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06/11/2014 04:31 PM (UTC)
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im hoping we get a bunch of dlc characters as well
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SmashK
06/11/2014 05:39 PM (UTC)
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NRS has to be aware of how badly Capcom alienated casual and hardcore fans with SF3, and I hope they don't make the same mistake.

Aside from the massive over-saturation of Street Fighter at the time, both casuals and hardcore fans alike didn't recognize the game.

If NRS opts to add more new characters to the roster than old favorites, then I hope the old favorites will be brought back via DLC so that....in the end...everyone is happy, and everything is in balance.

Because MKX is pretty fucking out of balance at the moment!
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06/11/2014 06:56 PM (UTC)
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T-rex Wrote:
>you people



Just because Sindel was introduced earlier does not instantly make her a better character.


That's exactly what it means. Any of the characters in first 4 games are
more worthy than anyone introduced after that. Simply because they are, for lack of a better term, "OG" characters.

I apologize for not putting this in the right thread, I just did it quickly after I saw the poll results.


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06/11/2014 06:59 PM (UTC)
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wdm6789 Wrote:

T-rex Wrote:
>you people



Just because Sindel was introduced earlier does not instantly make her a better character.


That's exactly what it means. Any of the characters in first 4 games are
more worthy than anyone introduced after that. Simply because they are, for lack of a better term, "OG" characters.

I apologize for not putting this in the right thread, I just did it quickly after I saw the poll results.

I see now, Jarek is much more worthy than Kenshi. How could have I been so blind?
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06/11/2014 07:01 PM (UTC)
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I'm all for new characters or any characters introduced post MK4. Only because I'm so over playing with characters from MK1-3... We need a break from them. Seriously.
I know they are people's favorites... But people need to give new characters a chance. This is why MK recycles classic characters all the time. Its getting boring.
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06/11/2014 07:16 PM (UTC)
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fijikungfu Wrote:
wdm6789 Wrote:

T-rex Wrote:
>you people



Just because Sindel was introduced earlier does not instantly make her a better character.


That's exactly what it means. Any of the characters in first 4 games are
more worthy than anyone introduced after that. Simply because they are, for lack of a better term, "OG" characters.

I apologize for not putting this in the right thread, I just did it quickly after I saw the poll results.

I see now, Jarek is much more worthy than Kenshi. How could have I been so blind?


Good point, there are a few exceptions, but very few.

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06/11/2014 07:39 PM (UTC)
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SmashK Wrote:
NRS has to be aware of how badly Capcom alienated casual and hardcore fans with SF3, and I hope they don't make the same mistake.

Aside from the massive over-saturation of Street Fighter at the time, both casuals and hardcore fans alike didn't recognize the game.

If NRS opts to add more new characters to the roster than old favorites, then I hope the old favorites will be brought back via DLC so that....in the end...everyone is happy, and everything is in balance.

Because MKX is pretty fucking out of balance at the moment!


While I was freaking out last night about this I feel better. The lead designer stated there will be "lots more" when talking about returnees. So I wouldn't worry. They know it wouldn't be wise to have way too many new characters. At the end of the day it's best to showcase the new characters now because hype is at an all time high and they get the spotlight. It probably wouldn't be the same if the likes of Tanya or Fujin were revealed along with them because most of us would be going on about those two. So introducing a number of the new characters now to drum up interest in them and then revealing the returnees later is probably what they're doing. I can't see this game NOT having established characters outside of Scorp & Subby.

I'm sure it'll be a decent balance similar to the likes of Deadly Alliance & Deception.
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06/11/2014 07:51 PM (UTC)
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@Professerahnka What you say makes sense. Good reasoning. I really hope you're right.
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06/11/2014 07:52 PM (UTC)
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I hope I'm right too tongue

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06/11/2014 08:06 PM (UTC)
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honestly i don't think we getting alot of retuning characters maybe some but not alot like certain characters that can go with the story for story mode and what have you
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06/11/2014 08:16 PM (UTC)
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SmashK Wrote:
NRS has to be aware of how badly Capcom alienated casual and hardcore fans with SF3, and I hope they don't make the same mistake.


Actually, we don't even have to go outside the franchise to look at something else that alienated a lot of folks.

Deception did something -very- similar to an almost uncanny degree. It axed virtually the entire roster from Deadly Alliance (only six were carried over) in favor of a bunch of copycats, both old and new characters alike. The game paid dreadfully for it because the dev team at the time didn't realize that they couldn't exactly cut and paste the fighting stances willy nilly like they did.

Since NRS has a lot more technical prowess and freedom under Warner than the Midway team did ten years ago, taking a "Tekken 3" approach to the franchise may not be such a catastrophe like it was the last time they tried a similar stunt.
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06/11/2014 10:00 PM (UTC)
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wdm6789 Wrote:

fijikungfu Wrote:
wdm6789 Wrote:

T-rex Wrote:
>you people



Just because Sindel was introduced earlier does not instantly make her a better character.


That's exactly what it means. Any of the characters in first 4 games are
more worthy than anyone introduced after that. Simply because they are, for lack of a better term, "OG" characters.

