NICE.

I enjoy Chrome's posts. This design is nice, too. But Chrome's post says it for me.

Pfft, agreeing with Chrome is one of the first symptoms of rabies. Who ever heard of a shirtless necromancer, it's ridiculous looking.

You know... like by definition all those medicine men and the shaman who consult the dead spirits, the ancient greek seer Pythia, the priests of Bonpo who are half shirted like the buddhist priests in Tibet...


But really aside the point, when have I ever shown open disrespect to you?

Razor's Edge wants to live in a magical fairy filled world where everything is great and no one ever says anything negative about anything. And until we find the equation in quantum physics that will teleport him there, we are not allowed to say anything negative in the meantime.
And before you retort and say I'm treating you unfairly or misinterpreting your intentions, I strongly suggest you remember your actions over the last few days.

I'm not allowed to crack a joke about how I think your opinions are loony unless you insulted me once? It's not like I said "you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny."

But hey, I've been here since before Deception came out and in all those years I don't remember us ever seeing eye to eye on anything MK related, so I'm sure I could find something that got a little too "personal" if I went searching...but I'm feeling lazy and not interested in derailing the thread any longer, so nah, I'm gonna settle for "I'm just criticizing your MKO posts, not taking a cheap shot."
Point is, Quan Chi is not some barbaric, tribal savage or voodoo priest. He's the cultured court mage, the grand vizier to the ruler of Hell. Running around bare chested is borderline out of character for him.
When Shang Tsung walks into battle in a sleeveless vest, it makes sense, because the man's history says he fought in a martial arts tournament for 500 years, so it's only natural that when he gets his youth back, and finds himself fighting in yet another tournament, he'd break out the old gear.
Quan Chi doesn't have that kind of history. He's a behind the scenes manipulator who doesn't like to get his hands dirty, he shouldn't be dressed for battle at all times. The only thing that stopped his MKDA costume from being just a mistake flat-out is that the reason they did it was to cover his body in new magical tattoos that were relevant to the plot, and show them off. Well he can't have those tattoos in prior games, and now that we've seen them, they're old news we no longer need to draw attention to. So for any game set before DA or after Armageddon, going back to a proper, sophisticated fully clothed look is the right thing to do and I for one very enthusiastically applaud Jax007's choice to take it even a step farther and give him the hood and robes that hide his legs, taking the medeival wizard look all the way.
It shows an understanding of the character that your own insights, on any character, almost always lack, Chrome. You simply never show much interest in knowing who the cast members of Mortal Kombat are which hurts your credibility when you criticize stuff.

I imagine it's pretty hot in hell. Especially when you're running from Scorpion. Nothing wrong with taking his shirt off.

But I do agree that a robed look is much more fitting for him. And I love this concept.

Well, Quan's an evolved Oni, one would expect demons to be a little heat resistant.

Teh... I expect Quan Chi to do that creepy "scrapping across the floor/floating on the tips of his toes" thing at some point.

Seeing him fully cloaked brings me closer to that sort of darkened, ominous sort of fantasy that I can imagine for him. This Quan Chi is about as perfect as it gets for a guy running around spinning deadly webs of deception, summoning skeletons, and crap like that.

Though I do liked the robes for Quan Chi, I don't mind him stripping off his shirt either. ;P

It's a cool design with lots of neat detail, but I wouldn't like to see him like this in-game. Maybe in cut scenes when he's actually doing some sorcery or something? That would be incredible and SOOO evil

When hes fighting he looks much better with less, so theres less holding him back. Even his MK4 costume looks silly watching him fight because of those big spiked clunky shoulder pads. He isnt one of the physically strongest fighters in the game so it makes more sense for him to wear less while fighting

Regardless of what Quan Chi's day job is, he's still also a fighter and participates in combat just like everyone else, even if he'd rather get his way through politics and sorcery (and does so probably 90% of the time).

So to say that fighting (read: engaging in "mortal c/kombat") barechested is "borderline out of character" for him is utter nonsense. He's a fighter, as well as a sorcerer. And thus it makes perfect sense to appear in stripped-down, minimalistic, barechested attire at times. (Not only that, he looks amazing in it. Though JAX007's rendition is incredible as well.)

And the idea that barechested fighting somehow indicates that he (or any other kombatant) is barbaric or a tribal savage is so wrong it's laughable. I'll make this short and sweet: Jax, Cage & Liu Kang versus Baraka & Reptile. This really doesn't need to be spelled out.

