Onaga and not dealing the final blow. Because of this, the Elder Gods strip him of his title and resurrect his clan as undead warriors. Scorpion decides to take his anger out on Taven and Daegon, wanting to destroy them in hopes of getting revenge of the Elder Gods for betraying him.

But yeah, even though you misunderstood Scorpion's story, it's almost always been about revenge and nothing much else, which is sad.

Liu Kang's story has changed, but it changed significantly from when he first died.
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08/26/2007 06:53 PM (UTC)
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It guess it's kinda stupid he has always been motivated by revenge, but what are we gonna do?

Maybe he won't be motivated by revenge in MK8.
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08/26/2007 07:09 PM (UTC)
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I've expressed my opinion about this matter many times here on this site.

I think Liu Kang has had his time. His era has passed, and he should pass to the afterlife, never to return. I mean, i LOVED it when in the MKDA intro, i saw Liu Kang dying, it was wonderfull. Don't take me wrong, i like him, it's just that his unfair and brutal death makes the story of MK a lot more serious, and shocking.

It was a revolution, that definitely reinforced the barrier that exists between the MK universe / style, and the rest of the stereotyped-main stream story inspired beat'm ups. I mean, in all other fightng games, the main hero never dies, he is the handsome, full of style, ass kicking great warrior, that would never be killed.

You can't imagine the Tekken story killing Jin Kazama, or Ryu Hoshi of Street Fighter being unfairly murdered. This (along with the dark look, and fatalities) is what makes MK a completely different (and much better), franchise, that doesn't stop surprising the fans.

Besides, i was way pissed off when i found out that Liu Kang returned in MK Deception, even in zombie version, it is soo bad for the storyline.
It was the cheapest of all the cheap child molesting mother fucking cheap story events. Midway made a fuckin HUGE mistake by bringing Liu back.

I hope they keep him dead for ever, in future games. But if they want to honour the memory of the greatest warrior of Earthrealm, they should keep his Tomb arena, displaying his four MK Champion medalions.
This way, he will always be remembered in a more fisical "inside game" way.
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08/27/2007 04:05 AM (UTC)
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i dont understand somehtign liu kang is grand champion but then i dont remember him kicking goros ass goro was never a final boss cmon
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08/27/2007 12:16 PM (UTC)
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PumkinKing93 Wrote:
i dont understand somehtign liu kang is grand champion but then i dont remember him kicking goros ass goro was never a final boss cmon


Liu Kang defeated Goro in MK1, and by deafeating him, he became Grand Champion of the Mortal Kombat tournament, then Shang Tsung chalenged Liu Kang, because he was the tournament organizer, and if outworld won the tournament, Shao Kahn would be allowed to conquer Earthrealm, so Shang Tsung could not let the earth warriors win, and so, he entered the tournament after Goro's defeat.

Liu Kang also "kicked Goro's ass" in MK4, because Goro entered the tournament in order to take revenge on Liu Kang.

Goro remainde undefeated by 500 years (since the death of the Great Kung Lao until the events of MK1), so, after destroying so many warriors over centuries of combat, and then being defeated by a mortal (Liu Kang), Goro tried to defeat Liu Kang in mk4, only to have his ass kicked once again.
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08/27/2007 01:05 PM (UTC)
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Actually, MK4 isn't a tournament and Liu Kang never fought Goro during that time. Goro was going to try to have a rematch against Liu Kang, but then there was the whole ordeal with the Shokan/Centaur thing.
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08/27/2007 01:10 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Actually, MK4 isn't a tournament and Liu Kang never fought Goro during that time. Goro was going to try to have a rematch against Liu Kang, but then there was the whole ordeal with the Shokan/Centaur thing.


hmm thanks.

I hate mk4, and so i'm not certain about its storyline.
but hey, Shinnok only attacked the Elder Gods, right?
His attack did not reach Earthrealm... or did it?
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08/27/2007 08:04 PM (UTC)
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Nightcrow Wrote:
Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Actually, MK4 isn't a tournament and Liu Kang never fought Goro during that time. Goro was going to try to have a rematch against Liu Kang, but then there was the whole ordeal with the Shokan/Centaur thing.


hmm thanks.

I hate mk4, and so i'm not certain about its storyline.
but hey, Shinnok only attacked the Elder Gods, right?
His attack did not reach Earthrealm... or did it?


