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KoldKombat
04/03/2015 08:29 PM (UTC)
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WeaponTheory Wrote:
KoldKombat Wrote:
Yea...while not really a Sonya fan, she isn't really performing like SONYA....! At least from what we have seen so far.


And what exactly does Sonya perform like?

She just seems to be more "new" than a classic character updated.

Not that I mind though. Like I said, not a huge fan. Will try her out at best. Granted, if they add her classic green outfit I will play around with her a little more tongue
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Dantesd94
04/03/2015 08:29 PM (UTC)
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Wow, they completely messed up Sonya. Very bland design, and an even blander gameplay.

No cartwheel, no bicycle kicks, no stun kiss. And plus, her X-ray isn't all that great as well. I loved her MK9 X-ray, probably one of the best.

Such a shame, cause I loved using Sonya in MK9. She was an absolute beast.

Low tier for sure this time around.


She actually has the cartwheel in one variation, and the other variations have more usefull moves thand a stun kiss and her icycle kicks

People keep complaining about the moves of the characters but, excuse me people, SOME OF YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BALANCING A CHARACTER!

Sonya Keeps being a very rushdown character and has also new tricks among her variations. If you Like MK9 Sonya then the first variation shown in the stream is for you!

But if you give Sonya all the moves that you listed before, there is no need for 3 variations, you have one masive character in One!

I would love to see Liu Kang using the Dragon Kick from MKvsDC, but give him that move in ANY variation and he becomes unbalanced!

So Please people look and learn deep into a game and character mechanics before complaining. Complaining isn ́t bad, just do it with good reasons and arguments
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04/03/2015 08:46 PM (UTC)
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Bllake Wrote:
AgentK Wrote:
Wow, they completely messed up Sonya. Very bland design, and an even blander gameplay.

No cartwheel, no bicycle kicks, no stun kiss. And plus, her X-ray isn't all that great as well. I loved her MK9 X-ray, probably one of the best.

Such a shame, cause I loved using Sonya in MK9. She was an absolute beast.

Low tier for sure this time around.


She actually does have a cart wheel, she didn't have bicycle kicks last game, and she has a stun grenade now.

Also, you don't know she's low tier. Go worry about Kitana and her TERRIBLE gameplay, UGLY face, and RECYCLED character moves (Jade).

And for the love of God, stop making threads to shit on characters that YOU don't like, because no one gives a flying fuck what you think.




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04/03/2015 09:34 PM (UTC)
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Please keep in mind guys that the guys debuting her gameplay were doing a HORRIBLE JOB. They messed up her combos, they had to make several attempts to do simple special moves, etc. Also, they never showed what a real battle against Sonya would look like. Most of the time the other character was just standing there for Sonya to do attacks on. We haven't seen her in actual kombat yet. We don't know what her flow is going to be like AT ALL.

As for her missing the kiss move, 1) we don't know that she's missing it because seriously - these guys leave out stuff all the time, 2) even if she is - it's more useful as an X-Ray. I almost NEVER used the kiss in MK9 online. It would miss, most of the time, and leave me vulnerable. Now Sonya has literal stun moves that are fast and have good range.

Online in MK9, people really abused Cyrax's specials, to the point where he was almost a troll character. Now Sonya players can finally get some revenge with her grenades and drones.

AND HELLO! LEG GRAB! The ACTUAL leg grab is back!!!
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sharefrock
04/03/2015 09:37 PM (UTC)
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MikeyRu Wrote:
Please keep in mind guys that the guys debuting her gameplay were doing a HORRIBLE JOB.


I dunno why people keep missing this point.

Tyler and the others on the stream did a very bad job at showing off Sonya Blade and what she can do. They messed up a lot of things and I wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot of things they forgot to even mention.
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04/03/2015 09:43 PM (UTC)
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AgentK Wrote:
Wow, they completely messed up Sonya. Very bland design, and an even blander gameplay.

No cartwheel, no bicycle kicks, no stun kiss. And plus, her X-ray isn't all that great as well. I loved her MK9 X-ray, probably one of the best.

Such a shame, cause I loved using Sonya in MK9. She was an absolute beast.

Low tier for sure this time around.


Bland look? Why? Because she no longer looks like a professional stripper in a fake military-esque costume on her way to entertain a frat party?

She finally looks the way that she should... like a ranking officer in the Special Forces. This is how she should have looked from the start. I give NRS congrats on a job well done where her new design is concerned.

As far as her moves go, she still has all of her signatures except for the kiss (which, honestly, I can do without anyway) and the bicycle kicks. She's still Sonya, but with upgrades. I actually do not think she's going to be low tier at all. Not with Covert Ops. No way.

Also, as others have said... with Tyler's VERY bad playing of Sonya in that stream, we still have no idea what she is capable of when played correctly. I don't think it's fair to make a judgment on her gameplay based on that mess.

I'm one of the biggest Sonya fans there is and I have not one problem with the changes they made. Will she take a bit longer to master? I definitely think so... but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It'll just make mastering Sonya that much more gratifying. She's going to be great. I'm not worried at all.
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04/03/2015 09:54 PM (UTC)
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I dunno man, that military jacket with them tits though.


