Jarek Ultra Revamp Idea
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posted01/18/2015 01:17 AM (UTC)by
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Lokheit
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06/23/2010 03:26 PM (UTC)
I, like many others, really dislike Jarek. I think he's a very bland character, basically a poor man's Kano without the cool cyborg eye and even less personality.

But today I was thinking about something that could redeem him if he's going to be included in the game just for the sake of including MK4 characters:

With the 3 styles per character thing, I got the idea that he could be shown to be the last survivor from the Black Dragon, and either because they taught their young member their techniques, or because he's a jerk and betrayed them to steal from them, make his 3 styles based on each Black Dragon member seen in Special Forces.

This way Jarek would get Kano's default moves as he was his pupil, and then he could have a Katana's style based on Tasia's training, a flamethrower style based on No-Face's techniques, and Tremor-like powers (they would need to explain how he can use them, if it's a technique that can be taught or it's done with technology).

This way you get the one-man Black Dragon Swiss Knife (butterfly knife?), you get lore mentions of all those characters not good enough to make the cut, but that are remembered by some fans (specially Tremor) and you make a totally bland character a very versatile character.

This, along with a new look, more dark spec ops and less "I'm a completly random bland dude", could help revamp Jarek.

Thoughts?
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Tazer_Gunshot
07/10/2014 01:33 PM (UTC)
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II'd like the inclusion of Jarek, but, nothing to do with Kanos abilities. Since we have Cassie, there is a good chance we will be given Kano.
Jarek should have a whole new array of specials even with the addition of the 3 variations.
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Icebaby
07/10/2014 01:46 PM (UTC)
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I don't see the inclusion of Kano because of Cassie. I hope she has her own enemy to go after than her parents' enemy. But I like the whole betrayal and have the other Black Dragon members around in his variation. Just ditch Tremor's. It's not because I dislike him but because Jarek doesn't need earth bending abities.
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07/10/2014 01:47 PM (UTC)
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In MK4 I always liked the slamming the ground with back move, don't think Kano had the same move, its just the fatalities that were so damn unoriginal

He has some potential but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't come back to MKX, but in my opinion MK4 characters and some from DA and D need a second chance.
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ErmaSco
07/10/2014 01:48 PM (UTC)
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Tazer_Gunshot Wrote:
II'd like the inclusion of Jarek, but, nothing to do with Kanos abilities. Since we have Cassie, there is a good chance we will be given Kano.
Jarek should have a whole new array of specials even with the addition of the 3 variations.


Aged Kano would be awesome.
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07/10/2014 01:49 PM (UTC)
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Of his moves in MK4, the only one I'd want him to keep is his blade throw. Seems appropriate since the black dragon are ruthless mercenaries.
His move list revamp for Armageddon wasn't too bad and I truly wouldn't mind if they gave him a gun move, seeing that the black dragon is set on machine weaponry in MK9.
Never been a fan of him, but I'm open minded going into X and expect to like characters I didn't like before.
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DVorah
07/10/2014 02:50 PM (UTC)
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I only like Jarek if he has the earth-based powers of Tremor.

If not, then I hope he rots in hell, really I don't want a Kano clone at all. Kano is good enough for me, he has his steel-face thing, Jarek is just a bland human that shoots lasers from his eyes...

I have to watch his Armageddon moveset some day, really I can only remember Jarek in MK4...
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DVorah
07/10/2014 02:54 PM (UTC)
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I've seen his moves in Armageddon on youtube and I hate them.

Some Scorpion and Mavedo's moves and a earthquake drop.

The earthquake drop is interesting tho, because Icebaby doesn't want Earth-based powers, and that is all that.

Jarek for Tremor replacer ALL the way.
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Lokheit
07/10/2014 03:08 PM (UTC)
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Well, I wasn't saying that he would be Kano 2.0, what I meant is that since all characters have a couple of moves common to every style, he could have a couple from Kano (knife toss and roll?) since he was BD's leader and then each of his styles could be related to each member to spice things.

This way you get the whole list of BD goons represented on the same character to rival Cassie, and there is still room for aged Kano since he isn't taking everything from him.
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DarkKard4
07/10/2014 03:20 PM (UTC)
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Honestly if he does come back, they're prolly just gonna use his MKA moves. the Rhino stomp and lasso moves already make him different from Kano.



DVorah Wrote:
I've seen his moves in Armageddon on youtube and I hate them.

Some Scorpion and Mavedo's moves and a earthquake drop.

The earthquake drop is interesting tho, because Icebaby doesn't want Earth-based powers, and that is all that.

Jarek for Tremor replacer ALL the way.


Uhhh thats an exaggeration. They reused the rope model but "Lasso Snatch" is different than Scorpion's "Spear". It actually comes out from above, than flings him over and then slams him for a pop up. While Scorpion simply shoots forward, stabs, and brings him over in a dizzy state.

