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07/25/2014 06:34 AM (UTC)
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The only good thing to come out of that phase is Reiko.


Agreed.
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Quanchi9
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07/25/2014 06:39 AM (UTC)
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I like them both equally, so coin flip time.

Fujin.
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Jaded-Raven
07/25/2014 06:45 AM (UTC)
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SwingBatta Wrote:
AgentK Wrote:
The only good thing to come out of that phase is Reiko.


Agreed.


And Tanya, imo.
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Napalm1980
07/25/2014 06:45 AM (UTC)
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Fujin
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DVorah
07/25/2014 06:53 AM (UTC)
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Fujin, I like Kenshi, but the Ermac/Kenshi thing makes me like him less than I would like Kenshi when Ermac wasn't around.

I love fujin's wind powers and I hope he gets an awesome new design in x.
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07/25/2014 09:15 AM (UTC)
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After a while, I've realized there isn't much of a need for another guy with telekinetic abilites, leave that one to Ermac, I honestly think that Kenshi shouldn't have the telekinesis, because it kinda ruins the whole purpose of Ermac.
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07/25/2014 09:18 AM (UTC)
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Quanchi9 Wrote:
After a while, I've realized there isn't much of a need for another guy with telekinetic abilites, leave that one to Ermac, I honestly think that Kenshi shouldn't have the telekinesis, because it kinda ruins the whole purpose of Ermac.


I'd rather have Kenshi than Ermac though.
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07/25/2014 09:54 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Quanchi9 Wrote:
After a while, I've realized there isn't much of a need for another guy with telekinetic abilites, leave that one to Ermac, I honestly think that Kenshi shouldn't have the telekinesis, because it kinda ruins the whole purpose of Ermac.


I'd rather have Kenshi than Ermac though.


Except many people disagree with you there.
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Jaded-Raven
07/25/2014 10:01 AM (UTC)
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Quanchi9 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Quanchi9 Wrote:
After a while, I've realized there isn't much of a need for another guy with telekinetic abilites, leave that one to Ermac, I honestly think that Kenshi shouldn't have the telekinesis, because it kinda ruins the whole purpose of Ermac.


I'd rather have Kenshi than Ermac though.


Except many people disagree with you there.


That doesn't change my opinion.
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Thanks redman for the sig!

07/25/2014 11:25 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Quanchi9 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Quanchi9 Wrote:
After a while, I've realized there isn't much of a need for another guy with telekinetic abilites, leave that one to Ermac, I honestly think that Kenshi shouldn't have the telekinesis, because it kinda ruins the whole purpose of Ermac.


I'd rather have Kenshi than Ermac though.


Except many people disagree with you there.


That doesn't change my opinion.
and you are entitled to it. just like how i think jade and tanya are the easiest charactrrs to replace
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Jaded-Raven
07/25/2014 11:43 AM (UTC)
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ErmackDaddy Wrote:
and you are entitled to it. just like how i think jade and tanya are the easiest charactrrs to replace


... Which had absolutely nothing to do with the conversation, but okay.
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DVorah
07/25/2014 12:11 PM (UTC)
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ErmackDaddy is a little bit protective of his Ermac, he also went mad on me because I went with Rain, while i'm one of Ermac's biggest fans... sign...


But anyway about this Kenshi/Ermac thing, I wished they would have gone with TELEPATHIC powers + extreme senses for Kenshi + his Sword being alive/possessed by spirits and doing stuff on his own, not by telekinesis.

Leave the telekinesis to Ermac.
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07/25/2014 12:20 PM (UTC)
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DVorah Wrote:
ErmackDaddy is a little bit protective of his Ermac, he also went mad on me because I went with Rain, while i'm one of Ermac's biggest fans... sign...


Wrong, he went mad at you because you accused Ermac of being a joke character.
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Jaded-Raven
07/25/2014 12:21 PM (UTC)
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DVorah Wrote:
ErmackDaddy is a little bit protective of his Ermac, he also went mad on me because I went with Rain, while i'm one of Ermac's biggest fans... sign...


But anyway about this Kenshi/Ermac thing, I wished they would have gone with TELEPATHIC powers + extreme senses for Kenshi + his Sword being alive/possessed by spirits and doing stuff on his own, not by telekinesis.

Leave the telekinesis to Ermac.


Well, if you've played as Kenshi in MK9, you'd know that his gameplay is completely different from Ermac's.

Do you know X-Men?
It's like Jean Grey and Psylocke... both telekinetic and telepathic. However, Jean uses her powers of telekinesis to actually move things with her mind, throwing them at the opponent or even throwing the opponent around. Psylocke, however, uses her powers to manifest psychic blades which can both physically cut at the opponent and affect the opponent mentally, and she boosts her attacks with telekinetic force.

It's kinda the same with Ermac and Kenshi. Ermac is the Jean Grey kinda character while Kenshi is the Psylocke kinda character. Where Ermac tosses the opponent around, Kenshi makes psychic manifestations to attack with.

