I understand the point. But I do think these are the most creative, brutal ones. I could use some magic and whatnot in them, but we haven't really seen much. We saw one fatality for each character. Six fatalities is all we've seen so far. Out of, about 60 that will be in the game. Minimum.
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06/12/2014 06:41 AM (UTC)
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I kind of agree. I mean they just seem to get more gory but not more interesting as time goes on. I think the X-Rays for the second game now will probably be more devastating and interesting than the fatalities.

I'm typically a fan of the quick and dirty fatality. My two all time favorites are Sonya's neck snap from MKvsDCU and her Wire decapitation from MK9.


Exactly what I think. The x-rays bring the "wow" in me more than the fatalities do.
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06/12/2014 08:15 AM (UTC)
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I think most of you forgot one important thing: the engine.

I remember Cyrax' nothing but net fatality in MK9. It wasn't really satisfying for me.

With engine they can do much more. Maybe there aren't any limits now? And we only see 6 out of ~50.

And i also remember in MK9. Scorpion had Quan Chi "on your knee"-fatality first. After complaints from the fans they gave it to Quan Chi and Scorpion get a new one: the portal fatality :) Time will tell.

But! I really like the fatalities. There are much better than almost everything i saw before. It's brutal and straight to the point. Sometimes with a nice touch of humor. I'm really satisfied with what i see :)

But i also understand the point. I hope like you we gonna see magical affected fatalities or even without blood (acid, fire etc.).
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06/12/2014 10:15 AM (UTC)
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I definitely disagree. I love what we've seen so far. Cassie's fatality was very creative and fun. Plus we haven't seem anything yet. Too soon to jump to conclusions.
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06/12/2014 11:11 AM (UTC)
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Have any videos of Cassies X-ray or Scorpions full fatality got out yet?
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06/12/2014 11:24 AM (UTC)
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I think Boon is really trying to not let those get out.
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06/12/2014 11:25 AM (UTC)
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Have any videos of Cassies X-ray or Scorpions full fatality got out yet?


Cassie's is pistol whipping you and kicking your dick to pieces. And I am not exaggerating with the last part.
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06/12/2014 11:27 AM (UTC)
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I think we're all becoming a bit desensitized to the idea of Fatalities in general. We've seen them for over 20 years. We've adjusted to the level of violence and expect them to pull out some crazy shit. Which they do deliver.

What you're saying is "We've seen it all before" and you'd be right for the most part. However, the fatalities in this game are much more gruesome and elaborate than we've ever seen. Each Fatality feels like a two-parter. Sub-Zero doesn't just blow a hole in your chest and back, he breaks your spine and rips you in half. Scorpion doesn't just blow a hole in your chest and back, he slices your face off.

And I personally love that.
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06/12/2014 11:43 AM (UTC)
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I wouldn't mind if the occasional Fatality is toned down. I've gotten bored of Fatalities a long time ago. Because you can only have a set amount of variations, of dismembering a human body. And I was never a fan of continuing to mutilate a body, after the first hit already killed them.

Take Scorpion's Fatality for example. His opponent already has a giant hole in his chest. Slicing the face off won't kill his opponent any harder. Dead is dead. You are just mutilating a corpse at that point.

Heck, I actually really like Cassie's Fatality. It's simple, fitting for the character, and she doesn't keep putting bullets in a corpse. It's two bullets to the knees, an execution style head shot, and then a bit of an insult at the end, with her covering up the bullet hole with her gum.

I'd actually love to see a lot of the old and simple Fatalities to return. Just more excitingly animated, with some nice cinematic camera angles.
I'm sorry to hear that Topic creator, maybe you should not use any fatalities then!
Or maybe even consider not buying MKX as Fatalities are the staple of the series.
Good day sir.
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06/12/2014 12:32 PM (UTC)
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I like all the fatalities Ive seen so far and I hope they dont take any of them out if people dont like some of them. U spent all that time making them, at least keep them in as a unlockable or something instead of just scratching them lol
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06/12/2014 02:25 PM (UTC)
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Fatalities are unique and detailed. I love them.
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06/12/2014 02:50 PM (UTC)
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Nathan Wrote:
I wouldn't mind if the occasional Fatality is toned down. I've gotten bored of Fatalities a long time ago. Because you can only have a set amount of variations, of dismembering a human body. And I was never a fan of continuing to mutilate a body, after the first hit already killed them.

