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Maggo
02/19/2008 12:07 AM (UTC)
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skinsley Wrote:
The RAW Hell in a cell was actualy not that bad....watchable at the least.

Other than that, the whole show sucked balls....CENA got a new Top rope move....however considering his lack of moves to use he had to resort to using the same move ...I counted 28 times.


Elimination Chamber, not Hell In A Cell.
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Zentile
02/19/2008 12:27 AM (UTC)
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Detox Wrote:
..........i don't hardly think that wwe would just let big show just show up, cue his own music, walk down to the ring, rough up an injured talent, and pick a fight with a boxing legend just because he felt like it. haha.


Yeah, it's so absurd that I can't believe he actually meant that, so I asked what exactly he meant.
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Maggo
02/19/2008 01:08 AM (UTC)
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Finally the Big Show actually helped a PPV not suck!!!! Ring the bells!!!!!
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TikiTheTiki
02/19/2008 01:46 AM (UTC)
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YAY ORTON'S STILL CHAMPION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry I'm just so damn happy right now......

And Sub-Frost - Seriously speaking,Cena did win but he didnt get the belt........................(right now,I'd rather one of the Highlanders or Funaki to be WWE Champion than Cena....)

At Wrestlemania,if its just Triple H VS Randy Orton I dont really care who wins cuz I like both of them. But if its a triple threat Match with Cena, I'm supporting both Triple H and Randy Orton.........

P.S: JOHN CENA SUCKS!!!!!!!furious And I think after the Royal Rumble was the first time I ever cheered for Mark Henry....wow
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Sub-Frost055
02/19/2008 04:07 AM (UTC)
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TikiTheTiki Wrote:
YAY ORTON'S STILL CHAMPION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry I'm just so damn happy right now......

And Sub-Frost - Seriously speaking,Cena did win but he didnt get the belt........................(right now,I'd rather one of the Highlanders or Funaki to be WWE Champion than Cena....)

At Wrestlemania,if its just Triple H VS Randy Orton I dont really care who wins cuz I like both of them. But if its a triple threat Match with Cena, I'm supporting both Triple H and Randy Orton.........

P.S: JOHN CENA SUCKS!!!!!!!furious And I think after the Royal Rumble was the first time I ever cheered for Mark Henry....wow


People seriously don't understand that half the guys on this thread basically know the spoiliers and have already told everyone on here that it's going to be a Triple Threat match.

What you just said Tiki... I don't understand a single word you just said.

But seriously... 5 more weeks until new story lines!
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Zentile
02/19/2008 01:55 PM (UTC)
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TikiTheTiki Wrote:
YAY ORTON'S STILL CHAMPION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry I'm just so damn happy right now......

And Sub-Frost - Seriously speaking,Cena did win but he didnt get the belt........................(right now,I'd rather one of the Highlanders or Funaki to be WWE Champion than Cena....)

At Wrestlemania,if its just Triple H VS Randy Orton I dont really care who wins cuz I like both of them. But if its a triple threat Match with Cena, I'm supporting both Triple H and Randy Orton.........

P.S: JOHN CENA SUCKS!!!!!!!furious And I think after the Royal Rumble was the first time I ever cheered for Mark Henry....wow


Well, now RAW's done, and it's confirmed. Surprise Surprise, it's a three way at Mania. And John Cena will win the match and get the strap back there. No doubt.
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Sub-Frost055
02/19/2008 11:34 PM (UTC)
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So is it true that this might be Shawn Michaels' big year? I've been hearing this from my friends that this year he's going to get more famous... I just want to know if this is true, not just asking it because he's one of my favorite, I just need to know.
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skinsley
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02/20/2008 12:41 AM (UTC)
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Going to get more famous ?
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Zentile
02/20/2008 12:46 AM (UTC)
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Well nothing really points towards that direction at all.
HBK's two potential ''last year''s were 2004 and 2007 IMO. In 2004, his feud with Triple H was very hot, and he was still seen as an absolute legit contender to the world title after coming off the triple threat matches with Benoit and Triple H. Last year, his main event match with Cena at Mania could've catapulted him into his last title reign, but this year there's really no hint that something like that will happen.
RAW has it's world title scene well defined: Orton, Triple H, Cena and the young guy that WWE decides to push next (Ken Kennedy probably). Maybe next year for HBK, but this year? I wouldn't bet on it, myself.


