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12/04/2015 05:28 AM (UTC)
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Because he's a cancer on the FGC? EDIT: I ain't even mad about the KP btw. I just... wish he'd find another line of work.
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12/04/2015 05:28 AM (UTC)
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Here's my opinion..

F*ck Alien. Sure the shit looks cool and all and the idea of Alien and Predator being able to rip each other apart is kind of awesome, but that shit is going to get old reallllllll quick. Wow

F*CK LEATHERFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welcome Bo Rai Cho! The OG in the game. He's a breath of fresh air. Can't wait to see how he plays!:D

If the Cyborg is Sektor, Cyrax AND Smoke in 3 separate variations I'm f*cking HYPED about that! F*ck yeah why not?? Anything short of that is lame. The design is CRAP though. Lazy and uninspired.

Bottom line, I'd take Authentic MK characters over guest characters ANY DAY. I wouldn't care if they said that Chuck Norris was gonna be in the game! As badass as that sounds, MK needs to be MK againsad
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Ion3008 Wrote:
Lol don't you worry about my panties buddy they're pretty comfy right now all things considered. Like I said at least I was cautious and didnt waste my money on the first pack so I'm feelin pretty good.

Spare you? Never. I'll give out whenever I feel like. Just like you can defend the trashpack whenever you feel like.


See, that's what I don't get. You're not going to waste money on something, so why bother to continue complaining about it?

I'll be happy defending a product I'm content, but I'm not going to do it constantly because then it just becomes annoying. Wouldn't constantly complaining about you being unhappy that the developers didn't cave to your needs start becoming tiresome?

That's all I meant with your panties, despite I really don't want to know how they are on you.

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It's not just the awards show, even all of the official accounts are practically ignoring the fact its been officially revealed. Even for the out of the blue reveal of KP1, they were WAY more on top of it than they are now. Either there is a giant miscommunication between the developers and their PR team or they are in crisis mode.


Hence why I've been repeating myself to just keep looking forward to tomorrow. I'm sure they have an answer or something else to bring to the table. It's why I'm not going ape shit yet, even though I doubt I will since I kinda like what they did here with their latest pack.


I have no faith they'll announce something else. Announce what is essentially a bandaid for this terrible pack. If they do..swell I'll take the bandaid (especially if its who I've been wanting for months) but still I have no faith in them doing that. And why should I? Its just stupid guest after stupid guest nowadays.

I keep complaining because it keeps being shitty. Just because I'm not putting money towards it doesn't mean I'm going to let it go.

And they can fuck off if they expect us to pay for The Pit if it comes with this.

Make no mistake I WANT to give NRS my money (I even put up with the netcode) but they're just not letting me.
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12/04/2015 05:31 AM (UTC)
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I don't understand why you seem to think fans need to just be happy with whatever they're given. The "hardcore" mk fanbase did not want more guests and half of the pack is guest characters.


What if I am a hardcore fan and wanted guest? Is my opinion shunned because I want a guest character in and is a hardcore fan?

Like I said, fuck what kind of fan you are. A fan is a fan. Does it really make a goddamn different how long you've been in a series for? To you guys, it seems like you either had to be playing in the 90s, or else you're a mediocre fan who's ruining everything for those who's been here since the beginning.

The reason why I'm acting like everyone should be at least happy that Netherrealm gave us something is because that's the point. They didn't have to give us anything. They could have easily flipped us fans off after them receiving death threats and harassment demanding so-and-so be in it. But they gave us stuff, whether it is what people wanted or not still. They gave all of us something. You can either be stubborn and still continue to hate it even after they show us gameplay of these four, or you could at least have an open mind and wait to see what they're like.

I'm fucking placing bets that at least a quarter of you will tune into watching Tyler and Derek showcase them and have some sort of interest. I guarantee that at least a quarter of you will turn.

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Wow, keep showing that "dedication" I'm sure it'll show new fans what they're getting themselves into.


New to internet fanbases, are you?


Far from it, smart alec.
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12/04/2015 05:33 AM (UTC)
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Total_Attraction Wrote:
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So if (and a big if) there ever was to be a future story pack, does Baraka-Xenomorph rule out Baraka's inclusion from it? Because why else would do that unless they had no intention of developing Baraka but wanted to appeal to those who like his style of gameplay?