Take Scorpion's Fatality for example. His opponent already has a giant hole in his chest. Slicing the face off won't kill his opponent any harder. Dead is dead. You are just mutilating a corpse at that point.

Heck, I actually really like Cassie's Fatality. It's simple, fitting for the character, and she doesn't keep putting bullets in a corpse. It's two bullets to the knees, an execution style head shot, and then a bit of an insult at the end, with her covering up the bullet hole with her gum.

I'd actually love to see a lot of the old and simple Fatalities to return. Just more excitingly animated, with some nice cinematic camera angles.


Cheers to that. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for something so nasty it makes me feel uncomfortable, but the concept of "finishing moves" isn't all there these days, largely replaced by minute-long torture porn fests. They used to just be a way to quickly kill an opponent. Not so now....but when it makes sense for the character to be sadistic I'm okay with it (I was a fan of Noob's bisection).
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06/12/2014 03:36 PM (UTC)
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Huh? These are some of the most disgusting and unique fatalities I've ever seen in an MK game. I'm not disappointed at all.


Agreed. Not sure where bubble gum full of blood popping has been done before...
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06/12/2014 04:03 PM (UTC)
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I'm enjoying them. Sure, some of them get tedious or leave you feeling "meh ", but there's still been quite a bit in MK9 that I thought were great. Kung Lao's, Noob's, Scorpion's portal etc.

I'm liking the ones we've seen in MKX so far. I feel they are very effectively done.

I also agree though with those that have said "there's only so many things you can do".
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06/12/2014 04:15 PM (UTC)
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Everyone is hyped by all these fatalities, but watch them get old right away once the game is out since a lot of online people just play to do them over and over again. It loses it's impact and people become desensitised. Especially when you have to wait for the fatality to finish to jump to the next match.
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06/12/2014 04:15 PM (UTC)
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I remember back when MK9 was announced, many were complaining about how fatalities only contained gore and were lacking where magic/sorcery was concerned.

I really like what I am seeing, though. The details are pretty sick and the fatalities fit the characters shown so far. I was particularly impressed with Cassie Cage's fatality which really fits her character and Scorpion's full fatality sounds pretty horrific. I just do hope that when characters like Shang Tsung, Nightwolf, Quan Chi, and Raiden are announced (assuming they made the cut), they have equally brutal fatalities that fit their characters and not necessarily involving gore and dismemberment.

Shang Tsung's soul steal fatality from MK2 is still one of the best fatalities in all of MK and should be brought back. I wouldn't mind seeing a modified version of his Kintaro morph fatality either, especially if Kintaro is excluded from the game. Nightwolf's sky beam fatality from MK3 was pretty badass and didn't involve any gore. I'd much rather see him have this instead of his decapitation fatality from MK9. Quan Chi and Raiden are among characters with the worst fatalities throughout all MK games. Quan Chi's leg rip fatality is a classic but it never really fit his character imo. His decapitation fatality in MK9 was pretty boring and lets not even mention his neck stretch fatality from DA, the most retarded fatality to date. Raiden's only decent fatality is the one he had in MK4, a simple electrocution.
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06/12/2014 04:25 PM (UTC)
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Reasons why I think the fatalities are awesome: Gore, personality, and humor.

-Scorpion: He's a ninja spectre with literally nothing to live for but revenge, so if someone got in his way, I feel like he wouldn't hold back with his brutality. Therefor, I find it fitting that he'd cut your face off after hilariously leaving your heart to dangle.

-Sub-Zero: Stoic, trained to kill, and pretty damn intimidating in past appearances. Never seems to have qualms with dirty work. Mixing his powers with physical savagery has kind-of always been his thing.

-Cassie: Cocksure and yet no-nonsense. An execution punctuated by an insult (and that facial animation) fits perfectly, imo.

-Kotal Kahn: He's a Kahn. Of course, he COULD just jam his surprisingly normal sized gauntlet through your chest, he opts to go a ceremonial route and let you suffer his blade before bathing in your blood. He may be a ruthless conqueror like his ancestor.

-Ferra/Torr: Torr's a lackey as far as we can tell and it's reflected in his role as the tool holding the victim while Ferra took the glory of the kill for herself.

