Ferra/Torr story and alignment
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posted12/03/2014 01:57 AM (UTC)by
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BlackDragonThug
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11/23/2014 06:54 AM (UTC)
The more I watch of Ferra and Torr, the more intrigued I am. I like the way Ferra speaks, as it is different from most in the MK universe. I'm not entirely sure where I'd say they are from but, without considering the fact that they could be from somewhere new, I'd say Outworld. What do you guys think?

Also, I read some of the dialogue between them and Kotal Kahn, which implies that they could be from the same race and were possibly oppressed by Kahn.

I'd love to hear your thoughts, guys.
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cpleck
12/02/2014 01:27 PM (UTC)
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I have also been wondering about this. My best guess is that they're from Outworld, but they could also be from a yet to be disclosed realm. They seem like a chaotic/neutral type of character who isn't only out for themselves. They could possibly be the leader of some type of resistance to Kotal's rule.
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BlackDragonThug
12/02/2014 02:28 PM (UTC)
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I completely agree. They have that anarchistic vibe to them, like they could be freedom fighters or something. If that is their gimmick, I think there is some longevity in it, as the realms are always being threatened by some tyrant and there is always the chance for certain races to be enslaved or exterminated. It ma be too early to tell but I think that could make them mainstay characters, rather than just one and done types, you know? I really dig their interactions with each other to because they seem like they are legitimate partners and not just people using one another the way people like Quan Chi and Scorpion are. It would suck if Netherrealm goes the obvious route and has one kill the other in the ending. I hope that isn't the case sleep

Any chance they could be from the Chaosrealm? I'm leaning towards Outworld for sure but the mention of Havik in MK:2011 makes me wonder if they had/have big plans for the Chaosrealm. Would be great if it had a less generic sounding name but whatever, lol.
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Blade4693
12/02/2014 03:03 PM (UTC)
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I don't think we have to worry about them turning on each other. One of the victory poses and one of the round victory poses makes me think they are buddies. Now I could see one of them being killed off, but I hope that doesn't happen either.
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12/02/2014 03:11 PM (UTC)
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I wonder why NRS wants Torr's identity a secret but anyways I can't wait to see how their story is.
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12/02/2014 04:26 PM (UTC)
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nightbreed_16 Wrote:
I wonder why NRS wants Torr's identity a secret but anyways I can't wait to see how their story is.


I know that this is a stretch, but I'll say it anyways. If you look at a picture of Torr where you can see his one eye through the slit in his hood, it looks just like Shao Kahn's. I am in no way saying that Torr is Kahn, but what if they come from the same race of beings? Just a thought.
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12/02/2014 04:49 PM (UTC)
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Going by the intro between them and Quan Chi, they don't remember who they or where they're from. So that's probably they're whole story, trying to figure out where they're from.
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BlackDragonThug
12/02/2014 05:15 PM (UTC)
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I heard the "Torr might be Kahn" theory a few days ago. I don't know, I think anything is possible but they'd have to explain a lot with that. Torr seems to be hunched over often, whereas Kahn had damn near perfect posture. Torr's also a lot more bulky, as opposed to Kahn who was a wall of muscle. I'd rather Reiko return and be revealed as Kahn in this timeline instead of Torr being the remains of Kahn after his punishment from the Elder gods. I like Torr being his own separate character but the "We don't remember" thing does intrigue me. I wish the videos for those interactions would drop already!
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sharefrock
12/02/2014 05:42 PM (UTC)
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BlackDragonThug Wrote:
I heard the "Torr might be Kahn" theory a few days ago. I don't know, I think anything is possible but they'd have to explain a lot with that. Torr seems to be hunched over often, whereas Kahn had damn near perfect posture. Torr's also a lot more bulky, as opposed to Kahn who was a wall of muscle. I'd rather Reiko return and be revealed as Kahn in this timeline instead of Torr being the remains of Kahn after his punishment from the Elder gods. I like Torr being his own separate character but the "We don't remember" thing does intrigue me. I wish the videos for those interactions would drop already!


