Grizzle Wrote:
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Grizzle Wrote:
So whoever dies, dies, there's nothing we can really do about it. I just hope, and it's light hope that each character's death in this game actually has a meaning and actually progresses the story. The whole Sindel treatment was lame.


I couldn't agree more with this. The way they handled the Sindel scene in MK9 was pretty anticlimactic. Have the deaths actually mean something this time around.


I don't understand by what you mean of "have the deaths actually mean something this time around". Sindel killing left and right, while rather shocking of how she dispelled some of Earth's greatest warriors with relative ease, had a purpose. You may not have liked how it was done, hell I would've liked to keep Kuai Liang around and one or two other ones from her onslaught, but the purpose was there: annihilate all enemies of Shao Kahn. That's it! There shouldn't have to be a deeper meaning in their deaths, it's Mortal Kombat after all. A tournament (at least in the beginning it was) where fighting other opponents will have a consequence of dying.

Now if you were to argue about Liu Kang at the end of the game seemingly dying senselessly from a combination of his fire attack and Raiden's electricity to have some meaning, I would agree with you there. His death(?) wasn't because Raiden and Liu Kang were on opposite sides of the tournament, they were allies and Raiden finally learned the truth of how to eliminate Kahn, but he was reckless in stopping Kang. That's a death that should have more meaning in the next game, because Kang has historically been the MK Franchise's hero, and you don't simply kill off someone like that without some consequences later on (which I'm sure we will find out in the next game).

Bottom line is, it doesn't bother me that Kuai Liang, Stryker, Jax, Jade, Kitana, even Kung Lao (I have to admit that the Shao Kahn head twist was very WTF), and their deaths don't need additional "meaning" when clearly they are no longer defending Earthrealm but rather they are now revenants of Quan Chi and do his bidding. Depending on how NRS writes up the overall game storyline, I say this sounds pretty badass.


I think he meant give the deaths some actual dramatic weight instead of doing what they did in the Sindel Massacre scene. She was just dishing out blows left and right to beloved characters and having them fall by the wayside. It was so casual you couldn't even be sure that's what was going on all the time until Raiden went to confront Quan Chi.


That's the point I was trying to convey. I'm not saying give each character an epic death sequence like Willem Dafoe in Platoon over here, but it would make the story more rich if so-and-so's death has consequences to the rest of the plot. For example, In MK3, Kung Lao's apparent death gave Liu Kang the rage and strength needed to finally beat Shao Kahn. Kitana's death at the end of Deadly Alliance gave Mileena the opportunity to pose as her and command Edenia's armies. Frost's death represented Sub-Zero's guilt in failure as a mentor, but it also prevented him from being at the final events of Deadly Alliance and let to his allegiance with Kenshi in Deception. Sheeva's death in the bios of Deadly Alliance gave us a glimpse on how deceptive and cunning Kano was in being a survivor when he convinced her to attack Shao Kahn. This also resulted in him being promoted in the ranks of Shao Kahn which led him to be present during the assault on Shao Kahn and his actions in agreeing to command armies for Shang Tsung and Quan Chi later. Do you see where I'm coming from?

These are things that I want to see happen after someone dies, because honestly a punch in the face or a heel in someone's throat and then we don't see what happens after that don't cut it for me, because for most of these plot points and deaths back in the arcade days, we only really had the opportunity to envision them through a still screen with a short story for us to read after each installment of MK. I know I'm not the only one as a kid that grabbed a bag of chips and kept watching the title screen of MK2 without hitting start so I can read all the bios. In this day and age, you have cut scenes now, full dialogue, and voice actors to completely animate the story. One of the things that has always brought me back to Mortal Kombat was the rich mythology and complexity to certain characters. There is so much potential in the story and that's why I go back to the whole Sindel scene because that basically wiped the slate clean and turned most of our heroes into zombies. This move was already done during Deception where Onaga resurrected the likes of Kung Lao, Cage, Jax, Sonya, and Kitana and used them as puppets. I just want to approach the writers and be like c'mon guys you can do much better than that.


Preach my brother preach!!
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DarkenedSoul
12/10/2014 10:41 PM (UTC)
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martin_m95 Wrote:
DarkenedSoul Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
Just hope Quan Chi gets it, whether it's in the beginning, middle or the end of the story.