To make things more clear and detailed:

The WWE always plans things out very well, and that's why things make so much sense (however predictable).

Right now, Orton's the HEEL champion. A heel world champ has to drop the title to a BABYFACE (unlike babyfaces, who can drop the world title to both heels or other faces). It HAS to happen, it's just an unofficial booking rule.
He has already fought Orton for the world title and lost (more than once if I'm not mistaken), and when it comes to the world title, you can't just repeat feuds like that.
When one of the two men picks up the win and they move on, they can't just do it again and then change the winner, because that's absolutely anti-climatic. If on the next RAW HBK would beat Orton for the world title... sure it would be good for fans of the Showstopper, but it wouldn't make storytelling sense. If Orton beat him, that's it.

There are VERY few exceptions to this rule. One of them was with Edge and Cena. They had a very long feud, which saw Edge beat Cena for the title and vice versa. However, in this case (Summerslam if I'm not mistaken), it made sense because Edge had pinned RVD to get the world title, not Cena, therefore Cena could still have a chance.


So, moving on from that, here's why HBK will PROBABLY not win the world title this year:

Orton will be beaten at Mania, most likely by John Cena, the more popular babyface than Triple H.

Cena's title reigns aren't exactly well known for being short- however, this reign will probably be the shortest he's had so far. WWE realizes that we're getting 100% fed up with him, so they'll have to have Cena drop the belt.
Babyface world champions can drop the world title to other babyfaces, because it doesn't hurt the momentum of the belt. So, he might drop the title to Triple H mid-year. I suspect it will be Kennedy who beats him for the belt, though.

Regardless, HBK is just not at the top of that list, because Cena has fended him off as World Champion too recently, yet things aren't personal enough for a rematch that would actually see the title change hands.

If Kennedy wins the belt, he'll probably only drop it at Mania.
If Triple H wins the belt, it will probably be the same scenario.

Regardless, unless the top hot babyfaces like Cena, Triple H, Batista or Jericho, get injured, I don't see HBK being the one to beat Triple H or Kennedy at next year's Mania.
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firesnake
02/20/2008 12:47 AM (UTC)
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Hogan said he want's to vs Flair at Mania. Hogan told MTV.com, "they need a main event real bad, brother" and said WWE still has a lot of tickets to sell. Hogan said that with Flair's career on the line, it's the perfect match to have - and he even has an idea for who could be the special guest referee. “Either he’ll put me out for good or I’ll put him out for good. One or the other. That would be the match of the new millennium. Hogan vs. Flair. Maybe get Vince McMahon as a special guest referee. Me and Flair both hate Vince.” With the involvement of boxing superstar Floyd Mayweather at WrestleMania, it looks like Hogan has realized that WrestleMania will be a success with or without him. With minimal leverage, he's putting his cards on the table and showing that he does still want a piece of the action.
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Zentile
02/20/2008 12:53 AM (UTC)
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Hogan sucks so bad. It would be a great match IMO, but only if Flair beat Hogan.
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firesnake
02/20/2008 12:54 AM (UTC)
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I can see it bringing fans in but the match would suck so much. Hogan can't wrestle.
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Zentile
02/20/2008 12:58 AM (UTC)
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Neither can Flair.

It wouldn't be about the wrestling though of course. It never has been with Hogan, and it hasn't been with Flair in years. I'm sure it would be pretty entertaining and probably at times unintentionally funny, which is fine with me. I'd love to see it.
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TikiTheTiki
02/20/2008 02:47 AM (UTC)
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Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
TikiTheTiki Wrote:
YAY ORTON'S STILL CHAMPION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry I'm just so damn happy right now......

And Sub-Frost - Seriously speaking,Cena did win but he didnt get the belt........................(right now,I'd rather one of the Highlanders or Funaki to be WWE Champion than Cena....)

At Wrestlemania,if its just Triple H VS Randy Orton I dont really care who wins cuz I like both of them. But if its a triple threat Match with Cena, I'm supporting both Triple H and Randy Orton.........

P.S: JOHN CENA SUCKS!!!!!!!furious And I think after the Royal Rumble was the first time I ever cheered for Mark Henry....wow


People seriously don't understand that half the guys on this thread basically know the spoiliers and have already told everyone on here that it's going to be a Triple Threat match.

What you just said Tiki... I don't understand a single word you just said.

But seriously... 5 more weeks until new story lines!