If they can have Johnny Cage, Cassie Cage, and Sonya Blade in the game, all who many stated from the beginning were all going to play alike, I'm sure they can fit in Xenomorph and Baraka if they were to make him for a future pack.

Yes, the Xenomorph takes forum of its host and pretty much becomes it along with what it carries. I'm sure we've all seen the Alien trilogy (I refuse to accept Resurrection into it). But I would assume it would play more so towards the Xenomorph rather than Baraka.

I can't see it doing his classic blade spark by raising its leg in the air.


Yeah but Johnny, Sonya and Cassie don't really play alike. Not really. Like they literally gave the Alien who already has acid blood, big ass spiky tail, little mini toothy tongue thing, facehuggers and chestburster and is all teeth and claws anyway the one defining feature Baraka has. It just seems so extra. It reads more like they're saying 'Baraka's never coming, so we stuffed some Baraka into Alien.' I dunno. I'm definitely way more in to Alien than Leatherface.
Alien Resurrection was a masterpiece.
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12/04/2015 05:39 AM (UTC)
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Total_Attraction Wrote:
lanoitarnu Wrote:
I don't understand why you seem to think fans need to just be happy with whatever they're given. The "hardcore" mk fanbase did not want more guests and half of the pack is guest characters.


What if I am a hardcore fan and wanted guest? Is my opinion shunned because I want a guest character in and is a hardcore fan?

Like I said, fuck what kind of fan you are. A fan is a fan. Does it really make a goddamn different how long you've been in a series for? To you guys, it seems like you either had to be playing in the 90s, or else you're a mediocre fan who's ruining everything for those who's been here since the beginning.

The reason why I'm acting like everyone should be at least happy that Netherrealm gave us something is because that's the point. They didn't have to give us anything. They could have easily flipped us fans off after them receiving death threats and harassment demanding so-and-so be in it. But they gave us stuff, whether it is what people wanted or not still. They gave all of us something. You can either be stubborn and still continue to hate it even after they show us gameplay of these four, or you could at least have an open mind and wait to see what they're like.

I'm fucking placing bets that at least a quarter of you will tune into watching Tyler and Derek showcase them and have some sort of interest. I guarantee that at least a quarter of you will turn.

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Total_Attraction Wrote:
Wow, keep showing that "dedication" I'm sure it'll show new fans what they're getting themselves into.


New to internet fanbases, are you?


Far from it, smart alec.!Quote

I didn't mean the "hardcore" as how long people have been playing, more of just a non guest crowd. I'm semi happy with the pack for Bo and the Tri-borg thing. I definitely don't need to be happy just because they gave us something. Why would anyone be happy for something they don't want? It's not like video games are bare market, there is always other shit to spend time on. I wanted something that made me excited to get back into MKX, not kinda excited.
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12/04/2015 05:40 AM (UTC)
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I have no faith they'll announce something else. Announce what is essentially a bandaid for this terrible pack. If they do..swell I'll take the bandaid (especially if its who I've been wanting for months) but still I have no faith in them doing that. And why should I? Its just stupid guest after stupid guest nowadays.

I keep complaining because it keeps being shitty. Just because I'm not putting money towards it doesn't mean I'm going to let it go.

And they can fuck off if they expect us to pay for The Pit if it comes with this.

Make no mistake I WANT to give NRS my money (I even put up with the netcode) but they're just not letting me.


You not giving them money can start showing Netherrealm that people are unhappy over those who are endlessly attacking all of the developers' Twitter accounts.

I mean, if you are 100% unsatisfied and will continue refusing to buy their products, then do what you say and don't give them money. Them not getting the sales will show that they were in the wrong. I'm sure a few of the complaints made to them got to them and made them realize that this move was a risk that wasn't well-liked. But when you actually do take action and refuse to give them money is when they start getting the fucking answer.