I do see lasso snatch and rhino stomp in his move set if he does return. Both are very useful i think... i'm sure they'd give him new moves still.... it'd should happen with the variation thing going on anyways
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thisiscourage
07/10/2014 03:31 PM (UTC)
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If kano is out of the game, I like this idea a lot.
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RoyalChakra
07/10/2014 03:37 PM (UTC)
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I don't want him. So hopefully he's not in.
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moneyguy
07/10/2014 03:53 PM (UTC)
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All MK4 characters must return.
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Sub-Zero_7th
07/10/2014 04:19 PM (UTC)
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I still don't care much for Jarek, and I wouldn't be bothered if he's not in MKX. Having said that, revamping his gameplay could involve a focus on different weapons. Aside from his quake move, I don't see him having much for special powers. Instead, he could keep his lasso and have various special moves centered around its usage.

I also like the idea of him using a machete or a pair of machetes to give the idea of him using bladed weapons like Kano but still being different. Using them could be another one of his play styles. I didn't really care much for him using the "Kick Axe", especially since it looked like it was designed for chopping down trees as opposed to people.

His third play style could be more of a brawling style where he'd have special moves geared more towards close-ranged combat. He had that Tricky Switch move in MK: Armageddon, which was an ok move, but the concept behind it made sense for him.
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07/10/2014 05:00 PM (UTC)
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I actually am one of the people that likes Jarek from MK4 even though he is a copy of Kano in a way. Black Dragons should be in the game.
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Wanderer
07/10/2014 05:31 PM (UTC)
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I highly doubt we'll ever see Jarek again. At this point he's probably dethroned Stryker as most hated MK character.
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RazorsEdge701
07/10/2014 06:39 PM (UTC)
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The Black Dragon aren't dying in this universe, they're stronger than ever. No reason to have a "last survivor" character.
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StrykerKombat
07/10/2014 06:41 PM (UTC)
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Wanderer Wrote:
I highly doubt we'll ever see Jarek again. At this point he's probably dethroned Stryker as most hated MK character.


Stryker has a good and growing fan base, sounds like you're stuck in 1995 :/
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Tazer_Gunshot
07/10/2014 06:53 PM (UTC)
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ErmaSco Wrote:
Tazer_Gunshot Wrote:
II'd like the inclusion of Jarek, but, nothing to do with Kanos abilities. Since we have Cassie, there is a good chance we will be given Kano.
Jarek should have a whole new array of specials even with the addition of the 3 variations.


Aged Kano would be awesome.


Exactly! He would have to be, unless he'll be a liitle more...cyborg-ish smile
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Jaded-Raven
07/10/2014 07:00 PM (UTC)
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I hope Kano gets killed off and stays out of MKX, and that Jarek will be his replacement with a new look and new moves.
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SwingBatta
07/10/2014 07:22 PM (UTC)
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If Kano is included with Cassie in MKX, it's going to make Sonya look like one hell of an incompetent schmuck.
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Jaded-Raven
07/10/2014 07:33 PM (UTC)
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SwingBatta Wrote:
If Kano is included with Cassie in MKX, it's going to make Sonya look like one hell of an incompetent schmuck.


Well, maybe she is. I mean, she's been hunting Kano since the first game, and with no luck. For a special forces lady, she does indeed seem incompetent.
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Wanderer
07/10/2014 09:00 PM (UTC)
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StrykerKombat Wrote:
Wanderer Wrote:
I highly doubt we'll ever see Jarek again. At this point he's probably dethroned Stryker as most hated MK character.


Stryker has a good and growing fan base, sounds like you're stuck in 1995 :/


Why else do you think I said dethroned?
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Jaded-Raven
07/10/2014 09:10 PM (UTC)
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Wanderer Wrote:
StrykerKombat Wrote:
Wanderer Wrote:
I highly doubt we'll ever see Jarek again. At this point he's probably dethroned Stryker as most hated MK character.


Stryker has a good and growing fan base, sounds like you're stuck in 1995 :/


Why else do you think I said dethroned?


If anyone has "dethroned" Stryker from being the most hated MK character, it would be Hsu Hao. Even before MK9, people talked about this. That said, Jarek, Kira and Kobra was right down there with them.

But Stryker became quite popular in MK9. So there's a chance such will happen to any of the other lesser liked characters.
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ShujinkoX
07/10/2014 09:10 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
SwingBatta Wrote:
If Kano is included with Cassie in MKX, it's going to make Sonya look like one hell of an incompetent schmuck.


Well, maybe she is. I mean, she's been hunting Kano since the first game, and with no luck. For a special forces lady, she does indeed seem incompetent.


Let's hope that after many failed attempts from Sonya, Kano finally gets his chance and succeeds in killing her.
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