You guys have any idea of which character you are doing next for retrospective. If I can make a suggestion of Scorpion or Reptile id like to hear for sure. Since you guys said your taking requests.

That Reptile hissing was entertaining as well.

I'm glad you guys aren't serious the whole time it feel bit stiff.

The Shijinko bit of him altering existing moves by combining reminded me how bad I'd love to see tag team fatality's if tag team were to come back in MKX. For example having Reptile performing his Acid Yak and Scorpion performing Toasty. So its like an acidic fire which burns and melts the fighter to death.

Mine was:

10) Kai - Like I said on the show, I want to see a Capoeira fighter in the game, which Kai would be if you elaborated on what they meant for his handstands to be in MK4. Also, he's the only Shaolin/White Lotus guy who isn't dead right now.

9) The other Sub-Zero brother - If Sub is Bi-Han, then I want Kuai Liang in the game too somehow, perhaps as the alt costume, like they were in MK9. (I'd also rather that Bi-Han was in the game as Noob Saibot...but if that ship has already sailed then so be it. I'd absolutely hate if Noob was in the game as a separate entity like if he and Bi-Han were separated into two people or if someone else was transformed into a new Noob, that would be stupid.)

8) Fujin

7) Mileena - Already posted why.

6) Daegon - If the Red Dragons are returning as the comic book suggests, I want to see their leader because he's the only member I liked in the games, and he is an ally of Shinnok. Also, I like him 'cause his voice actor sounded like Clancy Brown, so he reminded me of the animated version of Lex Luthor...and now they work for WB, so they actually could get the real Clancy Brown.

5) Bo' Rai Cho
4) Shujinko
3) Smoke
2) Shinnok
1) Sareena

I also had an Honorable Mention that said "Everybody from the Netherealm" (i.e. Reiko, Drahmin, and Ashrah), lol.



Actually, Scorpion's one of my favorite characters. It's just that I like him best when he's doing something that isn't revenge-related, like in MK2, 3, and Deception. So...since he's still stuck in revenge mode and has been for the past several games, I don't have a lot to say about him right now.

When will the next episode be up?

It's up on their YouTube channel right now. There's just no thread for it yet.

10. Havik
9. Ashrah
-I thought she had a lot of potential. I really liked her more conservative look, not over sexified. Her gameplay was fun. Her backstory was different and interesting.

8. Johnny Cage
-He's just a lot of fun. It makes perfect sense for him to come back. I think the father daughter dynamic would be interesting to see.

7. Baraka
-Even though he seems to get the short end of the stick, I still enjoy his presence, and would like him to have an opportunity to get more spotlight whenever possible.

6. Kenshi
-My favorite from MK4-MKA. I love his story and gameplay. A blind telekinetic swordsman is really striking. I'd like to see his story progress.

5. Shinnok
4. Fujin
3. Ermac
-He's a lot of fun to use, and I want to see his story progress. He's got a great look that I'd love to see how they'd design him for this game. Everyone's outfits are the best they've been IMO.

2. Reptile
1. Cyrax

I gave my reasons for the others that made the top 10.

My list went like so:

10. Tanya

-A perennial favorite of mine, I probably want her back more for gameplay purposes over plot thid time through. I loved her "Cammy meets Chun-Li meets Akuma" MK4 playstyle and really want to see it expanded on. I'd like to see her treacherous nature come back to bite her in the ass this time through, heh heh...

9. Sektor

-The Lin Kuei are this giant dangling plot thread right now, and while they could just as easily resolve it again by having whatever Sub-Zero this is beat Sektor offscreen like between MK4/G and MKDA, I'd rather we get the depiction of that fight, preferably playable. Sektor was one of my two mains along with Smoke in MK9, so I'd love to wreack havoc with him again.

8. Shinnok

-Here's where I start craving characters for their untapped potential. We've chatted about him a bit already, you know the drill. Guy needs to be imposing, terrifying, really should leave his mark on the series this time.