Unnf.
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Darkmage41
04/03/2015 09:57 PM (UTC)
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I cant believe this thread ,especially coming from a "Kitana fan"! do you realize we lost the awesome Jade just so that Kitana can have a third stance, let that sink in “Jade is dead permanently because NRS were out of ideas and had to fill in Kitana's third variation with Mournful” that just sucks more than all Kamikaze drones.

Sonya has three unique variaitons, drones is atleast new to the series, and is technology that is currently used in warzones!

Sonya doesn’t have a Bicycle Kick? that was only an Xray in the previous game( not counting enhanced dive kick)? And is it just me but why are people oblivious to the Kartwheels in Sonya’s Military Stance, they're sitll there, they're just not as absuable as they were in the previous game.

Sonya doesn’t play like Sonya? That true, she is an enhanced ,evolved and superior to her last incarnation and guess what its going to take some actual skill to learn how to play and master her.

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MerdynBlade
04/03/2015 10:10 PM (UTC)
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Darkmage41 Wrote:
I cant believe this thread ,especially coming from a "Kitana fan"! do you realize we lost the awesome Jade just so that Kitana can have a third stance, let that sink in “Jade is dead permanently because NRS were out of ideas and had to fill in Kitana's third variation with Mournful” that just sucks more than all Kamikaze drones.

Sonya has three unique variaitons, drones is atleast new to the series, and is technology that is currently used in warzones!

Sonya doesn’t have a Bicycle Kick? that was only an Xray in the previous game( not counting enhanced dive kick)? And is it just me but why are people oblivious to the Kartwheels in Sonya’s Military Stance, they're sitll there, they're just not as absuable as they were in the previous game.

Sonya doesn’t play like Sonya? That true, she is an enhanced ,evolved and superior to her last incarnation and guess what its going to take some actual skill to learn how to play and master her.



OMG thank you.

This. This. This.

I agree on litterally everything you said.
Finallly someone sees it the way i do.
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Jenafella56
04/03/2015 10:14 PM (UTC)
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TomTaz Wrote:
AgentK Wrote:
Wow, they completely messed up Sonya. Very bland design, and an even blander gameplay.

No cartwheel, no bicycle kicks, no stun kiss. And plus, her X-ray isn't all that great as well. I loved her MK9 X-ray, probably one of the best.

Such a shame, cause I loved using Sonya in MK9. She was an absolute beast.

Low tier for sure this time around.


Bland look? Why? Because she no longer looks like a professional stripper in a fake military-esque costume on her way to entertain a frat party?

She finally looks the way that she should... like a ranking officer in the Special Forces. This is how she should have looked from the start. I give NRS congrats on a job well done where her new design is concerned.

As far as her moves go, she still has all of her signatures except for the kiss (which, honestly, I can do without anyway) and the bicycle kicks. She's still Sonya, but with upgrades. I actually do not think she's going to be low tier at all. Not with Covert Ops. No way.

Also, as others have said... with Tyler's VERY bad playing of Sonya in that stream, we still have no idea what she is capable of when played correctly. I don't think it's fair to make a judgment on her gameplay based on that mess.

I'm one of the biggest Sonya fans there is and I have not one problem with the changes they made. Will she take a bit longer to master? I definitely think so... but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It'll just make mastering Sonya that much more gratifying. She's going to be great. I'm not worried at all.
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04/03/2015 10:26 PM (UTC)
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Queen Sindel kicked both Sonya's and Kitana's asses you know...Sindel is the Queen Bee in MK (and also her x-ray move is called Queen Bee) by the way I love Sonya and Kitana too (no offense please I just wanted to remind you the baddest and strongest female icon in MK universe!!!glasses
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04/03/2015 10:36 PM (UTC)
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Bllake Wrote:
AgentK Wrote:
Wow, they completely messed up Sonya. Very bland design, and an even blander gameplay.

No cartwheel, no bicycle kicks, no stun kiss. And plus, her X-ray isn't all that great as well. I loved her MK9 X-ray, probably one of the best.

Such a shame, cause I loved using Sonya in MK9. She was an absolute beast.

Low tier for sure this time around.


She actually does have a cart wheel, she didn't have bicycle kicks last game, and she has a stun grenade now.

Also, you don't know she's low tier. Go worry about Kitana and her TERRIBLE gameplay, UGLY face, and RECYCLED character moves (Jade).

And for the love of God, stop making threads to shit on characters that YOU don't like, because no one gives a flying fuck what you think.


Well damn.
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Windice
04/04/2015 01:41 AM (UTC)
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Napalm1980 Wrote:
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If anything she's more unique this time around.


I think the main problem is the one variation that's like sonya is a counter one which some people suck at.


Hm... no. I think the main problem the two other variations sucks. Yes I know I didn't played as her yet but still the first impression was meh... Only counter variation was a nice addition to her.

But she looks good in this game, better voice, cool x-ray and hopefully better fatalities this time around... Her mk9 ones sucked.

im sure if used the right way they will not be as bad as u think but there is still the problem of the other 2 variations not being what she normally is like. I'm not a fan of hers so I don't really care and will only stick to her first variation.
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