No mk9 just reboot.
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posted01/09/2010 01:54 AM (UTC)by
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Guldarheel9
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10/03/2009 02:58 PM (UTC)
I've heard that there will be no mk9 just a reboot of the old mk games. We the fans want mortal kombat 9 and not a reboot game or not another cross over game. Please comment on this. furious
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Icebaby
01/01/2010 05:50 PM (UTC)
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Uhh... I'm a fan, but I'm certainly not up for grabs that it should just be an "MK" game... I don't personally mind if it's a reboot.
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Sadistic_Freak
01/01/2010 06:18 PM (UTC)
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Whatever it will be, it better be good. Happy New Year 2010 to you too.
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Zentile
01/01/2010 07:04 PM (UTC)
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I really, really want to see a reboot. I'm very tired of this continuity, everything's already been done, there's no point, IMO, in making another chapter in this story.

You've had the mortal kombat tournament, a rogue tournament, a million invasions, a million rules broken over and over again, Gods have died, every character has died and come back to life, every small character has been brought back, and the ultimate chaotic battle has already happened in Armageddon. That's it. I don't see the point in going further with the current reality. A reboot, on the other hand, would be awesome and feel fresh if it's done well.
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Sadistic_Freak
01/01/2010 08:22 PM (UTC)
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Also, whatever will happen with this game, I jope it'll be brutal a games such as God of War 3, Thrill Kill, Wu Tang, MKSM, and Manhunt all in one.
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Adam Ronin
01/01/2010 08:45 PM (UTC)
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I think the only logical direction would be a reboot. I would love that. Back to when the story was actually GOOD. But...I digress. I honestly don't think were getting another MK game. If we do, it will be more crossover, teen rated garbage.

I am pessimism at it's finest.
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jpetrunak
01/02/2010 02:41 AM (UTC)
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I think just having them change the art direction back to digitalized actors ( scans over 3d models ala Smackdown vs Raw ) would be a huge leap in the right direction.

MK really lost its identity when it went to 3d using the plastic action figure look. There is no reason with next gen technology that you couldn't make an MK game in the style or the first three but in 3D. I'm just really tired of the Unreal Engine 3 greased up He-Man look of every video game. Lets take a character, add about 150 pounds of muscle on him, make him look like he fucking soaking wet in Vaseline all the time, and put 478 different lighting effects on him.

Just make them look like real people again.
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Sadistic_Freak
01/02/2010 05:11 AM (UTC)
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jpetrunak Wrote:
I think just having them change the art direction back to digitalized actors ( scans over 3d models ala Smackdown vs Raw ) would be a huge leap in the right direction.

MK really lost its identity when it went to 3d using the plastic action figure look. There is no reason with next gen technology that you couldn't make an MK game in the style or the first three but in 3D. I'm just really tired of the Unreal Engine 3 greased up He-Man look of every video game. Lets take a character, add about 150 pounds of muscle on him, make him look like he fucking soaking wet in Vaseline all the time, and put 478 different lighting effects on him.

Just make them look like real people again.


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LycaniLLusion
01/02/2010 07:50 AM (UTC)
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jpetrunak Wrote:
I think just having them change the art direction back to digitalized actors ( scans over 3d models ala Smackdown vs Raw ) would be a huge leap in the right direction.

MK really lost its identity when it went to 3d using the plastic action figure look. There is no reason with next gen technology that you couldn't make an MK game in the style or the first three but in 3D. I'm just really tired of the Unreal Engine 3 greased up He-Man look of every video game. Lets take a character, add about 150 pounds of muscle on him, make him look like he fucking soaking wet in Vaseline all the time, and put 478 different lighting effects on him.

Just make them look like real people again.


@jpetrunak...I also agree with you like Sadistic_Freak on this. As for the reboot idea it is not what I would like to happen but I am not completely against it. The thing is with a reboot do people think the story is going to change or do you imagine it to be viewed from another perspective because it being a reboot means the same story...now if it were re-imagined that means its completely different. I am wondering if people are getting that confused and mixed up. I say a prequel would be a lot better than a reboot...other than that just clean up the story we already have and move on. A re-imagination of MK would be like starting the franchise over again so I am against that.
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Icebaby
01/02/2010 07:56 AM (UTC)
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If they do a reboot, it would be cool to see it in some kind of new perspective. What if Liu was never the victor and it was someone else... What if Shang Tsung conquered the tournament? Some ideas, but you get the drift.