OMG Yes. that is a perfect Idea Reiko coming back as Shao Kahn, I don't mean he and Shao Kahn are the same person but I'd like to see them play the angle they teased in the past where Reiko is Shao Kahn and for a while a lot of people believed it to be true, so let Reiko return first wearing Shao Kahn's helmet and gear and let people think that Shao Kahn is back until he gets revealed to be Reiko and not Shao Kahn. I don't know something like that I sure hope they keep messing with people's head with the whole Reiko/Shao Kahn thing that started in MK4.
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BlackDragonThug
12/02/2014 05:48 PM (UTC)
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Dude, I remember when that theory first showed up around the Internet. It made a lot of sense and was quite interesting. They need to flesh Reiko out for sure. I wonder if people would piss on it if they made he and Kahn one in the same. Reiko is, after all, a member of the Brotherhood of Shadow. They could go the route of the Elder gods punishing Kahn by sending him to the Netherrealm, where he came in contact with Quan Chi and the Brotherhood of Shadows, which led to him taking up a new name (think Bi Han turning into Noob Saibot) and plotting to return and take his revenge.
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Blade4693
12/02/2014 06:01 PM (UTC)
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If anything I think Torr could POSSSIBLY be the same race as Kahn. I don't think Kahn is Torr. Another thing is even if he was Kahn there would be no need to hide Torr's face since we have never seen Kahn's actual face in the games, at least not that I remember.
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sharefrock
12/02/2014 06:06 PM (UTC)
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Blade4693 Wrote:
If anything I think Torr could POSSSIBLY be the same race as Kahn. I don't think Kahn is Torr. Another thing is even if he was Kahn there would be no need to hide Torr's face since we have never seen Kahn's actual face in the games, at least not that I remember.


Umm... Mortal kombat: Shaolin monks?
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Blade4693
12/02/2014 07:08 PM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:
Blade4693 Wrote:
If anything I think Torr could POSSSIBLY be the same race as Kahn. I don't think Kahn is Torr. Another thing is even if he was Kahn there would be no need to hide Torr's face since we have never seen Kahn's actual face in the games, at least not that I remember.


Umm... Mortal kombat: Shaolin monks?


Oh did we see his face in that game? I haven't played it in years so I don't really remember it well. Also, isn't that game considered non-canon to the regular MK games? It doesn't really matter though as I assume his face looks similar to how it did in MKSM. So I guess my point is moot, I still don't think its Kahn under there though.
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sharefrock
12/02/2014 07:35 PM (UTC)
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Blade4693 Wrote:
sharefrock Wrote:
Blade4693 Wrote:
If anything I think Torr could POSSSIBLY be the same race as Kahn. I don't think Kahn is Torr. Another thing is even if he was Kahn there would be no need to hide Torr's face since we have never seen Kahn's actual face in the games, at least not that I remember.


Umm... Mortal kombat: Shaolin monks?


Oh did we see his face in that game? I haven't played it in years so I don't really remember it well. Also, isn't that game considered non-canon to the regular MK games? It doesn't really matter though as I assume his face looks similar to how it did in MKSM. So I guess my point is moot, I still don't think its Kahn under there though.


Yeah I agree with you, I don't think it'll be Shao Kahn under there either there are just too many things that would suggest otherwise, For Example. I can't see Shao Kahn taking Orders from Anyone let alone a little lady.
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Mortanius
12/02/2014 07:44 PM (UTC)
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The more I see of Ferra/Torr the more they remind me of the relationship between Talia & Bane in Dark Knight Rises.

I'd be cool with NRS going that route with the two of them. Torr being the hulking protector who is a lot smarter than we think & Ferra being secretly a major player in the storyline.
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Blade4693
12/02/2014 08:02 PM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:
Blade4693 Wrote:
sharefrock Wrote:
Blade4693 Wrote:
If anything I think Torr could POSSSIBLY be the same race as Kahn. I don't think Kahn is Torr. Another thing is even if he was Kahn there would be no need to hide Torr's face since we have never seen Kahn's actual face in the games, at least not that I remember.


Umm... Mortal kombat: Shaolin monks?


Oh did we see his face in that game? I haven't played it in years so I don't really remember it well. Also, isn't that game considered non-canon to the regular MK games? It doesn't really matter though as I assume his face looks similar to how it did in MKSM. So I guess my point is moot, I still don't think its Kahn under there though.


Yeah I agree with you, I don't think it'll be Shao Kahn under there either there are just too many things that would suggest otherwise, For Example. I can't see Shao Kahn taking Orders from Anyone let alone a little lady.


Agreed, unless the elder gods did some kind of crazy voodoo to make it so he has to listen to her I cant see that either but even that wouldn't seem right lol. If anything I think he could be from the same race of people.