"He's in a fighting game, that automatically makes him a fighter" doesn't work as an argument. That's what someone says as an excuse so they don't have to think of the characters as individuals with diverse and unique personalities and backstories. Does that mean Raiden, Shinnok, and the Old Man version of Shang should all take their shirts off too since they're kung fu fighters in a fighting game?
Characters should dress in ways that fit them and emphasize what's unique about their character. Quan Chi's defining traits are that he's a cult leader and behind-the-scenes manipulator. He's a bit sophisticated and pretentious sounding when he talks at great length. The exact archetype who would wear fancy mage robes. Fists are a last resort for a dude like Quan Chi. He'd want to have someone like Scorpion, or Sareena, or a summoned skeleton even, to send at you instead of doing it himself.
Anyway, as for Johnny, Jax, and Liu, those are obviously characters dressed the way athletes commonly dress for combat sports in modern society. Quan, again, has nothing in common with them besides being in the same video game they are. None of the games he was in were tournaments, he doesn't dress for athletic competition, he dresses for sorcery - which is why he went shirtless in DA in the first place, because of the magic tattoos. But like I said, the tattoos only figure into the plot once. Before he gets them or once he's done with them, he can go back to the MK4 style of dress or something similar to it.
I feel like I just keep repeating myself. Must we do this? Jax007 wanted to draw Quan in robes and I love the way it looks because I think it fits the character perfectly. A LOT of other people appear to feel the same way. Chrome's point of view is the clear minority. That's all that really needs to be said.

We've seen Quan Chi fight (as in physical, martial arts style), just like every other MK character. Or have you forgotten the opening sequence to deadly alliance, deception and armageddon? He's a fighter, as well as a sorcerer - accept it and move on.



This isn't a question about what they should and should not do - it's about what makes sense logically. And because they're fighters (just like Quan Chi), then yes, it would be logical for them to appear shirtless. It might not be preferable to some, but that's getting into the realm of subjective opinion, not logic.

Maybe the only exception to this is elderly Shang Tsung - because out of all the MK characters, he's ONLY used magic, transformation and floating around to battle his oponents. But that's another argument.



You really are just grabbing at straws here. It's irrelevant whether he has competed in tournaments, or athletic competition - the fact of the matter is he fights, and with traditional martial arts as well.

Therefore, my point stands - it makes complete sense for him to appear shirtless and in more minimalist clothing. Just as much as it makes sense for him to be dressed as a sorcerer. They're both part of his character.



Because your perception of Quan Chi is flawed, and it's making you think illogically. And it's also making you belittle people who are just stating a subjective preference.

So...you're really going to stick with "A character has fought, and is in a fighting game, that means he should dress like fighting is his bread and butter" as an argument, huh?
AND you're going to tell me that I'm the one whose perception of a character is flawed.
Yeah, this conversation is never going to grow beyond this point. I'm out.

MANY fighting game characters wear robe-like outfits. And you don't even have to look very far... Just look at Shang Tsung in MK1 and MKDA-MKA.

Quan Chi has the power to summon a bunch of skeleton knights and skull barriers. We never saw this side of Quan Chi's Power in-game.

This version of Quan Chi would be more of a magic based fighter ala MK1 Shang Tsung and would showcase more of his abilities.

He "should" dress in a way that suits his character. If you can't accept the fact that he's a fighter, as well as being a sorcerer, you've got serious problems.



No, I'm saying it's very flawed.



Yup, that's your typical reaction when you can't handle being proven wrong. Have a nice day.

Wow. I've always been a Quan Chi fan, but this look is far and away better than anything we've ever seen in a game. Fantastic.

If I get this right, being a minority automatically makes my viewpoint and taste wrong.

Apparently we are only allowed to have one correct assesment and interpretation for everything, variety is a deviation from the norm and hence wrong.

I am not even going to adress this further, it is derogatory to Razor's own otherwise keen intellect.

Jax, on the other hand, you seem to only draw a select number of characters and most are repeated. There haven't been a Shang or a damn MKD character in your drawing since. Spice it up will you?

Quan chi losing his robes is a metaphor to him losing much of his power when he was captured by scorpion because there is an area of the netherrealm that drains sorcerer's powers. Quan chi is a mastermind and yes he may be a fighter, but the only noteable fights he has been in was in mkda because he was a boss and in mka because everybody was fighting. If you really think about it, Quan Chi is one of those villains who manipulates people and has minion to do his dirty work, hence his three assassins, which gives him less of a fighter persona an more of a behind the scenes kind of guy.

had to check out mmore of your work .... this is very good boss or not .... id rather see him like this

Fuckin sick look, its great. Except I don't like his torn cape, it doesnt match how clean and flawless the rest of the clothes look. Are we gonna get a shirtless or robeless version to show off the tattoos?