I can respect what you're saying, and I must say that I love the fact that people are talking about a possible new MK game, but as far as Reiko goes, can you tell me what potential you see in him? Mind you, I'm not asking you to justify your opinion, merely expand on it so I can see what you're seeing.

From where I'm sitting, Boon said a long time ago that they're separate characters, true, and this is more than implied in Reiko's Armageddon ending, but that doesn't necessarily have to be the case in the new timeline.

In the old timeline, Khan wasn't killed until MKDA. But in the new timeline, he was offed at what I guess we could call the end of MK3. Reiko had "thought to have been killed" built in to his original story. What if in this one he simply doesn't return, but Khan has returned, his soul reduced by how his life ended and he has to protect his identity while he regains his strength?

I'm sure I'm not convincing you here, but to me, I like that twist; the whole "you thought he was Khan before and you were wrong, well... Guess what?"

I also like the chance to play Khan as a regular, scaled down character more than the idea of building off of one of, in my opinion, the more generic move sets in MK in Reiko, a story that in both games he's in only boils down to wanting Khan's helmet... I dunno, I just don't see the appeal. What are you looking at that makes you want him to return? Just curious.

Scorpion is Gold. Orange would be too similar. A grey and white ninja is not the same thing. Smoke is silver rather than grey. So it's actually Silver Smoke. And Gold Scorpion. White is more of a powerful colour than orange, there was white power ranger ninja, Zed the white ninja in league of legends, Shinobi game was white ninja.

Either way they have their hands full with other characters. I'd like to see them successfully turn the general opinion of the MK4-6 cast around. That would take a lot of work.



Nothing and no one.

Chameleon is a better option for "white ninja" than Khrome. Or Hell Zebron.

...Actually y'know what? Zebron would be fuckin radical.

Anyway Tremor shouldn't be a standard ninja..that's why a lot of people are down on him in the first place, He should be as ninja-lite as possible. Something like this

So, basically what you're saying is that because Mortal Kombat lacks an orange colored fighter, we NEED to have one and Tremor can easily fill that spot?

Then I vote that we need a pink male ninja then. I shall call him Pinklet.

That's what I'm saying in the second half of the post, the part you didn't quote.



The potential I see in Reiko is all the things we don't know about him! His past, origins and how he came to be one of the most powerful and ruthless of Kahn's generals are unknown to us. How did he become part of the Brotherhood? Why does he hate Quan Chi in Armageddon all of a sudden? Why does he want Kahn's helmet, and possibly even his throne?

Reiko has ambitions! And I'd love to see his story told. To make him a "weak Kahn" seems like a very boring and cheap way to fill out the blanks. To me, asking for Reiko and Kahn to be merged into one character is just like asking for that to happen to Kitana and Jade, Sonya and Jax, Liu Kang and Kung Lao, Sub-Zero and Smoke, Sektor and Cyrax... Just because they share some similarities does not mean they should be the same person.

And other than that, I think he looks awesome and plays just as awesome as well, definately one of my favourite characters in both games he's appeared in.

But you already said in the first part you'd still vote against him. So if it was a poll, you wouldn't vote for Tremor. Being reasonable would be voting for Tremor and letting them do something with Tremor.

What you're saying is "Yeah Tremor could be okay but if it was put to a vote I'd say no."

Would Pinklet have all the powers of Bubblegum?

Because I prefer for him NOT to make an appearance in the game, thus I'm not going to support the notion. And no, I don't think Tremor could be okay, but I could be surprised, but as I also stated, I doubt that's going to happen.

Ed Boon showed u how much he cares about Chameleon by ruling him out. Ed Boon also showed u how much he cares about Tremor by rushing him just for PS Vita.

Khrome is yet to get an opinion from the creator himself, Ed Boon.

I see what you're saying. I think that same level of intrigue and unknown that you see in Reiko is what I'm seeing (or possibly projecting) on to Mavado, Drahmin and definitely Tremor.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not full steam ahead "Team Tremer" or anything like that, but I see a thread in his story that makes him unique, or at least makes me think that learning more of that story could (possibly) be interesting.

A lot of people don't see that thread in the three characters I mentioned or if they do see it, the interest level isn't nearly enough to want to see that character again.

I think that's where I fall with Reiko. But I do get what you see in him now and if they actually explored his background as you talk about it, as well as his agenda, I'd be interested.

I do want to be clear though that I did NOT mean to imply merging Reiko and Khan. While I really doubt that would lead to mass merging of big name characters, NRS does have a record of move swapping ala Kano/Jarek, Kano/Sonya to Kira etc, so I definitely wouldn't be in favor of that one bit.

I didn't mean filling in Reiko's blanks in his past with "he was Khan all along" or anything of the sort. I just meant that for this game, Khan would disguise himself as his general that everyone thought was dead while he regains his strength. Reiko wouldn't be in the game literally (but rather DLC later with his own moves and a look that's more his own. That's what I'd want anyways.

I'd like that twist and the chance to play as a balanced boss ala Shang Tsung in MK2. But I get that you're not down with that, so it's cool. To each, his own!

I don't see people buying Tremor if he is DLC because there is a split community regarding Tremor. Rain was the most requested character to return so he got in. I'm gonna make a 'Most requested character to return poll', let's see how well Tremor does on poll this time, he didn't do so well in 2011 poll.

Proof here

Well yeah that's because Chameleon is a garbage character. Chameleon is garbage. I'm saying a garbage character is better than adding in Khrome. Chameleon > Khrome. That's what I'm saying. I said that.

I noticed you had nothing to say about Zebron which I will take to mean that you also agree. Zebron would be kickass as a white ninja instead of Khrome.