A little off topic but has it been clarified whether Ferra is a small woman or a kid yet? I know she has been referred to as a "Little lady" by one of the devs but that doesn't really do it for me. I have heard plenty of people call little kids "Little lady" or "little man" before.

Also it seems she doesn't get touched when others perform fatalities on ferra/torr which might hint that she is actually a kid, because I seriously doubt Boon and friends would allow a little girl to get carved up in fatalities and stuff lol

She talks like a child, she looks like a child, Torr even holds her hand like a child in a round victory pose, so I sort of think she might be a kid lol
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Stahlgeist
12/02/2014 08:22 PM (UTC)
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Shao Kahn was described in Deception as originally being an Outworld equivalent of Raiden, a protector god. The running theory seems to be that he was a god of war, given his role as an adviser to Onaga.

Unless Kahn was promoted to godhood from some mortal form, I highly doubt he would be of the same race as Torr.
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sharefrock
12/02/2014 08:58 PM (UTC)
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Blade4693 Wrote:
sharefrock Wrote:
Blade4693 Wrote:
sharefrock Wrote:
Blade4693 Wrote:
If anything I think Torr could POSSSIBLY be the same race as Kahn. I don't think Kahn is Torr. Another thing is even if he was Kahn there would be no need to hide Torr's face since we have never seen Kahn's actual face in the games, at least not that I remember.


Umm... Mortal kombat: Shaolin monks?


Oh did we see his face in that game? I haven't played it in years so I don't really remember it well. Also, isn't that game considered non-canon to the regular MK games? It doesn't really matter though as I assume his face looks similar to how it did in MKSM. So I guess my point is moot, I still don't think its Kahn under there though.


Yeah I agree with you, I don't think it'll be Shao Kahn under there either there are just too many things that would suggest otherwise, For Example. I can't see Shao Kahn taking Orders from Anyone let alone a little lady.


Agreed, unless the elder gods did some kind of crazy voodoo to make it so he has to listen to her I cant see that either but even that wouldn't seem right lol. If anything I think he could be from the same race of people.

A little off topic but has it been clarified whether Ferra is a small woman or a kid yet? I know she has been referred to as a "Little lady" by one of the devs but that doesn't really do it for me. I have heard plenty of people call little kids "Little lady" or "little man" before.

Also it seems she doesn't get touched when others perform fatalities on ferra/torr which might hint that she is actually a kid, because I seriously doubt Boon and friends would allow a little girl to get carved up in fatalities and stuff lol

She talks like a child, she looks like a child, Torr even holds her hand like a child in a round victory pose, so I sort of think she might be a kid lol


I also don't think Boon would allow a little girl to cut someone in half but ferra does that. so that pretty much points to her not being a little girl, also I don't get the vibe from her tone of voice that she is a little girl, I think if she was really a little girl and Boon would allow her to cut someone in half then he went on whole new different level of wrongness.
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RazorsEdge701
12/02/2014 09:08 PM (UTC)
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I think she's just a pygmy, not a kid.

Regarding her absence from X-Rays and Fatalities, that's probably because of the size of her body and the fact that you'd have to reanimate every single finisher in the game to attack two separate people if you didn't have them all just be done on Torr.

That's just common sense, guys.
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cpleck
12/02/2014 09:29 PM (UTC)
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Stahlgeist Wrote:
Shao Kahn was described in Deception as originally being an Outworld equivalent of Raiden, a protector god. The running theory seems to be that he was a god of war, given his role as an adviser to Onaga.

Unless Kahn was promoted to godhood from some mortal form, I highly doubt he would be of the same race as Torr.


It is a possibility though. Raiden looks like any regular earthrealm warrior.Why couldn't Torr kook like Kahn?
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Blade4693
12/02/2014 09:29 PM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:
Blade4693 Wrote:
sharefrock Wrote:
Blade4693 Wrote:
sharefrock Wrote:
Blade4693 Wrote:
If anything I think Torr could POSSSIBLY be the same race as Kahn. I don't think Kahn is Torr. Another thing is even if he was Kahn there would be no need to hide Torr's face since we have never seen Kahn's actual face in the games, at least not that I remember.


Umm... Mortal kombat: Shaolin monks?


Oh did we see his face in that game? I haven't played it in years so I don't really remember it well. Also, isn't that game considered non-canon to the regular MK games? It doesn't really matter though as I assume his face looks similar to how it did in MKSM. So I guess my point is moot, I still don't think its Kahn under there though.