No, he didn't go to Earthrealm. He attacked the Elder Gods and the battles also took place in Edenia.
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08/27/2007 08:54 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Nightcrow Wrote:
Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Actually, MK4 isn't a tournament and Liu Kang never fought Goro during that time. Goro was going to try to have a rematch against Liu Kang, but then there was the whole ordeal with the Shokan/Centaur thing.


hmm thanks.

I hate mk4, and so i'm not certain about its storyline.
but hey, Shinnok only attacked the Elder Gods, right?
His attack did not reach Earthrealm... or did it?


No, he didn't go to Earthrealm. He attacked the Elder Gods and the battles also took place in Edenia.


So, when did Edenia separated from Outworld?
During the end of MK3?
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08/28/2007 12:19 AM (UTC)
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Nightcrow Wrote:
Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Nightcrow Wrote:
Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Actually, MK4 isn't a tournament and Liu Kang never fought Goro during that time. Goro was going to try to have a rematch against Liu Kang, but then there was the whole ordeal with the Shokan/Centaur thing.


hmm thanks.

I hate mk4, and so i'm not certain about its storyline.
but hey, Shinnok only attacked the Elder Gods, right?
His attack did not reach Earthrealm... or did it?


No, he didn't go to Earthrealm. He attacked the Elder Gods and the battles also took place in Edenia.


So, when did Edenia separated from Outworld?
During the end of MK3?


Yes. Shao Kahn had tried to get it back after MK4.
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08/28/2007 02:08 AM (UTC)
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Well, he should just die. I mean, he dies then come's back as a zombie.


WTF? Taven should be the new hero.

He killed blaze. He's stronger then Liu Kang, i think.


I'm not 100% sure he is, but imo, he is.


Taven, Fujin, & Shujinko should protect the realms imo.
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Smoke_Alert094
09/07/2007 10:30 PM (UTC)
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LIU SHOULD NOT RETURN EVER AGAIN! HE'S DEAD! IT WAS BOGUS WHEN HE RETURNED AS A ZOMBIE!WTF? BRING IN CHOW KANG(LET THE KANG ERA MOVE ON)
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09/07/2007 10:46 PM (UTC)
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Smoke_Alert094 Wrote:
LIU SHOULD NOT RETURN EVER AGAIN! HE'S DEAD! IT WAS BOGUS WHEN HE RETURNED AS A ZOMBIE!WTF? BRING IN CHOW KANG(LET THE KANG ERA MOVE ON)


Don't post in all caps as it's very rude and makes it seem as if you're shouting at people.
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Antichthon
09/08/2007 06:12 PM (UTC)
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ya,but if liu kang is not in earthrealm and his soul in............something,then how is earthrealm going to live longer.because if liu kang is gone and shang tsung kills raiden and all the people thats lives in earthrealm will be dead.confused
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09/08/2007 06:45 PM (UTC)
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Right fuck it, every character should return to mk8 so they can finally get a decent ending in a (hopefully) decent game. No one deserved the events of Armageddon.....
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09/08/2007 07:55 PM (UTC)
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Antichthon Wrote:
ya,but if liu kang is not in earthrealm and his soul in............something,then how is earthrealm going to live longer.because if liu kang is gone and shang tsung kills raiden and all the people thats lives in earthrealm will be dead.confused


It's simple. Earthrealm has its other defenders, such as Kung Lao, Sonya, Sub-Zero, etc. Shang Tsung killing Raiden? What are you talking about?

Kang43 Wrote:
Right fuck it, every character should return to mk8 so they can finally get a decent ending in a (hopefully) decent game. No one deserved the events of Armageddon.....


MK8 is going to be the start of a new generation in terms of story, so bringing back all of the current characters would be awful.
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Antichthon
09/08/2007 09:30 PM (UTC)
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well,there is a problem.some people want Liu Kang back.Some people don`t.i think i got something.first liu kang kills shang tsung in the tournament,and Earthrealm will be safe for the next tournament.then he maybe have to kill Shao Kahn,or someone to save Earthrealm again.then it repeat again.ok i`m lost???
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09/09/2007 11:50 AM (UTC)
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Antichthon Wrote:ok i`m lost???


Pretty much.

Liu Kang = dead, buried and rotting in his tomb for ALL FUCKIN ETERNITY.
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