How do you rush a fun little MK: SF reference? Ed Boon showed me that he at least remembered Tremor and the dreck that is Special Forces. Whereas as Khrome has yet to get any response but "Who?"

Also that music is too Dance 90's for me. Not my thing..I like a different type of music. Louder harder more abrasive.

If I'm coming off as obnoxious it's because you've been pushing for Khrome super hard for a while now and it's getting irritating.

I stopped reading after garbage is better than Khrome. Something yet noone has witnessed is more worse than something that was garbage. Cocaine messes up your brain which to me sounds like something your on.

Dude, you're obsessively mongering a non-existent character that was jokingly spawned from a manufacturing error on a statue of an existing character and bares no actual relevance to any legitimate faction of its derived outlet.

And you're claiming someone else is on drugs?

Come on guys, a pink male ninja. Whatta you say? If people wanna see all the colors of the spectrum, we need pink!



But all seriousness, I appreciate that Frost is there on the list. FAN GIRL!

I'm not sure that I get why Rain is so beloved and Tremor is so hated. One was a joke in MK3, a reference to Prince. The other was in a godawful spin off game. If I'm weighing those two together, I'm not thinking "I have to have one but I don't like the other."

I mean, is it ninja fatigue? Because we're a bit far gone on ninjas to all of a sudden decide now that this one is suddenly one too many. Besides, being in the Black Dragon, I could see him having a hybrid sort of look. I've seen a pic on here for what he could look like that pretty awesome.

So what is it? Do people resent him because of a perceived vocal minority pushing for him? I mean, there do seem to be a bunch of these minor characters that some people feel the need to turn in to pet projects, so I could see that getting annoying after so many tries and so many characters.

I would just say this: Ermac got a chance to be a legit character after beginning as a glitch turned arcade legend and now, I'd argue, he's one of the best. Rain has now had multiple chances to catch on after his humble beginnings and he's certainly found his niche among fans.

So why not this character? Why not have something good come out of that terrible offshoot game, canon or not? A fully realized ninja with Earth powers in the Black Dragon is at least slightly intriguing to me, and with what NRS has been able to do design-wise post Midway, that potential only increases.

I'd admit though that while I see potential, I'm not a huge Tremor fan, but the arguments against him just seem kinda strange to me given MK's history with their "fringe" characters.

My favourite thing in the world is people trashing a Tremor or Chameleon for being 'another garbage palatte swap' before talking about that other character they like so much since they got updated.

Not too long ago Ermac was a red palette swap. Heck, there's a lot of Reiko talking going on: He was a maskless maroon palette swap who subbed for Noob Saibot. A lot can changed in a decade and a half.

Why does Tremor have the cult foothold other MKSF characters don't?
Don't forget: He's been in the awareness since MKT [more]. Like every other strand that's been tugged at over the last 15 years (Ermac, Blaze, Skarlet) - Tremor is unfinished business!

Actually existing has probably given him the leg up over competition like Hornbuckle (who some still want to see). People clearly like that he has potential for a concise gimmick theme (Earth!). He's already got an interesting story premise that fleshes out existing groups - Lin Kuei defects to Black Dragon. And he's one of the last remaining John Tobias originals who hasn't been tapped. Tobias himself told us he had "big plans" for Tremor.

Why do people want to see Tremor as a playable character?

Probably because that's the only thing missing from the equation.

Pfft. I dont even do weed. And I can count on one hand the times I've been drunk. So that's hilarious thanks for the laugh..

Anywho I had a thought..what if Drahmin had various insects incorporated in his moveset? Instead of annoying flies buzzing around him think locust/scarabs/Spiders that Imhotep used in the mummy movie occasionally crawling inside his body and scurrying about. Definitely not ball o flies projectile but a swarm of locusts that can shoot out of his mouth like a grotesque version of Candyman.

Get rid of the underwear of doom give him some wraps like his alternate costume and keep the mask/Club and boom Drahmin improved.

This.

I don't get how some fringe characters are so beloved while others are completely discarded by fans.

I actually wasn't aware of Tobias having big plans for him. That honestly moved him up a little in my estimation.

I like the idea of insects, but I wish he had some sort of homemade armor made out of defeated Oni to play on the fact he was once a Warlord.....Kind of a superiority complex.

Sareena-Yes
Frost-Sure
Tanya-Yeah
Drahmin-GTFO
Shujinko-No .-.
Tremor-Just to see JR mad (* ̆) ̆*)
Fujin-Yeah

this is best possibly choice,everythink is very fine,Fujin,and most new fighters,specially Tremor who don`t ever been on a real fighting version on a Mortal Kombat,and his appearance to rejoices me

i wouldn't go as far as to claim Tremor really goes back to trilogy. there is still not any source to back up these claims that he was almost included in trilogy. just a bunch of fan rumors which i believe came after he debuted in MK SF.

even with fan rumors surrounding glitches and characters ppl supposedly "saw" (aka Skarlet/Ermac) . I believe Tremor's situation isn't comparable to theirs as hes been made an existing character by Tobias in that side game....

I also feel its obvious that his leg up he has from the other SF characters is the whole "plz put another Ninja in MK" hype after ppl finished bugging Ed Boon over Rain's mk9 inclusion. Whether ppl want to admit it or not, if tremor's original design in SF had a more traditional black dragon thug look and was not mk ninja-like at all, would we still be talking about him now, would there still be hype over him?? probably not. Afterall, no one talks about Tasia and No face.

anyways... whose to say he didn't have "big plans" for Tasia and No Face too? just that no one asked him about them?

The difference between community complaining about Tremor's inclusion and Rain's inclusion is that Rain fans were more vocal, whereas the community is split on Tremor's inclusion and the ones that want him in are 'maybe, maybe not crowd'.

lol