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02/10/2015 11:42 PM (UTC)
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Onaga Wrote:
Kuai Liang is Sub-Zero.

Bi-Han was simply the catalyst for his origin and is better off dead and as Noob Saibot.


Great point
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02/10/2015 11:45 PM (UTC)
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Also, Kuai is still called Sub-Zero. Here's a good reason why he wouldn't go back to being Tundra. Everyone he now trusts knows him as Sub-Zero. All of the forces of light know him as Sub-Zero. The only ones who know him as Tundra are the Lin Kuei and he shouldn't care about the old lin kuei because they're all cyborgs.

It would be kinda dumb to be like "hey guys, you know how you call me Sub-Zero?, Well, I want to be known as Tundra now." Oh, but my name is actually Kuai Liang who went by Tundra, who is now Sub-Zero, who now wants to be Tundra again. Yeah, that'd be fucking stupid.

MK9 fucked that up anyway because the Sub-Zero name is a lineage with Bi-Han being the 5th and Kuai the 6th. This whole Bi-Han is Sub-Zero, Kuai is just Tundra bullshit needs to stop because Kuai has been Sub-Zero since MK2. Fuck MK9 and its dumbass retcons.

All NRS were trying to do was pay homage to what the character Sub-Zero was originally going to be named. Fans ruined that shit though with "Nuh uh, Kuai Liang is just Tundra". They should have just had Kuai say "The name Sub-Zero has been passed down for generations. Upon my brother's death I took the mantle. I only compete in this folly only to avenge his death."


MK9 happened. We can't just ignore it because it was bad. Just like MKX, whether it's great or a total bomb, we'll just have to live with it. Because that's all we're getting for a while, lol.

I was just saying that if it WAS Bi Han as Sub-Zero, then uh...yeah Kuai Liang should be Tundra. Or just Kuai Liang.

Doesn't matter really, was just asking the question since it happened in story mode and all.
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02/11/2015 12:10 AM (UTC)
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unleash_your_tounge Wrote:
Scar_Subby Wrote:
Also, Kuai is still called Sub-Zero. Here's a good reason why he wouldn't go back to being Tundra. Everyone he now trusts knows him as Sub-Zero. All of the forces of light know him as Sub-Zero. The only ones who know him as Tundra are the Lin Kuei and he shouldn't care about the old lin kuei because they're all cyborgs.

It would be kinda dumb to be like "hey guys, you know how you call me Sub-Zero?, Well, I want to be known as Tundra now." Oh, but my name is actually Kuai Liang who went by Tundra, who is now Sub-Zero, who now wants to be Tundra again. Yeah, that'd be fucking stupid.

MK9 fucked that up anyway because the Sub-Zero name is a lineage with Bi-Han being the 5th and Kuai the 6th. This whole Bi-Han is Sub-Zero, Kuai is just Tundra bullshit needs to stop because Kuai has been Sub-Zero since MK2. Fuck MK9 and its dumbass retcons.

All NRS were trying to do was pay homage to what the character Sub-Zero was originally going to be named. Fans ruined that shit though with "Nuh uh, Kuai Liang is just Tundra". They should have just had Kuai say "The name Sub-Zero has been passed down for generations. Upon my brother's death I took the mantle. I only compete in this folly only to avenge his death."


MK9 happened. We can't just ignore it because it was bad. Just like MKX, whether it's great or a total bomb, we'll just have to live with it. Because that's all we're getting for a while, lol.

I was just saying that if it WAS Bi Han as Sub-Zero, then uh...yeah Kuai Liang should be Tundra. Or just Kuai Liang.

Doesn't matter really, was just asking the question since it happened in story mode and all.


I think your point was great, I can't see why anybody would disagree.

Everything you said makes sense and is actually a good story for Kuai Liang, IF he is the Subby in MKX. he could struggle with whether he should keep calling himself sub-zero even knowing that his brother the original subby is still out there.
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... here's your Subzero, now plain zero.

02/11/2015 12:19 AM (UTC)
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SHAMEonNINJAS Wrote:
sharefrock Wrote:
WOW! Nobody wants Bi-Han as sub-zero.

I guess people love Bi-Han as Noob-Saibot and Kuai As Subby.

Yes noob is the man.


Noob and Havik can be unstoppable together. Bi-Han reverting to SZ will make that alliance really difficult to achieve from a story telling point of view; which is one of the main reasons why I do not want him to be magically purified. The other reason is to give Frost more of a chance to be included in the game.
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02/11/2015 12:50 AM (UTC)
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My vote is Both

My argument is based on the comics and little game footage we have seen so far,

Documented in this thread. Also we've seen kuai's costume in game already(in that ermac fatality tweet, picture is in ^that thread link) thats why no one thinks it's only bi-han
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02/11/2015 10:12 AM (UTC)
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Cages_Shades Wrote:
My vote is Both

My argument is based on the comics and little game footage we have seen so far,

Documented in this thread.


Also we've seen kuai's costume in game already(in that ermac fatality tweet, picture is in ^that thread link) thats why no one thinks it's only bi-han


that's actually a pretty convincing argument, It's very possible that it's both and it's what most people seem to think will happen.
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02/11/2015 10:41 AM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:
Cages_Shades Wrote:
My vote is Both

My argument is based on the comics and little game footage we have seen so far,

Documented in this thread.


Also we've seen kuai's costume in game already(in that ermac fatality tweet, picture is in ^that thread link) thats why no one thinks it's only bi-han


that's actually a pretty convincing argument, It's very possible that it's both and it's what most people seem to think will happen.

It's for the best. No Noob Saibot, No Cyber Sub-Zero.

Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
Although I still say Forrest Fox might become a new wraith-like apprentice for quan chi
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02/11/2015 01:49 PM (UTC)
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Bi Han, I like him better as Sub-Zero.
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Lord_Greyjoy
02/11/2015 03:34 PM (UTC)
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both, and it will be reflected by separate costumes like in MK9
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02/11/2015 06:59 PM (UTC)
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Onaga Wrote:
Kuai Liang is Sub-Zero.

Bi-Han was simply the catalyst for his origin and is better off dead and as Noob Saibot.

To better illustrate my point I urge whoever reads this to watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3YR8cg8ZPk

Quoted For Fucking Truth
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02/11/2015 08:18 PM (UTC)
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mkwhopper Wrote:
Onaga Wrote:
Kuai Liang is Sub-Zero.

Bi-Han was simply the catalyst for his origin and is better off dead and as Noob Saibot.

To better illustrate my point I urge whoever reads this to watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3YR8cg8ZPk

Quoted For Fucking Truth


Double Quoted For the Double Fucking Truth
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02/11/2015 08:44 PM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:
mkwhopper Wrote:
Onaga Wrote:
Kuai Liang is Sub-Zero.

Bi-Han was simply the catalyst for his origin and is better off dead and as Noob Saibot.

To better illustrate my point I urge whoever reads this to watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3YR8cg8ZPk

Quoted For Fucking Truth


Double Quoted For the Double Fucking Truth
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Triple quoted till you all realize who the real sub-zero is.
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02/11/2015 09:05 PM (UTC)
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02/11/2015 09:12 PM (UTC)
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