-D'Vorah: She controls insect swarms, so why would she not have them eat someone's flesh? She strikes me as a diva type, so the head smash was fitting to me. An air of arrogance, if you will. Also, it may resemble Reptile's Face Eat fatality, but guess which one is better? Nostalgia won't help you here. D'Vorah's fatality is just cooler, bot in execution and presentation. I will say though, that there could have been a better option than eating holes in the chest first, but who knows. Maybe it fits her demeanor.
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06/12/2014 04:40 PM (UTC)
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I wouldn't mind if the occasional Fatality is toned down. I've gotten bored of Fatalities a long time ago. Because you can only have a set amount of variations, of dismembering a human body. And I was never a fan of continuing to mutilate a body, after the first hit already killed them.
Ugh, same. You're going to rip someone's arms off AFTER you've Game of Thrones'd their head? For what?
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06/12/2014 05:01 PM (UTC)
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Nathan Wrote:
I wouldn't mind if the occasional Fatality is toned down. I've gotten bored of Fatalities a long time ago. Because you can only have a set amount of variations, of dismembering a human body. And I was never a fan of continuing to mutilate a body, after the first hit already killed them.
Ugh, same. You're going to rip someone's arms off AFTER you've Game of Thrones'd their head? For what?


Yeah, that was a hiccup, unless Jax is really into desecrating corpses.


The problem with fatalities is very simple: the noveltz has worn off. MK can only increase the gore factor.


If you want the same kind of jawdroppers that shook basically an entire nation, then you need to go onto other taboos. What MKX seemingly will do to some extent by showing male genitalia being destroyed.
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06/12/2014 05:28 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, that was a hiccup, unless Jax is really into desecrating corpses.


The problem with fatalities is very simple: the noveltz has worn off. MK can only increase the gore factor.


If you want the same kind of jawdroppers that shook basically an entire nation, then you need to go onto other taboos. What MKX seemingly will do to some extent by showing male genitalia being destroyed.
He has been known to have some anger problems lol.

Truthfully the appeal for me with fatalities is simply killing your opponent, which I don't think happens enough in fiction. That's why I like the quick and dirty finishers, they, to me seem more appropriate after a long and brutal fight.
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06/12/2014 06:27 PM (UTC)
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xxxxftixxxx Wrote:The most boring so far has to be Cassie Cage. Simple point blank range shots then a headshot then stick bubble gum in the wound?! sleep



You didn't see Kotal Kahns Fatality then. It's just another Kano fatality idea.
Cassie however puts a fucking bubble gum into the head wound and it fucking inflates, which was unexpected at that. I fucking cringed. I respect your opinion, but I can't believe you think this is the boring one compared to Kahn.
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06/12/2014 06:47 PM (UTC)
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Everyone is hyped by all these fatalities, but watch them get old right away once the game is out since a lot of online people just play to do them over and over again. It loses it's impact and people become desensitised. Especially when you have to wait for the fatality to finish to jump to the next match.


Basically this. The novelty is going to wear off after a week or so. After that, people just use them as a online taunt. Oh congratulations, you killed me *stares at screen for 10 seconds*. I remember in King of The Hill, I didn't get a score from people because I didn't do a Fatality. Fuck my match performance though, right? My next match, I did a Fatality "YAAAAAY!". Ugh...>_>

I'm not saying I hate Fatalities and I want them removed, just saying that I can't believe that we are still negatively judging Fatalities when none of that is going to matter at least after a month. I remember Jax's MK9 fatality (you know which one) bugging me during it's development (and Ed Boon straight up saying "No" to changing it around). But now, I don't care anymore.
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06/16/2014 09:46 PM (UTC)
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So far so good for me. The only downside is the implement of the bubble gum in Cassies first Fatality...so stupid. It was a 'sick" fatality until I was that part.
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06/16/2014 09:51 PM (UTC)
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I understand theyre disgusting, look at the detail they can use now. Im simply implying that weve seen so many decaps,so many torso rips,..theyre not being very creative with the idea for the fatality.


One thing I can say is that MK3 had some of the most interesting fatalities of the series.

Of course, some of them existed purely for comical effect. To be honest, though, there's only so many ways you can kill a person within the allotted position.

MK9 surely had some awesome fatalities. Sektor's Scarecrow remains one of my favorites in the series. I do think there will be more interesting fatalities to come along; we just have to wait and see.

To say, I think D'Vorah's fatality is amazing.
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