I think its time for another one of those unpopular thoughts/nonjudgmental threads for MKX:D
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posted02/23/2015 05:52 AM (UTC)by
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These threads are great!

Ok, I don't care for Quan Chis "summoner" variation. Those bats are kinda lame and it reminds me of Scorpions "inferno" variation. I mean how many demons are you going to summon from hell right? Though for some reason I don't mind Scorpions..

Oh and those violet skulls are going to take some getting used to lol

The whole aging think with Kano, Kung Lao and probably some others lead me to believe that these characters will eventually die. FOR GOOD. I don't know if I'm good with that. That bothers me.

KITANA IS FREAKIN AWESOME!!!!!! (Oh crap, that's actually a popular thought haha)

I don't want Shang Tsung in this time unless they do him right. As in way better fatalities than his MK9 crap and his ability to shape shift into ANY fighter on the spot during gameplay. His shape shifting ability is all too important and one of the most interesting things about him to just leave out. If this doesn't happen, I mean I've got love for you Shang but sorry!

Ok your turn!

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Blade4693
01/20/2015 06:49 PM (UTC)
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Hm let me think...

Idk I don't have really any complaints at this point, I guess I could say im not a fan of old man Lao with facial hair, but that's trivial and doesn't matter a whole lot to me.

Oh I know, Sub-Zero's mask in Unbreakable. I don't like that at all, it doesn't look right to me for some reason lol
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SHAMEonNINJAS
01/20/2015 06:56 PM (UTC)
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Minor gripes, I think everything looks fantastic so far.

The bat is kinda dumb. I don't mind the summon assist, it makes sense. But of all the things in the netherrealm you summon a bat? Why lol

Kano doesn't look that old lol. He looks older in mk1. Not a big fan of the stoplight theme either. I like the commando variation but the red laser eye man c'mon.

Some of the things they do to distinguish variations is kinda annoying but it won't take long to get used to. I hope they do more of the simple ones, like hood less Devorah or just an amulet on subzero.

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Lokheit
01/20/2015 06:57 PM (UTC)
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whatuknowaboutMK? Wrote:

The whole aging think with Kano, Kung Lao and probably some others lead me to believe that these characters will eventually die. FOR GOOD. I don't know if I'm good with that. That bothers me.


Tekken has a huge lot of characters on their 40s/50s fighting like in their prime. I think this generational jump will stop here for a while (next few games will be around the same time period after this big 25 years leap, like happened with Tekken 3) and most classic characters will still be able to fight as bad-ass veterans schooling the new kids.
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01/20/2015 07:00 PM (UTC)
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^I really hope you're right Lokheit. That's awesome when you put it that way.
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KungLaodoesntsuck
01/20/2015 07:17 PM (UTC)
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Couple big things for me, that'll just become afterthoughts when I finally play the game.

Visual cues with Variations -

Do they think we're stupid or something? That we can't just look under the character's name to see what variation they're using? Because now if I want to play with Cassie in shades, I HAVE to use Hollywood. Even if I like Brawler, it doesn't matter. Will MK ever get some form of customization to fix this problem?

Interactables -

This just seems unnecessary as a whole. It was better in Injustice.
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Tazer_Gunshot
01/20/2015 07:18 PM (UTC)
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No complaints here.

If Shang is in and he has the ability to morph into all characters, I just wonder how are they going to incorporate him changing into Ferra/Torr?
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01/20/2015 07:23 PM (UTC)
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Tazer_Gunshot Wrote:
No complaints here.

If Shang is in and he has the ability to morph into all characters, I just wonder how are they going to incorporate him changing into Ferra/Torr?


Well, I guess I didn't take that 2 in 1 character into consideration. DUN DUN DUNNNNNN.
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Tazer_Gunshot
01/20/2015 07:29 PM (UTC)
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whatuknowaboutMK? Wrote:
Tazer_Gunshot Wrote:
No complaints here.

If Shang is in and he has the ability to morph into all characters, I just wonder how are they going to incorporate him changing into Ferra/Torr?


Well, I guess I didn't take that 2 in 1 character into consideration. DUN DUN DUNNNNNN.


Lol. If they go the MK9 route and he's only able to morph by using his soul steal special, then I can see it happening.
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01/20/2015 07:31 PM (UTC)
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I would have liked Quan Chi's Summoner variation better if each attack had a different summoned monster. However, if they had done it that way, then there would be no element of surprise; the monster's appearance would instantly telegraph what he's going to do next, while having one monster that could do any one of three things keeps the opponent guessing, which is the whole point. I suppose then, that the only way to improve it would be to make the Bat Out of Hell look a little more intimidating.

As for Shang Tsung's morphs... they couldn't possibly make him be able to change into everyone on the roster. Unless you want to wait about 15 minutes for the match to load, because you're asking them to load every single character's model, sounds, and movements into memory. They did the best they could with him in MK9, guys. You can mirror match your opponent with more power, which is the kind of psychological tactic you could expect from Shang's character anyway. And to turn him into a sub-boss, they used the two Tag Team slots to make it possible to load more characters. Frankly, I think that was an ingenious solution, and some people don't seem to understand or appreciate the care that went into giving their fans a morphable Shang Tsung.

Besides, can you imagine having to memorize all the unique codes it would take to let him morph into the whole character roster? MK3 was bad enough, and if you just pick a few favorites to memorize then you don't need the whole roster anyway. Do you realize what it means for matchups when you can counter-pick any character your opponent chooses in the middle of the match? An infinitely versatile character like that would be broken.