Reboots aren't always as bad as many would tend to think.
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01/02/2010 08:01 AM (UTC)
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Hmmmm I have been thinking alot about the next MK.Will a reboot destroy it or deploy it into outstanding achievement land?
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fire_fatality
01/02/2010 08:15 AM (UTC)
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They don't need to reboot the series cause its developed such character over the years. They released Shaolin Monks which was basically Mortal Kombat 1.5 since it took place between one and two, with some inaccurate discrepancy's from one and two. If they would remake the orginal game only had Liu Kang, Raiden, Sonya, Kano, Johnny Cage, Sub-Zero, Scorpion, Reptile, Shang Tsung, and Goro. Then if they changed the storyline form the original its just not Mortal Kombat.
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LycaniLLusion
01/02/2010 09:49 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
If they do a reboot, it would be cool to see it in some kind of new perspective. What if Liu was never the victor and it was someone else... What if Shang Tsung conquered the tournament? Some ideas, but you get the drift.

Reboots aren't always as bad as many would tend to think.


I get what your saying here but in some ways that is no different than how things go with "what if endings" its just not at the end of the game it IS the game. Like stated by fire_fatality in the previous post...if the original story/characters was/were redone it would not be Mortal Kombat anymore it would be a Mortal Kombat fantasy/fiction.
It would also divide fans and cause a lot more complications to which story was the actual one (canon,as most put it).
It is bad enough they opened up MK to a younger audience just to say... "hey guess what kids...you can not play the actual franchise because its going to be going back to its mature rated roots so take this watered down crossover before we make the real deal". That is a tease and a bit unfair to the kids and one reason MK vs DC should not have been made but clearly it was already obvious Midway was doing it because of the crisis situation and it was a last resort attempt at recovering the company which failed. I think they just need to follow the original plan before DC got involved and give us the game we were expected to get in the first place.
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Guldarheel9
01/02/2010 02:41 PM (UTC)
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I don't think we need a reboot game we need mk9 and I think we should all tell ed boon no on reboot and yes on mk9.
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Zentile
01/02/2010 11:27 PM (UTC)
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jpetrunak Wrote:

Just make them look like real people again.


AMEN. I hate the action figure look myself as well. I love the designs in MK4 because they still looked like real people back then.
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QueenSindel(TheBitch)
01/03/2010 09:33 PM (UTC)
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A reboot would be the pussy way out.

All these nerds rooting for a reboot as if it would guarantee anything.

I don't like the idea of everything created being thrown in the garbage like it means nothing. So does that mean this "reboot" story should not be taken seriously either cuz some other reboot later on could simply dispose of it?

It's stupid, lame, lazy, and unnecessary.

The story should continue but it should arc into uncharted territory like Deadly Alliance did.

The point of MKA was to end the current story of that time, so anything they give us is gonna be new material anyway for that matter. Plus it'll be the first "real" MK game in next-gen, so they'll pretty much have to.
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Zentile
01/03/2010 09:43 PM (UTC)
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QueenSindel(TheBitch) Wrote:
A reboot would be the pussy way out.

All these nerds rooting for a reboot as if it would guarantee anything.

I don't like the idea of everything created being thrown in the garbage like it means nothing. So does that mean this "reboot" story should not be taken seriously either cuz some other reboot later on could simply dispose of it?

It's stupid, lame, lazy, and unnecessary.


Not used to seeing you actually act like a bitch.

Let me tell you what's really stupid, lame, lazy and unnecessary: Killing off characters all the time and bringing them back. Not to mention all the other dumb shit that's happened at this point in the storyline. I want a fresh start because it does guarantee one thing: When I think about Johnny Cage, I can think about the character I like without remembering that he's died a hundred times (or not, or who even knows?).

MK has a lot of great stuff going for it, it has a ton of potential. I'd just like to see it get done right. I don't like the idea of everything created getting thrown into the garbage either, and that's why I'm not happy with the current continuity anymore. They keep doing that shit over and over again, so I'd prefer it if they just admitted they fucked up a ton of times, and start anew altogether. Only this time, do it right and don't fuck up.
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QueenSindel(TheBitch)
01/03/2010 11:30 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:

Let me tell you what's really stupid, lame, lazy and unnecessary: Killing off characters all the time and bringing them back.


