Icebaby Wrote:
Mortal Kombat is a game about beating people senseless to the death and brutally mutilating your opponent in a way of victory.
If you want to decode it's secret political message it apparently hides, please tell me you don't own a gun. I don't want to end up like John Lennon.
Fuck, I lol'd at this post. Nice.
(I completely agree with you, in case you were thinking that I'm being sarcastic)
Windy_Thunderstorm Wrote:
Thankyou! I have no idea how he/she came to such a conclusion. I am not pretending that the bad apples don't exist, I was simply stating that they are not going about their goal the right way or are simply misguided in what fighting for rights really means.
It pisses me off that people try to use the bad apples as an excuse to disregard the group as a whole.
You'd understand the conclusion if you read my post with an open mind.
You basically disregard yourselves when you do nothing about the bad ones. You're effectively saying "I condone this blatant sexism."
Before I get to the true meat and potatoes here, I'd like to announce to the thread that my favorite kind of cookie is the snickerdoodle.
I got a PM from someone who wants to play ball, so let's play:
FerraTorr Wrote:
Uh uh, hold up.
No.
Intellectually dishonest jackwagons like you like to cherry pick feminists who are actually bigoted against men and use those examples to discredit feminism as a whole. Feminism is not anti-man, even if a certain subset of feminists ARE anti-men. Feminism is about equality and fighting restrictive gender roles that people are forced and shamed into in general. As a man I have been gender shamed throughout my life for being too emotional or for not being macho enough. Those standards of behavior based on gender roles that people are harassed and shamed into adhering to come from patriarchy.
A large part of why I am a male feminist is because as a male I want to have the freedom to be who I am without being harassed and degraded for not following into macho ideals of male behavior.
Ok, I see feminists such as yourself talk frequently about gender equality and helping both men and women succeed. I'm going to (politely) ask you to put up or shut up. Find me some things that modern feminists (and when I say feminists, I
strictly mean feminists and feminists only since that's who we're discussing) have done to end inequalities that men face (with sources), such as forced circumcision, preferential treatment towards women in divorce cases, shorter prison sentences for women for the same crimes, and men being forced to register for selective services if they want to vote. Go ahead. I'll wait.
While you're doing that, and you're going to be looking for a while since such cases don't exist, allow me to remind you that feminists recently were instrumental in getting a law passed in the UK (
source) that makes men who are accused of rape guilty until proven innocent. Let's also not forget the ones who kidnapped priests, which is appalling to me and I'm an atheist. Funny how there was not a peep from the alleged "good" feminists decrying those actions... and I'm the one who's intellectually dishonest here? Sure guy. It's comical how you are guys are supposedly for free thought yet you bash people for not thinking like you do. You want the freedom for yourself because it suits you, but heaven forbid those masculine men hold that belief because to you, it's toxic. I on the other hand believe that all people should be free to live how they choose.
Patriarchy? Don't make me laugh. You're aware that women can do everything men can in terms of holding positions of power, right? Not only that, they can vote, drive, own property, and hold office! Hell, we might even have a female US President by the end of the 2016 elections. If women want to be in power, they're more than welcome to try and get elected. In fact, I support it. I do believe that a woman could be an effective president. I don't know that it'll be Hillary Clinton, but it's well within reason for a woman to do a very effective job as president. I believe this as an egalitarian because all demographics are equal to me... but I digress. You're not oppressed, first world women are definitely not oppressed, and you really need to understand that.
Now, on to your situation growing up. I'll be honest, I got picked on sometimes when I was younger and called a puss because I wasn't doing supposedly macho things like drinking my parents' liquor, dating, or drugs. That wasn't me. I was the skinny yet somewhat athletic nerd who was very emotional and not afraid to show it. I was in and out of therapy in my teens for struggling with my family falling apart and I frequently came to tears in school, which was pretty embarrassing. I did not, however, feel forced into acting a certain way, because what the whole experience taught me is that I shouldn't care so much about what other people think. Even when I was down, I stuck to who I was as a person. Since you write well enough, I'm going to assume that you're at an age where you can make decisions for yourself. If that's the case, why do you still feel shamed and forced into gender roles? The shame that you feel is only feeding into the stereotypes because you think you might feel better if you be like everyone else. So as a piece of life advice from a guy who's worn those shoes before: don't try to please everyone, no matter what the context. You're only going to make yourself more pressured and potentially depressed. Understand that what's manly in your youth is definitely not manly in adulthood, but again, why even try to measure your life against that standard?
I wasn't even going to respond to you in the first place since others have already done the job for me and I'm quite frankly tired of talking to a bunch of brick walls at this point. Since you had the balls to PM me (which I 100% respect), though, I decided to humor you. I do hope your life improves to a point where you'd stop blaming everyone else for your own angst against men and make the changes you need to become happier.
If anyone else wants a go, I'm sorry but I'll be forced to disappoint. I won't be reading this thread any further nor will I be responding to PMs on the subject. So on second thought, FerraTorr, don't bother searching for stuff. I don't want you to waste your time.
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