7. Bo' Rai Cho

Just Imagine his 3D gameplay, or variations on it, on a 2D plane! Combine that with the fact that he's just one of those archetypes that really fit MK's bill, someone who's started to develop a good following but had teh unfortunate stigma of debuting during the 3D days, someone who could just maybe lead whoever fights for Earthrealm this time through (if not Fujin himself)...he's got every reason to be involved with Li and Kung Lao gone.

6. Liu Kang

-Possibly one of MK9's better accomplishments was giving him a brain and something of a good personality. I really want to see what his mindset is, who if anyone he'll fight for should he return. He's one of the biggest question marks right now, one that begs answering. Plus, when isn't he fun to play?

5. Reiko

Like I mentioned, a bit of an open book with all the room in the world for some background and showcasing. Absolutely one of my favorite movesets in his MK4 incarnation. Absolutely needs to come back and make his presence felt.

4. Shang Tsung

Need I say it? Being fed to Sindel was bullshit. This guy used to be one of MK's foremost baddies before he became a simpering toad, and it saddens me. I just want him to come back and ruin Quan Chi's day.

3. Fujin

Another one we've discussed. Raiden needs to retire and everyone knows it. The elder gods should send this guy over with his pink slip. He's possibly MK's most frequently overlooked character despite relatvively persistent demand. It's time!

2. Havik

What's not to love?

1. Smoke

Favorite character, brand new background, potentially interesting new directions, kickass MK9 gameplay....yeah, he's tops on my list for all the reasons.



Scorpion is one of my most frequently used characters and he's an unquestionable classic. I just disapprove of how they've turned him into basically an angry Ghost Rider wielding hellfire and seeking retribution all the time. There was once much more of an emphasis on his ninja and ghostly elements; he was once more of a 'creepy wronged dead guy' than a 'spirit of vengeance', if that makes sense. I just want them to resolve his feud with Sub, at the very least, and do something else.

Awesome, thanks.

Awwww... No Reiko in Top10.

So yeah, hmmm... *cough cough*
We all know the real no.1 here was Fujin actually (wooooohoooo!).

Just to quickly share my Top 5 most wanted characters to return:

01. Fujin (fave and SO SO DUE)
02. Kitana (fave)
03. Reiko (love gameplay, MKA design & konquest showing, mysteriousness)
04. Shinnok (interesting looks, awesome MKA konquest showing and should finally wreck some shit and kick quan chi's ass so bad)
05. Sektor (love this character with each appearance more; more than anything the gameplay- super fun in all games, especially MK2011 + then there's also the fantastic design and great set of fatalities in MK2011 as well; this character is storming up my rankings, please don't stop now NRS)

Well trying to rehabilitate Mileena IS stupid.

But I completely believe Kitana would have an idea like that, lol.
Probably because, despite the fact that most of the games (especially MKG, the game that showed Kitana put Mileena in the dungeon in the first place) depict Kitana absolutely despising Mileena and not even thinking of her as a person since finding out she's a clone, they keep shoving these endings out there where Kitana acts like a Disney princess with the forgiveness and the sisterhood and the forming girl-power teams based on making cheesy "Charlie's Angels" references...

I too want Shang back. We know that in MK2011 there was an uneasy relationship between them... so, after what happened in that game, why not go with a mutual-hatred relation, like in MKC?

Yeah, it's been three in a row now. Nauseating...

Milleena is my favorite female character. I cant see her without that crazy sexual appeal. Cause before that she was pretty plain in my opinon. It gave her substance and renewed the character to make her feel fresh in my eyes.

Am i the only 1 who thinks she could have a lasting relationship with Havik cause he's all about chaos and Millena is crazy so i could def see it working with Kahn gone and her finding some to latch onto. They could create alot of destruction/chaos.

Do you think it be a good fit you guys ?

I think her appearance in MK9 and her gameplay was flawless. Her MK9 fatality was my favorite of her's as well. I think im like the only 1 who liked the nail spit. Always thought her teeth sharpened the nail before she'd spit them out.