How will a reboot ensure this doesn't happen again?

It could just as easily feature recurring deaths and dumb retcons like the current storyline.

All it will guarantee is a fresh start, but they don't have to can everything to deliver that effect. DA is proof of that.

Even if you did get your little reboot, it could very well turn out to be as shitty as MK4. You guys swear that it would save the series, yet the only thing that supports that claim is your delusion.
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Zentile
01/03/2010 11:46 PM (UTC)
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QueenSindel(TheBitch) Wrote:
Zentile Wrote:

Let me tell you what's really stupid, lame, lazy and unnecessary: Killing off characters all the time and bringing them back.


How will a reboot ensure this doesn't happen again?

It could just as easily feature recurring deaths and dumb retcons like the current storyline.

All it will guarantee is a fresh start, but they don't have to can everything to deliver that effect. DA is proof of that.

Even if you did get your little reboot, it could very well turn out to be as shitty as MK4. You guys swear that it would save the series, yet the only thing that supports that claim is your delusion.


Yes, it could just as well feature recurring deaths and dumb retcons. But it could also NOT feature them; something that the current continuity can no longer escape. Even if they never do stupid retcons again, they've already happened so it's already fucked. That's my point.

What delusion? What nerds? Why don't you get your head out of your ass for a second, nobody's calling you names or saying you're delusional. We're just disagreeing here, so calm down.
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QueenSindel(TheBitch)
01/04/2010 12:22 AM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:

Yes, it could just as well feature recurring deaths and dumb retcons. But it could also NOT feature them; something that the current continuity can no longer escape. Even if they never do stupid retcons again, they've already happened so it's already fucked. That's my point.


I don't think that matters enough to justify an entire reboot unless you can't stop living in the past. Luckily I think most fans are more concerned with MK's future.

Fine, if you think that way.

I just want the next game to be great, hopefully without acting like almost 20 years of history never happened.
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Zentile
01/04/2010 02:45 AM (UTC)
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QueenSindel(TheBitch) Wrote:
Zentile Wrote:

Yes, it could just as well feature recurring deaths and dumb retcons. But it could also NOT feature them; something that the current continuity can no longer escape. Even if they never do stupid retcons again, they've already happened so it's already fucked. That's my point.


I don't think that matters enough to justify an entire reboot unless you can't stop living in the past. Luckily I think most fans are more concerned with MK's future.

Fine, if you think that way.

I just want the next game to be great, hopefully without acting like almost 20 years of history never happened.


It's not about living in the past. The PRESENT character of Johnny Cage did die a bunch of times. Even if he stops dying his character was still the shits for years, that's part of the story and it's part of the character. Unless of course they retcon him again which is what would be really lazy.

I'm obviously concerned with MK's future. Just because I want a reboot it means I'm not concerned with the future of the franchise? Not getting that, at all.

And I never said the almost past 20 years of history should be ignored. Not at all. Have you seen the Ultimate Marvel universe? You think those books ignore the standard Marvel universe? There's references ALL the time, and it's still the same characters, a lot of similar events, except it's all more simple and easy to understand. I'd love to see MK go through something like that, not just for myself but to attract new fans and gamers.
New people playing Armageddon have no clue about what's going on. Shao Kahn is just a small time character to new fans, and I think that's wrong.

There's a whole lot of young people playing video games who weren't playing MK ten years ago. If MK wants to make money and be successful, it needs to hit this very big target, and it would do that effectively if it allowed the new fans to live through what we did. To have the mystery of the MK mythos slowly grow and expand. Those were some good times.

Just like the original Mortal Kombat game, I want to see a small number of characters but something fresh. MKA had all the characters ever but it was just the same thing yet again.
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QueenSindel(TheBitch)
01/04/2010 06:32 AM (UTC)
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So you want a reboot that's pretty much the same as the original story except without the flaws?

An MK1 patch is not what we need, believe me.

And on Shao Kahn, if you think he should be the mysterious outworld boss all over again solely to please new fans, then your low on ideas.

Wanting a do-over is even worse than ignoring 20 years of history. At least by going in a totally new direction there would be novelty and uncharted territory, but you want the same thing all over again, only remixed without flaws.