So like I said, if you're that unhappy with their move, then don't bother getting their products anymore. Let them know you're pissed. And I am not being sarcastic with this if you think I am.
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12/04/2015 05:40 AM (UTC)
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I almost came home early to see this announcement :)
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12/04/2015 05:42 AM (UTC)
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people bitch no matter what if their happy or not

people can have opinions, look you are bitching that people are bitching.

everyone can be upset, get super mad or the opposite, people wanted certain things they didnt get it pissed them off, i get NRS can't please everyone

but fans or superfans like the games for the most part cause of their favorite character is there hell i'll be honest if Kitana was not revealed i would have wanted for the game to go on sale i have 4 other brothers so i grow up playing this game and liking Kitana

when i play the game i play other people i don't mind them, but Kitana is what got me to buy the game at launch

so if people are upset about the characters they choose they have a right

yes you can choose to not buy or buy the ones you like, but getting mad cause people get mad it just annoying forums were made to let people put out their opinions on what they like and don't like

but seriously i never saw people on ed's tweet, forums or youtube be all PUT LEATHERFACE HE IS SO COOL

i saw more NOOB, RAIN, FUJIN, FREDDY, FROST, SAREENA, SINDEL, SPAWN to name a few

we are fans if we weren't fans of these games/movies/comics they would not continue making them. we give them the money that makes them rich, movies wouldn't be number 1 at the box office if people did not go see them.

people need characters/people they like to enjoy the game, etc etc yes you can enjoy other characters when you try them out but your fav character in a game is for a reason
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12/04/2015 05:43 AM (UTC)
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Total_Attraction Wrote:
KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Well I mean it's hard to be stay dedicated to NRS when they give us the finger by completely ignoring what we want. You gotta throw a dog a bone every once in a while.

And honestly no. I've said some shit yeah, but I still can't give a full opinion on the pack because I haven't seen gameplay or what the other content actually is. All you've seen from me was reactions and initial thoughts.


Thank you. FINALLY someone says something worth pointing out. YOU and everyone else hasn't seen anything with these characters. First impressions are all it takes with a bunch of Mortal Kombat fans. How anyone can instantly judge base on no gameplay is beyond me.

We're all guilty, I mean I already said I'm getting it without looking at what these four can do. But again, the same goes into those who refuses to get this. I gaurentee you that half of these folks who are raging at their screens are going to log on when Netherrealm does their casts in the future to showcase what these four are capable of doing as actual playable characters. Will what they do change their minds? To some, mostly yeah. Others, they might still be stubborn to not let things have a chance to impress.

At least you stated that you haven't seen other stuff and actual gameplay footage unlike everyone else who immediately jumped on the hate bandwagon. So kudos to you. I like people who actually sounds like they're gonna at least give it a chance. (Unless you're lying but you seem like a nice guy not to)


Here's why I'm unhappy. I'll give you the root of my problem with this.

The core fans are being completely tossed aside in favor of pleasing the casual audience by bringing in more guest characters.

You can say a fan is a fan but let me say there is most definitely a distinction. He people who wanted more guests are people who probably haven't the game in months. The people who wanted MK characters are probably people who continued to play for a lot longer. It's like we don't matter because we're in the minority despite staying with these guys and their awful netcode for a lot longer than the guys who played for a month and quit.
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12/04/2015 05:43 AM (UTC)
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I'm the type of MK fan that will buy literally whatever NRS throws at us and that's the messed up part. They probably know that fans like me exist and so they take advantage. Or maybe they ginuinely thought that their choices were kick ass but WHY????
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12/04/2015 05:50 AM (UTC)
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whatuknowaboutMK? Wrote:
I'm the type of MK fan that will buy literally whatever NRS throws at us and that's the messed up part. They probably know that fans like me exist and so they take advantage. Or maybe they ginuinely thought that their choices were kick ass but WHY????


A lot of of fans from the Midway days are stuck in the "I need to support MK because there may not be another if I don't" mode. We are not a fan base used to financial stability, haha.
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12/04/2015 05:50 AM (UTC)
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Ion3008 Wrote:
Alien Resurrection was a masterpiece.


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12/04/2015 05:51 AM (UTC)
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Keith Wrote:
Ion3008 Wrote:
Alien Resurrection was a masterpiece.




Lmao...the gif that started it all. Hindsight is a bitch.
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12/04/2015 05:52 AM (UTC)
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Ion3008 Wrote:
Alien Resurrection was a masterpiece.


Truly ahead of it's time.
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12/04/2015 05:52 AM (UTC)
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lol KP2.
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12/04/2015 05:53 AM (UTC)
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Kitana147 Wrote:
people bitch no matter what if their happy or not


People shouldn't bitch if they're happy, then they're just downright prude.

Kitana147 Wrote:
people can have opinions, look you are bitching that people are bitching.