Also do you guys want the krypt to return ?

Would you want it different ?

Would you perfer different way of unlocking attires,stages,kodes, Kharacters ?

Id like to see a krypt in a form of a row of wells like mk4 were theres spikes at the bottem. It could have an item at the end after you get impaled. It be a nod to MK4. Give it that creepy MK4 main menu music for the krypt as well. It be rows of wells with spikes in them or maybe have stone floors, acid, lava etc in the wells to give it variation.

Do you like the idea ?

I hope it doesn't leak as well in MKX. Another good episode you guys keep them coming. i Wouldn't mind hearing my username get a shoutout or even 1 an answer to 1 of my questions in the podcast. it be neat.

Would You guys want enhanced Fatalitys, X - Rays in MKX ?

Since We already have Enhanced Special Moves. For example you save your entire meter for the 2nd round and you input the fatality command and hit R2 or Right Trigger depending on what console your playing. Boom its enhanced with added effects or properties that last bit longer adding an extra shazam to a Fatailty or X - Ray. Only usable in last round.

I don't believe Havik A) is capable of monogamy, B) even has sex (for all we know, his dick's rotted off like his face), or C) gives enough of a shit about Outworld to stick around longterm. He's a traveler.

Plus it would just make them the Joker and Harley Quinn, and I absolutely hate the Harley traits Mileena has acquired. She's supposed to be her own character.

If I were going to pair Mileena with someone other than Baraka, it would be a character who's trying to claim Outworld's throne and using a marriage to Shao Kahn's daughter for political power...so someone like Reiko or Kotal. Perhaps Rain, but I imagine him as the kind of character who has vanity/shallowness as a defining trait, so he'd be too disgusted by her face.

Just got caught up and subscribed on both youtube and iTunes so that depending on what activities my day involves, I can still listen to you guys when new episodes drop. Been loving these episodes so far and I can already feel you guys getting more into it/more relaxed so its all easier to listen to (helps that I finally got down all of your voices as well as to whom they belong to).

No complaints really, just wanted to say after 4 episodes in, I'm still checkin' 'em out and I'd say you guys are just as entertaining as some of the other podcasts I listen to regularly so keep up the good work.

Most wanted "returning" character for me....well a lot of people will be mad ad me for this.





Aside from that, I'd say Skarlet. She's a new character. She needs more exposure. Maybe a variation with those blood tendrils

Nice 4th episode. I haven't watched it all the way through, I just finished the MK4 part, but I think you missed one little secret where if you beat the ladder with Kai and swapped his costume he would receive Raiden's staff like he did in the ending.

You don't have to beat the ladder. I was referring to Raiden when I talked about it on the show, but like I said, the alt costumes for every character come preset with different weapons. Kai's for costume 3 or 4, I forget which, is indeed the staff.
In other news, Wednesday's coming up, so...
HEY LISTENERS!
What character would you like us to talk about in the next retrospective?

Ah, ok. I always assumed you had to beat the ladder.

Also, I wouldn't mind if you guys talked about your thoughts on Goro, and what he might have to do with the story. With the news on the comics of him possibly returning and fighting Kotal Kahn, what role do you think he will have in the game, if any?

We may be holding out on discussing Goro in greater detail in case they do a gameplay video reveal for him...

Stryker would spark some good conversation, I think

I second this.

Further listening to it, you guys did get on the topic of Goro. Sorry about that. I always thought he looked dumber in MK9 with that stupid ass elbow plate thing. IMO simple, big ass Goro like in MK4 was the best.

Also, Stryker would be a good choice.

I would say the biggest problem with Goro looks-wise in MK9 was his yellow eyes and goofy looking buckteeth.

We have let our guest for tomorrow's episode pick the retrospective character, and the choice was Frost.

So any questions/talking points pertaining to Frost, we'll be glad to discuss them.

As for Stryker, we will get to him in the following episode unless we have another guest on.

Yep. He always looked off to me. His best look (imo) was Shaolin Monks/Deception.