So two or more characters can have the same power, but utilize them differently.
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ReptzMK
07/25/2014 12:36 PM (UTC)
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Fujin.

Kenshi is starting to bug me.
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SwingBatta
07/25/2014 01:18 PM (UTC)
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Technically, Ermac WAS a joke character. He was a rumor turned hoax turned...you get the idea.

The key word is "was," however. He's certainly not a joke anymore.
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07/25/2014 01:25 PM (UTC)
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I voted for Fujin because I like him a bit more than Kenshi.
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Thanks redman for the sig!

07/25/2014 01:50 PM (UTC)
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I don't see how Ermacs creation is a joke though. its not funny. there is no punchline. Fanservice? Sure. Gimmicky? Okay. Mokap is a joke character. Don't get me wrong, not being defensive, but it is what it is. Rain is more or less a tribute character. He too... not a joke. Dan Hibiki... joke character. Get the point?
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squirt007nc
07/25/2014 02:19 PM (UTC)
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FUJIN FTW
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07/25/2014 02:23 PM (UTC)
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AgentK Wrote:
Kenshi.

Fujin has to be the most overrated character in the entire series. Never got the appeal, and he only made one appearance where he sucked IMO. In fact, that whole game was awful.


I can say the same for the princess. But we won't go there
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SwingBatta
07/25/2014 02:55 PM (UTC)
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So glad Kenshi snaked his way into the lead overnight. I do not want a Raiden/Fujin final.

squirt007nc Wrote:
AgentK Wrote:
Kenshi.

Fujin has to be the most overrated character in the entire series. Never got the appeal, and he only made one appearance where he sucked IMO. In fact, that whole game was awful.


I can say the same for the princess. But we won't go there


Why can't people quit needling other posters about their favorite character for more than five minutes?
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Manneen
07/25/2014 02:55 PM (UTC)
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I like both, I think both of them were some of the better ideas in their respective games.

I stand by what I said in that Fujin has tons of untapped potential. I give him the edge here, but like both and hope they both make it in.
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07/25/2014 03:12 PM (UTC)
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Quanchi9 Wrote:
After a while, I've realized there isn't much of a need for another guy with telekinetic abilites, leave that one to Ermac, I honestly think that Kenshi shouldn't have the telekinesis, because it kinda ruins the whole purpose of Ermac.

Oh, really? What's Ermac's purpose? What's Kenshi doing that's such a detriment to Ermac's story?

How come this ridiculous reasoning only applies to the two characters with telekinesis, and not to the host of others who use fire or soul attacks?
No one ever cries foul that Shao Kahn and Shang Tsung both use soul energy, because (like Kenshi and Ermac,) they use it in totally separate manners. What's next...? Does Kitana take something away from Sub-Zero because she wears blue clothing?

Kenshi and Ermac haven't even met yet in this storyline, and anybody who can bother to read knows that Kenshi's telekinesis comes from and is used in conjunction with his sword. They don't share the contentious telekinetic slam anymore, either.
If the two don't use telekinesis in the same way, I seriously don't understand what the problem is.
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I don't think anyone has to guess who I voted for.
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SwingBatta
07/25/2014 03:55 PM (UTC)
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Fire is a common weapon in nearly every fighting game. Four people alone utlilized fire in the first game in either specials or Fatalities. TK is not. The genre didn't even get a true TK-based character until, yep, UMK3.

However, their TK styles in MK9 varied considerably. It's not a big deal.
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07/25/2014 04:44 PM (UTC)
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Rockchalk5477 Wrote:
Quanchi9 Wrote:
After a while, I've realized there isn't much of a need for another guy with telekinetic abilites, leave that one to Ermac, I honestly think that Kenshi shouldn't have the telekinesis, because it kinda ruins the whole purpose of Ermac.

Oh, really? What's Ermac's purpose? What's Kenshi doing that's such a detriment to Ermac's story?

How come this ridiculous reasoning only applies to the two characters with telekinesis, and not to the host of others who use fire or soul attacks?
No one ever cries foul that Shao Kahn and Shang Tsung both use soul energy, because (like Kenshi and Ermac,) they use it in totally separate manners. What's next...? Does Kitana take something away from Sub-Zero because she wears blue clothing?

Kenshi and Ermac haven't even met yet in this storyline, and anybody who can bother to read knows that Kenshi's telekinesis comes from and is used in conjunction with his sword. They don't share the contentious telekinetic slam anymore, either.
If the two don't use telekinesis in the same way, I seriously don't understand what the problem is.
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I don't think anyone has to guess who I voted for.


What I'm trying to say, well, ignore the whole thing about Kenshi "stealing from Ermac". I was being dumb on that part, is just take away Kenshi's telekinetic powers, because to me it takes away from him being a blind swordsman. He should be known as a blind swordsman and nothing but a blind swordsman.

IMO.
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