Yes, people are entitled to opinions, yadda yadda yadda. I ain't here telling people they can't post them. I'm here to try to get people to have an open mind for once rather than being stubborn and judge something they haven't even seen yet.

THAT'S annoying.

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everyone can be upset, get super mad or the opposite, people wanted certain things they didnt get it pissed them off, i get NRS can't please everyone


Unfortunately you're talking to a crowd of people that don't get it and that's a problem. Some people don't get that Netherealm doesn't need to cater 100% of their moves to their audience no matter how loud they speak. It's their game. Just like with every other video game company out there. In the end, it's their product. They're in control of what they do with it. They can cater to the fans as much as they want and hear what they have to say. But in the end, it's their stuff, not ours. We only give them money to keep shelving out their products. We're the ones responsible in telling them what we liked and didn't like and it's then their turn to produce from our comments. The moment they see a down in sales is the moment the fans take action and show them they're unsatisfied. But if the sales keeps going into the millions, then obviously they're doing something right. With all this talk about "hardcore fans" I'm sure if every single goddamn hardcore fan were to not buy the next Mortal Kombat game, you'd have an unsuccessful seller.

Netherrealm doesn't have to do squiddly squat to their fans. They took a risk, something most companies do. Sometimes risks go well, other times not so much. You can't say they're not allowed to do their own moves. That, we the fans are the only ones allowed to make their decisions. Because if so, that's horrible. Oh-so fucking horrible.

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when i play the game i play other people i don't mind them, but Kitana is what got me to buy the game at launch


Okay? I bought Mortal Kombat because it's Mortal Kombat. I really don't have a favorite character in the series. I like playing as all of them. Some people don't really care who's in it. Others, like yourself, do. I don't have a problem with that. I know there are people out there who refuses to buy something if their favorite isn't in. I don't have a problem with that. If you don't like something and you are completely unsatisfied, then don't get it. Unlike a lot of people, I don't give a damn what you do in the end.

All I'd like for people to do, is at least have an open mind for once. Not that many people actually do that, but it would be a nice change for once.

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so if people are upset about the characters they choose they have a right


See above.

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yes you can choose to not buy or buy the ones you like, but getting mad cause people get mad it just annoying forums were made to let people put out their opinions on what they like and don't like


Sweetie, I am not mad. Me replying to a bunch of people who are obviously upset at this reveal and replying to them again and again isn't making me mad. It's called "having a conversation." The moment I start insulting people and calling them names they don't need to have thrown at is when I'm mad.

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we are fans if we weren't fans of these games/movies/comics they would not continue making them. we give them the money that makes them rich, movies wouldn't be number 1 at the box office if people did not go see them.


The problem with "we are fans" is that you have people literally labeling who's a casual and who is hardcore. To me, I find that fucking ridiculous because a fan is a fan. I don't give a damn if you have been playing since the original, or just started out when Mortal Kombat 9 came out. You are a fan if you enjoy what you played and want to continue getting the series when more games come out.

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people need characters/people they like to enjoy the game, etc etc yes you can enjoy other characters when you try them out but your fav character in a game is for a reason


But I don't. I just need good gameplay and a decent reason to go get it. So eh, please don't speak for me.

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i was speaking general not at you


You sure? You seemed to aim a lot of your "disgruntled-ness" towards what I've been doing the last two hours on here. But if you say so!

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and i was not speaking for you


Good.

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also don't call me sweetie


Mmm, I'll call people whatever I want as long as it's not insulting. Don't tell me what to do.
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12/04/2015 05:57 AM (UTC)
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whatuknowaboutMK? Wrote:
I'm the type of MK fan that will buy literally whatever NRS throws at us and that's the messed up part. They probably know that fans like me exist and so they take advantage. Or maybe they ginuinely thought that their choices were kick ass but WHY????


I'm the same way. I literally bought an Xbox One just for MKX along with the Kombat Pack.

I spent ONE week playing it.


This time however I can just not justify spending 30 dollars on this crap.

I'll will probably buy Bo Rai Cho. Maybe the cyborg out of loyalty. But fuck the other two.

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12/04/2015 05:58 AM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
The core fans are being completely tossed aside in favor of pleasing the casual audience by bringing in more guest characters.