Yeah I agree with you, I don't think it'll be Shao Kahn under there either there are just too many things that would suggest otherwise, For Example. I can't see Shao Kahn taking Orders from Anyone let alone a little lady.


Agreed, unless the elder gods did some kind of crazy voodoo to make it so he has to listen to her I cant see that either but even that wouldn't seem right lol. If anything I think he could be from the same race of people.

A little off topic but has it been clarified whether Ferra is a small woman or a kid yet? I know she has been referred to as a "Little lady" by one of the devs but that doesn't really do it for me. I have heard plenty of people call little kids "Little lady" or "little man" before.

Also it seems she doesn't get touched when others perform fatalities on ferra/torr which might hint that she is actually a kid, because I seriously doubt Boon and friends would allow a little girl to get carved up in fatalities and stuff lol

She talks like a child, she looks like a child, Torr even holds her hand like a child in a round victory pose, so I sort of think she might be a kid lol


I also don't think Boon would allow a little girl to cut someone in half but ferra does that. so that pretty much points to her not being a little girl, also I don't get the vibe from her tone of voice that she is a little girl, I think if she was really a little girl and Boon would allow her to cut someone in half then he went on whole new different level of wrongness.


Good point. She just seems really childlike to me lol

@Razorsedge: Yeah I know they would have had to make special animations for ferra/torr due to being two characters and all that good stuff.
That's most likely the main reason she isn't in x rays and fatalities, but I don't think that rules out the possibility of her being a kid. She most likely isn't a child because I could see people having issues with it , but based on what I have seen so far she seems like a child, or a very immature little woman lol
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sharefrock
12/02/2014 09:36 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
I think she's just a pygmy, not a kid.

Regarding her absence from X-Rays and Fatalities, that's probably because of the size of her body and the fact that you'd have to reanimate every single finisher in the game to attack two separate people if you didn't have them all just be done on Torr.

That's just common sense, guys.


Thanks captain Obvious are you going to tell us next that NRS didn't include Motaro in MK9 because it would mean they'll need to reanimate every Fatality and X-ray and probably create new fatalities that will work on Motaro not to mention most combos won't work on a 4-legged half-man half-horse.

It's very obvious that I didn't bother to mention it, it doesn't mean that I don't know that stuff. wow
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Blade4693
12/02/2014 09:41 PM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
I think she's just a pygmy, not a kid.

Regarding her absence from X-Rays and Fatalities, that's probably because of the size of her body and the fact that you'd have to reanimate every single finisher in the game to attack two separate people if you didn't have them all just be done on Torr.

That's just common sense, guys.


Thanks captain Obvious are you going to tell us next that NRS didn't include Motaro in MK9 because it would mean they'll need to reanimate every Fatality and X-ray and probably create new fatalities that will work on Motaro not to mention most combos won't work on a 4-legged half-man half-horse.

It's very obvious that I didn't bother to mention it, it doesn't mean that I don't know that stuff. wow


Lol that's what I wanted to say but I wasn't quite sure how to do it without seeming rude.
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Icebaby
12/02/2014 09:42 PM (UTC)
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I'm a bit irked that these two don't get talked a lot. I tried, but no one seemed interested. However, since the topic is back up, I'll join.

I hope these two are neutral, or if they are evil, they are kind of doing it out of survivalism. They'll work with whoever they're with just to keep alive.

I'll wait to see what their story is like when an actual bio is out. However, with their ending, I seriously hope (and I've stated this ever since) that they don't have Ferra being this all-mighty enslaver and Torr rises above her and kills her and becomes free from whatever grasp she had on him.

To be honest, I kinda hope they're siblings, it would be an interesting twist on them, and we don't really have that many siblings in this series anyways. What's the harm in having them be related?

That's all I really have to add to this.
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RazorsEdge701
12/02/2014 09:48 PM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:
Thanks captain Obvious are you going to tell us next that NRS didn't include Motaro in MK9 because it would mean they'll need to reanimate every Fatality and X-ray and probably create new fatalities that will work on Motaro not to mention most combos won't work on a 4-legged half-man half-horse.


I was answering Blade's post.

I have nothing to tell you.

Except maybe if you could give your mother a message for me?

Tell her I want a refund. She promised she didn't have Herpes. I don't appreciate the false advertising.
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