Ok hear this:

I'm a Randy Orton fan,not a John Cena fan.(thats why I'm cheering for Orton at Wrestlemania,and probably Triple H as well)

When I said Cena won,he did at No Way Out via DQ and before the PPV you said he would lose(go back like to pages if you dont know what Im talking about)

And when I said after the Royal Rumble I cheered for Mark Henry,I was speaking about the arm-wrestling contest he and Cena had and I was cheering for Mark Henry(for the first time in my life)

Oh yeah,when I said I'd rather one of the Highlanders or Funaki as WWE champion,I meant that if Cena won back the belt...(which is obvious)

I just really hate Cena thats all.....
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Sub-Frost055
02/20/2008 03:08 AM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
Well nothing really points towards that direction at all.
HBK's two potential ''last year''s were 2004 and 2007 IMO. In 2004, his feud with Triple H was very hot, and he was still seen as an absolute legit contender to the world title after coming off the triple threat matches with Benoit and Triple H. Last year, his main event match with Cena at Mania could've catapulted him into his last title reign, but this year there's really no hint that something like that will happen.
RAW has it's world title scene well defined: Orton, Triple H, Cena and the young guy that WWE decides to push next (Ken Kennedy probably). Maybe next year for HBK, but this year? I wouldn't bet on it, myself.


To make things more clear and detailed:

The WWE always plans things out very well, and that's why things make so much sense (however predictable).

Right now, Orton's the HEEL champion. A heel world champ has to drop the title to a BABYFACE (unlike babyfaces, who can drop the world title to both heels or other faces). It HAS to happen, it's just an unofficial booking rule.
He has already fought Orton for the world title and lost (more than once if I'm not mistaken), and when it comes to the world title, you can't just repeat feuds like that.
When one of the two men picks up the win and they move on, they can't just do it again and then change the winner, because that's absolutely anti-climatic. If on the next RAW HBK would beat Orton for the world title... sure it would be good for fans of the Showstopper, but it wouldn't make storytelling sense. If Orton beat him, that's it.

There are VERY few exceptions to this rule. One of them was with Edge and Cena. They had a very long feud, which saw Edge beat Cena for the title and vice versa. However, in this case (Summerslam if I'm not mistaken), it made sense because Edge had pinned RVD to get the world title, not Cena, therefore Cena could still have a chance.


So, moving on from that, here's why HBK will PROBABLY not win the world title this year:

Orton will be beaten at Mania, most likely by John Cena, the more popular babyface than Triple H.

Cena's title reigns aren't exactly well known for being short- however, this reign will probably be the shortest he's had so far. WWE realizes that we're getting 100% fed up with him, so they'll have to have Cena drop the belt.
Babyface world champions can drop the world title to other babyfaces, because it doesn't hurt the momentum of the belt. So, he might drop the title to Triple H mid-year. I suspect it will be Kennedy who beats him for the belt, though.

Regardless, HBK is just not at the top of that list, because Cena has fended him off as World Champion too recently, yet things aren't personal enough for a rematch that would actually see the title change hands.

If Kennedy wins the belt, he'll probably only drop it at Mania.
If Triple H wins the belt, it will probably be the same scenario.

Regardless, unless the top hot babyfaces like Cena, Triple H, Batista or Jericho, get injured, I don't see HBK being the one to beat Triple H or Kennedy at next year's Mania.


That's the most well-thought-out explination I've read since I've joined this site. Thanks Zentile!
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Zentile
02/20/2008 03:08 AM (UTC)
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We fucking get it. EDIT: This post is meant for the Uber Cena hater, not SubFrosty.
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firesnake
02/20/2008 10:08 PM (UTC)
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Got a lot of news for y'all.

TNA officials have had talks about bringing back the X Division World Cup. They are looking to work with CMLL and New Japan in putting together the four-wrestler team concept again this year. However, the last time TNA tried the X Division World Cup, they had tons of problems with outside organizations regarding talent and it was considered to be more trouble than it was worth.

The live edition of iMPACT! on 3/27 is basically a one time experiment. If things go well and the ratings see a jump because of the live asspect then we will most likely see the show go live every other week this summer.

TNA's video game will have a brand new feature never before seen in a wrestling game. Players will be able to use an in game tool to create their own entrance theme for their created wrestlers.