But it's DLC though. It's not like it's on the main roster. I can see people having an issue if it was on the roster. I'll be the first to admit, I hated that Kratos was in the main roster for Playstation's version. Mostly because I couldn't care less about that overused character. But still, it's DLC. You have a choice to opt out in buying those guests. They gave us two with this latest pack, so just spend the fifteen on Tri-Borg (He really needs to be named that?) and Bo Rai' Cho. That is if that's how it works.

KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
You can say a fan is a fan but let me say there is most definitely a distinction. He people who wanted more guests are people who probably haven't the game in months. The people who wanted MK characters are probably people who continued to play for a lot longer. It's like we don't matter because we're in the minority despite staying with these guys and their awful netcode for a lot longer than the guys who played for a month and quit.


You're saying that there's people that want more guests but I'm also reading from other users here that no one said they wanted Leatherface. So I don't think there's been a lot of people saying they want more guest characters. I'm sure Alien was what many were trying to refer because that was just one big rumor from the beginning. But they included a character that not a single person uttered so how did that come into play if people were begging for guests? That's the part that doesn't make sense.
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12/04/2015 05:59 AM (UTC)
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i was speaking general not at you

and i was not speaking for you

also don't call me sweetie

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12/04/2015 06:00 AM (UTC)
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mkmileena Wrote:
whatuknowaboutMK? Wrote:
I'm the type of MK fan that will buy literally whatever NRS throws at us and that's the messed up part. They probably know that fans like me exist and so they take advantage. Or maybe they ginuinely thought that their choices were kick ass but WHY????


I'm the same way. I literally bought an Xbox One just for MKX along with the Kombat Pack.

I spent ONE week playing it.


This time however I can just not justify spending 30 dollars on this crap.

I'll will probably buy Bo Rai Cho. Maybe the cyborg out of loyalty. But fuck the other two.


I'm the same guys i bought an xbox one just for this game and i have jason and predator and literally never use them. But i cant support this pack theres literally nothing i want. Maybe Bo Rai Cho, i never really liked him but hes the most appealing thing to me here
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12/04/2015 06:05 AM (UTC)
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'Bitching' here is not real to me.

I am hoping this is a joke.

I am also hoping NRS would not do this kind of shit to their fans.
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12/04/2015 06:08 AM (UTC)
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Total_Attraction Wrote:
KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
The core fans are being completely tossed aside in favor of pleasing the casual audience by bringing in more guest characters.


But it's DLC though. It's not like it's on the main roster. I can see people having an issue if it was on the roster. I'll be the first to admit, I hated that Kratos was in the main roster for Playstation's version. Mostly because I couldn't care less about that overused character. But still, it's DLC. You have a choice to opt out in buying those guests. They gave us two with this latest pack, so just spend the fifteen on Tri-Borg (He really needs to be named that?) and Bo Rai' Cho. That is if that's how it works.

KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
You can say a fan is a fan but let me say there is most definitely a distinction. He people who wanted more guests are people who probably haven't the game in months. The people who wanted MK characters are probably people who continued to play for a lot longer. It's like we don't matter because we're in the minority despite staying with these guys and their awful netcode for a lot longer than the guys who played for a month and quit.


You're saying that there's people that want more guests but I'm also reading from other users here that no one said they wanted Leatherface. So I don't think there's been a lot of people saying they want more guest characters. I'm sure Alien was what many were trying to refer because that was just one big rumor from the beginning. But they included a character that not a single person uttered so how did that come into play if people were begging for guests? That's the part that doesn't make sense.


I wanted the DLC though. I wanted to give them my money so I could continue supporting them. I wanted to be excited for MK again. But then they release 3 characters I just have no interest in. Even if their gameplay is stellar, I can't see myself spending money on something I just don't want.

You wanna know why we got Leatherface? Because of those people on twitter saying "More horror characters pls" and NRS knowing that guest characters sell better than MK characters. People just love the idea of non MK characters doing a Fatality. Cool for them, bad for anyone who wanted more MK characters.

And I've said it before, but if they used Ash I guarantee there'd be 25% less bitching from me.
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12/04/2015 06:12 AM (UTC)
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Soooo if they had used a different guest character, this Ash fella, it would be different? A different guest character could have made people happier if I'm reading this correctly? (I'm probably not but.)

I'm confused here. Would Ash from Evil Dead change many minds here that are truly upset at this? Because he's a guest, and most of the complaints I see are "why more guests?"

Unless this is just more so of a "your" thing and not the majority here. Then pardon this post.
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