Except for that stupid Joker fatality, MK9 Shang was great. I have no real preference for whether he comes back or not, but I see no reason to be disappointed with his abilities.
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01/20/2015 07:36 PM (UTC)
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Not a FAN of Kitana's bottom half Are they pants tucked into her boots with slits on the sides or fabric wrapped around her thighs?

I think the 3 variations will be wasted on 99% of gamers
Most will try all 3 then pick a variation and stick with it. Only tournament players will use all three.
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smokeman14
01/20/2015 07:40 PM (UTC)
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Kitana is a waste of a character slot

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Blade4693
01/20/2015 07:44 PM (UTC)
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You would have to memorize the inputs for every character, but then comes the problem could he morph into every character and each variation as well? Imagine trying to memorize every single character morph with separate inputs for every variation as well, it would be ludicrous. They could limit him to one variation, but how would they choose? Not everybody is going to like every variation so some people might be happy, but some would be upset. It would really just be a huge mess IMO.

Easiest thing to do is have it so he can only morph into the opponent with the buffs like in MK9.
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01/20/2015 07:46 PM (UTC)
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Blade4693 Wrote:
You would have to memorize the inputs for every character, but then comes the problem could he morph into every character and each variation as well? Imagine trying to memorize every single character morph with separate inputs for every variation as well, it would be ludicrous They could limit him to one variation, but how would they choose? Not everybody is going to like every variation so some people might be happy, but some would be upset. It would really just be a huge mess IMO.

Easiest thing to do is either have it so he can only morph into the opponent with the buffs like in MK9.

Yeah, that too.
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I think the 3 variations will be wasted on 99% of gamers
Most will try all 3 then pick a variation and stick with it. Only tournament players will use all three.


I doubt that a full 99% of gamers are so uninterested in variety that they'll never mix up the variations. The people I play with, we random select everything, because it's more fun to us that way.

It seems more likely that the reverse would be more common: certain variations will be so weak and/or bland and/or difficult to use well that they will be mostly ignored, with players mostly swapping back and forth between the other two for variety. It's the tournament players who would be more apt to stick to one, most useful variation (unless a character has two or three of the "most useful" variations in the game).
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01/20/2015 07:46 PM (UTC)
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smokeman14 Wrote:
Kitana is a waste of a character slot

fight me


Well smokeman14, this would be the right thread to say this. Why though? Just curious.

As far as Shang Tsung's morphing abilities go, I feel like I might have been spoiled in MK3. Ever since then it's just been an expectation I guess. I see what you mean though.
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01/20/2015 07:48 PM (UTC)
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I think the one thing I dislike the most is Ferra/Torr, not sure why exactly but something about them just rubs me the wrong way. Which is weird because normally I love big brute characters like Torr but I'm just not feeling it in MKX.

Maybe I'll warm up to the thought of more big brutes in the game after we see some Goro gameplay.
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Blade4693
01/20/2015 07:54 PM (UTC)
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Ironically I am quite the opposite, I usually don't like hulking brute characters, but for some reason I like Ferra/Torr lol

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01/20/2015 08:05 PM (UTC)
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BADASS6669 Wrote:
Not a FAN of Kitana's bottom half Are they pants tucked into her boots with slits on the sides or fabric wrapped around her thighs?

I think the 3 variations will be wasted on 99% of gamers
Most will try all 3 then pick a variation and stick with it. Only tournament players will use all three.



I'm also not a fan of the bottom half of Kitana's costume. I don't like the back of her costume either. There are several little things I would change about her costume, her fans being one of them, but overall a really interesting new look for Kitana.
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Tazer_Gunshot
01/20/2015 09:50 PM (UTC)
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Blade4693 Wrote:
Ironically I am quite the opposite, I usually don't like hulking brute characters, but for some reason I like Ferra/Torr lol



Brutes rule and they bring good to games, especially to MK. A big difference from playing as a normal sized character.
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01/20/2015 11:23 PM (UTC)
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I really don't feel it was necessary to bring Kano into MKX. Never cared for the character.

I really don't like that his variation visual cues make him look like a stoplight.
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01/21/2015 12:23 AM (UTC)
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When I first saw Quan Chi's summoner variation I really thought it was just a lame bat-thing, but on closer inspection it's a very detailed demon. Of course, I would have expected skeletons but this is nice too I guess.

I never really knew how unpopular Kano was, is it because this gameplay wasn't really appealing to the competitive scene, same with Shang?

The game-play and designs choices look simply amazing, no complains there what so ever.

On what bothers me, as I have mentioned before, it's the possibility of shitty story writing and continuity issues, also I expect most classic characters to take a break from this title. Hoping for good explanations, relevant to the plot, as to why some characters from MK9 will be back and others wont.
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01/21/2015 12:33 AM (UTC)
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Cassie is kinda lacking in the grappling department for her brawler variation.
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Tazer_Gunshot
01/21/2015 12:33 AM (UTC)
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Actually I do have a tidbit. Cassie using her gun in her X-ray as to popping her opponent with a bullet.

septillion Wrote:
I really don't feel it was necessary to bring Kano into MKX. Never cared for the character.

I really don't like that his variation visual cues make him look like a stoplight.


A lot of people don't like the "variation visual cues" of Kano, you are not the only one. All I got to say is...GET OVER IT!
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01/21/2015 01:35 AM (UTC)
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I hate that we can't kill Ferra dang it lol that is my tidbit.grin
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Darkk
01/21/2015 02:59 AM (UTC)
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Ferra's going to get very annoying.
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