Instead of wanting a new story, you just want the old one fixed. That really is about living in the past.

MK has done enough with that, what with returning MK1 and MK2 arenas, tunes, and characters just for the sake of returning. We don't need an overblown version of that. Everyone's already pissed by the returning oldness cuz it's hindering MK's evolution, and you're saying the next game should be all about going back to that.

Whatever though, I mean you might get what you want for all I know. Who knows what they have in store for us. Maybe this "Ultimate Mortal Kombat Universe" idea will surface, though I seriously don't think it would be the wisest decision.
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LycaniLLusion
01/04/2010 07:23 AM (UTC)
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@Zentile...That would not be the same game as we played growing up period. I would rather take a remix with online support on the PSN or Live store instead of just remaking it with a new engine. That would be a waste honestly...just use your imagination or something or hope create a character comes back with option to create your old characters the way you want.

As for recurring deaths...you speak of Cage specifically but you forget a character dies every how many minutes with the use of fatalities...this game is based on recurring deaths and is purely unrealistic anyway so why make a big deal of it.

I understand what you want but that to me is pointless because IF (in which I hope) create a character comes back...you could at least have the nostalgic feeling as long as they have the options to make or use ALL original character costumes...also another way to resolve the issue is to have alternate outfits be originals. Basically there are resolves to peoples wishes its just no one wants to compromise things.
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massdeath
01/06/2010 03:11 AM (UTC)
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I too would be down for a reboot. I'd like to kick it old school MK style with an all new continuity. I'd also like to see some new characters.
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01/06/2010 06:52 PM (UTC)
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I think that my real issue here is the idea of reboot versus remake:

When Ed first talked about an MK reboot before MK vs DC became a reality, he talked about scrapping the fighting system, scrapping virtually all of the character roster, ending the old era (which is what Armageddon was supposed to do, if I'm not mistaken), starting a new story and doing basically a new fighting game with the MK universe.

The basic implication was that Sub Zero and Scorpion would be back, but there were no guarantees otherwise... On anything.

Now we're talking about a reboot as basically just taking the old stuff and putting a modern coat of polish on it? Is that what the first poster was implying?

To me, that's NOT a reboot. That's a remake. Taking something old and modernizing it.

Sure, they could have something like a MK 1 & 2, where you start out with the original 7 and get to unlock Reptile, Shang Tsung, Goro and Ermac. Then you transition in to MK2 through the story, and you get the next 10 (since you've already unlocked Shang Tsung and Reptile), then you get to unlock Shao Khan, Kintaro, Jade, Smoke and Noob.

Maybe you keep it 2D, but if it's a remake, chances are you modernize it with the best 3D graphics around. Maybe you don't put 3D movement in (think Street Fighter 4), but you make everything as realistic as possible.

Maybe you can unlock new costumes, new moves for each character, new winning poses, maybe each character will get an extra fatality that you can also unlock.

Sounds pretty cool?

Yeah, it does, but I still don't want it, and to me, that's the BEST scenario for a remake that I can think up. What the MK team would decide to do could be a thousand times worse.

For me, and maybe you'll disagree Zentile, but I've already had my "wow" moments with MK1 and MK2. Back in the day when they came out, my jaw routinely dropped at the graphics, the gore, and simply how much fun I was having while playing those games.

Personally, I'd like to move forward, maybe even have that type of wow moment with a new MK game. MK vs DC had very solid graphics and was, at times, very fun to play. It still wasn't that close to perfect, but it showed me that the MK team was finally, after 4 or 5 games, actually starting to get what they can do in 3D.

Also, Armageddon just happened. I want to see the aftermath of that. I'd love to see the Shaolin reinstate the Mortal Kombat tournament. All of the portals are sealed and the vast majority of the characters are new. Maybe we get some cameos, maybe a few hidden, playable returnees, but a new story that's a little of the old and a lot of the new.

I'm not saying that this idea is incredibly new, but at least it's not going back to the well with the same old characters for the 9th consecutive time. We know what Jax can do, we know what Kitana can do, what Reiko can do, what Cage, and Liu Kang, and Jarek and every other MK character can do.

Let's see something that's deeply rooted in the MK mythos, but with new, more mysterious characters, a new darkness on the horizon. Armageddon just destroyed MK, let's see how they pick up the pieces...

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