I apologize for not putting this in the right thread, I just did it quickly after I saw the poll results.

I see now, Jarek is much more worthy than Kenshi. How could have I been so blind?




Good point, there are a few exceptions, but very few.


That all depends on perspective. I think there are a lot of exceptions.
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06/11/2014 10:24 PM (UTC)
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I piss on the classic characters if need be. Seriously after more or less 9 fucking games, how many times do you want to see cyberninjas, spandex assassins, edenian night-butterflies in the same unchanged frame?

This is why video game stories in these particular cases will never truly be art. Not that they should be. But seriously, if MK were a series of books, then you bet your sweet virgin asses that most of the old guard would be eliminated without remorse.

You see, a true story requires something called suspense of disbelief, and I find it egregious that the same people constantly show up virtually unchanged, episodically going through whatever the current excuse is for this installment.

When DOA actually completes a characters arc, in the case of Gen Fu, and when a game that is more or less aboob physics simulator does more than getting a charactyer from A to B, there really is a problem.

Some of us have not only grown tired of the old guard, but downright despise (as much as you can despise a fictional character, but you geet my meaning) the characters.

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06/11/2014 10:53 PM (UTC)
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Confirmation: this game is going to introduce the most new characters out of all the games.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8NAP--4IcQ
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06/11/2014 11:05 PM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
I piss on the classic characters if need be. Seriously after more or less 9 fucking games, how many times do you want to see cyberninjas, spandex assassins, edenian night-butterflies in the same unchanged frame?

This is why video game stories in these particular cases will never truly be art. Not that they should be. But seriously, if MK were a series of books, then you bet your sweet virgin asses that most of the old guard would be eliminated without remorse.

You see, a true story requires something called suspense of disbelief, and I find it egregious that the same people constantly show up virtually unchanged, episodically going through whatever the current excuse is for this installment.

When DOA actually completes a characters arc, in the case of Gen Fu, and when a game that is more or less aboob physics simulator does more than getting a charactyer from A to B, there really is a problem.

Some of us have not only grown tired of the old guard, but downright despise (as much as you can despise a fictional character, but you geet my meaning) the characters.



The characters from MK1-MK3 I can do without.

It's MK4-MKD that I desire, specifically Tanya, Bo' Rai Cho, and Havik. They are awesome.and have not been seen in ten years. They need a well due return.
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06/11/2014 11:51 PM (UTC)
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@Chrome

I just came in to post this. LOL!

So, the most ever introduced in one game is 8, which means we'll get at least 9 new characters in MKX. That's more than 1/3rd of the base roster. Should be very interesting.
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06/12/2014 12:20 AM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
Confirmation: this game is going to introduce the most new characters out of all the games.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8NAP--4IcQ
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Most MK games (main ones, excluding UMK3/Trilogy/Gold) had new characters filling about a third to a half of the roster. I'd guess we're getting 12-16 new if the roster stays at 24 characters.
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06/12/2014 12:43 AM (UTC)
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It's really irritating when people make topics like this. What will they get? You could have managed to fit it in the title lol. Mini rant over. Edit: Wow my bad lol I was totally looking at a different topic while bashing yours. I have message board dyslexia apparently lol.
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06/12/2014 01:01 AM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
I piss on the classic characters if need be. Seriously after more or less 9 fucking games, how many times do you want to see cyberninjas, spandex assassins, edenian night-butterflies in the same unchanged frame?

This is why video game stories in these particular cases will never truly be art. Not that they should be. But seriously, if MK were a series of books, then you bet your sweet virgin asses that most of the old guard would be eliminated without remorse.

You see, a true story requires something called suspense of disbelief, and I find it egregious that the same people constantly show up virtually unchanged, episodically going through whatever the current excuse is for this installment.

When DOA actually completes a characters arc, in the case of Gen Fu, and when a game that is more or less aboob physics simulator does more than getting a charactyer from A to B, there really is a problem.

Some of us have not only grown tired of the old guard, but downright despise (as much as you can despise a fictional character, but you geet my meaning) the characters.



But it is NOT a series off books, it is a fighting game. But I get it. You guys want change? Well we're damn sure getting it. Let's just hope that they don't screw it up this time..
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06/12/2014 01:14 AM (UTC)
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Hey guys, sorry is this has already been said didn't skim through the whole thing. Ed has now confirmed this game will probably have the most new characters of any MK game. So right off the bat we can pretty much assume it's a minimum of 10.
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06/12/2014 01:33 AM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
When DOA actually completes a characters arc, in the case of Gen Fu, and when a game that is more or less aboob physics simulator does more than getting a charactyer from A to B, there really is a problem.
Gen Fu is still in DOA though.
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06/12/2014 01:47 AM (UTC)
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stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:
Hey guys, sorry is this has already been said didn't skim through the whole thing. Ed has now confirmed this game will probably have the most new characters of any MK game. So right off the bat we can pretty much assume it's a minimum of 10.


And I bet all but 3 of them will be dropped come MK11 LMAO

Oh well, I'm still loving all the newbies so far so I won't sweat it too much.
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