I second this. It's time Quan Chi sits out a game.


He did in MKD tongue


You obviously haven't beaten the MKD Konquest mode.


I'm referring to the roster. The Konquest Mode doesn't count.
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ReignInBlood1986
12/11/2014 12:32 AM (UTC)
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They ALL should be dead. What the Hell was the point of Mortal Kombat:Armegeddon and MK:9 ?

From this point on, we should have an entirely brand new Mortal Kombat game with ALL new characters. A new generation.



^This.

I WANT THIS for the series, to evolve into something with meaning. I'm sick to death of all these old characters, the "fan favorites", the Wolverines of the franchise. NRS needs to do something creative, artistic, and worthwhile with it's property and I'm glad they finally see it my way. I personally HATED MK9, that was the worst $40 I ever wasted, just a bland stupid revamp of a bunch of tired, worn out old characters, and the weakest story I ever encountered...but the Sindel temple massacre scene was worth the hours of boredom and trudgery required to see it. There I said it, MK9 sucks. Regardless, I'm not one of those, Nostalgia driven homo luddites who cry to Ed Boon on Twitter over characters from the series' past, forget them.

Who needs poorly developed and designed characters like Kitana, Sonya Bland, Johnny Cage, Bruce Lee's little bastard named Liu Kang etc. etc. when you can have cool, interesting new faces like D'vorah, Kotal Kahn, and Ferra Torr? I hope NRS finishes what they started and kill off the rest of the old geezers, bulldoze the Trilogy era, and build a new generation of fighters for the new generation of fans.

However, if they take the stupid route and kill off only a handful of the oldies, make the bad decision of killing some of the fresh ones, and revive some of those who died in MK9 with the same breath for the next installment, then I will gladly take my copy of Mortal Kombat X out of my Playstation and SMASH IT INTO THE WALL furious Afterwards you ALL will feel my disappointment, I will make MKO my own personal Hell. Deception was and still is my favorite installment in the franchise and I've waited 8 damn years for MY Mortal Kombat, If NRS ruins it for me, by resurrecting those who should stay dead, I will walk away from the series and my fandom will cease. furious
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Icebaby
12/11/2014 12:46 AM (UTC)
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ReignInBlood1986 Wrote:
Afterwards you ALL will feel my disappointment, I will make MKO my own personal Hell. Deception was and still is my favorite installment in the franchise and I've waited 8 damn years for MY Mortal Kombat, If NRS ruins it for me, by resurrecting those who should stay dead, I will walk away from the series and my fandom will cease. furious


OR... you could take the non-retardish route and just go away if Mortal Kombat... I'm sorry, YOUR Mortal Kombat doesn't stand up to your needs.

I didn't realize that Netherrealm Studios was making this game just for you. Damn, and I've been counting down for absolutely no reason.




To make this conversation even more interesting, I seriously hope Kitana is in this game just for you to get so overworked at. grin
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Sonya_Cassie
12/11/2014 12:58 AM (UTC)
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Sindel and Jade too tongue
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mkwhopper
12/11/2014 01:31 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
ReignInBlood1986 Wrote:
Afterwards you ALL will feel my disappointment, I will make MKO my own personal Hell. Deception was and still is my favorite installment in the franchise and I've waited 8 damn years for MY Mortal Kombat, If NRS ruins it for me, by resurrecting those who should stay dead, I will walk away from the series and my fandom will cease. furious


OR... you could take the non-retardish route and just go away if Mortal Kombat... I'm sorry, YOUR Mortal Kombat doesn't stand up to your needs.

I didn't realize that Netherrealm Studios was making this game just for you. Damn, and I've been counting down for absolutely no reason.




To make this conversation even more interesting, I seriously hope Kitana is in this game just for you to get so overworked at. grin

The sarcasm is real.
And I love smart ass people
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jdnice11
12/11/2014 02:29 AM (UTC)
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Im curious about this as well. Will ALL characters be up to possible die or will it just be mainly the Veterans that die?

*My ideas- If Raiden dies, WHAT IF, IF Kotal Kahn took over as protector. Just from what ive seen, kotal doesnt seem like an all that of a bad of a character.
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