As reported, Lindsay Lohan was backstage at RAW on Monday night in Anahiem, California. There is now talk of bringing her in for an appearance at next month's WrestleMania XXIV.

A WWE insider told The Sun: “Lindsay spent time chatting to Floyd and a number of our top superstars. She got on especially well with former world champions John Cena and Rey Mysterio.

John and Rey both talked afterwards about how much they’d love to see her at WrestleMania 24 in Orlando - maybe even in the ring!”

WWE is getting a lot of bad press in Spain. Both La Asociacion de Usuarios de la Comunicacion and La Condereacion Nacional de Padres de Familia y Padres del Alumnos have called for a ban of WWE television during hours children would be watching. Most every major newspaper picked up on the story on February 12th, saying they want WWE banned except from the hours of 10 p.m. until 6 a.m. The same thing happened in Mexico in 1955 which led to Lucha Libre being off television in Mexico City until the late 80s.
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Sub-Frost055
02/20/2008 11:49 PM (UTC)
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firesnake Wrote:
Got a lot of news for y'all.

TNA officials have had talks about bringing back the X Division World Cup. They are looking to work with CMLL and New Japan in putting together the four-wrestler team concept again this year. However, the last time TNA tried the X Division World Cup, they had tons of problems with outside organizations regarding talent and it was considered to be more trouble than it was worth.

The live edition of iMPACT! on 3/27 is basically a one time experiment. If things go well and the ratings see a jump because of the live asspect then we will most likely see the show go live every other week this summer.

TNA's video game will have a brand new feature never before seen in a wrestling game. Players will be able to use an in game tool to create their own entrance theme for their created wrestlers.

As reported, Lindsay Lohan was backstage at RAW on Monday night in Anahiem, California. There is now talk of bringing her in for an appearance at next month's WrestleMania XXIV.

A WWE insider told The Sun: “Lindsay spent time chatting to Floyd and a number of our top superstars. She got on especially well with former world champions John Cena and Rey Mysterio.

John and Rey both talked afterwards about how much they’d love to see her at WrestleMania 24 in Orlando - maybe even in the ring!”

WWE is getting a lot of bad press in Spain. Both La Asociacion de Usuarios de la Comunicacion and La Condereacion Nacional de Padres de Familia y Padres del Alumnos have called for a ban of WWE television during hours children would be watching. Most every major newspaper picked up on the story on February 12th, saying they want WWE banned except from the hours of 10 p.m. until 6 a.m. The same thing happened in Mexico in 1955 which led to Lucha Libre being off television in Mexico City until the late 80s.


Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... what the hell is a slut doing backstage in WWE? Are they just asking for more people to stop watching this? If she comes, WWE will go extremely downhill...
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Zentile
02/21/2008 12:04 AM (UTC)
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Hey hey hey, don't trash talk Lindsay! I love her. She's certainly a lot less slutty than most of the WWE divas!


Anyway, what do you guys think of Jeff Hardy's new theme song? I think it's horrible, it doesn't fit him at all and his old one was perfect for him.
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Sub-Frost055
02/21/2008 12:47 AM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
Hey hey hey, don't trash talk Lindsay! I love her. She's certainly a lot less slutty than most of the WWE divas!


Anyway, what do you guys think of Jeff Hardy's new theme song? I think it's horrible, it doesn't fit him at all and his old one was perfect for him.


I was gonna say something about his new theme... even though I'm disliking this guy more and more every Raw episode, the only thing I like about this guy was the theme song.

So does anyone else know who might be inducted in this year's Hall of Fame?
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firesnake
02/21/2008 02:19 AM (UTC)
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Nick Dinsmore returned to Ohio Valley Wrestling last week to do a TV angle where he woke up from a bad dream of being Eugene. Going by the angle, his time as Eugene was all dream. He is now back to being Nick Dinsmore doing his old "Mr. Wrestling" gimmick and wearing regular tights again. He defeated contracted WWE developmental wrestler Andrew Vain on last week's OVW TV show.
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undertaker15-0
02/21/2008 09:50 PM (UTC)
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right flairs in the hall of fame kennady and hardy are in the money in the bank
maria beets beth phoenix and poses for play boy jbl beets up hornswaggle
john Cenas in the main event at wrestlemania burchill beat super crazy and big show vs mayweather i think in a boxing match at mania well that was raw
this years hall of fame might have ultimate warrior in it or billion doller man ted biase
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TikiTheTiki
02/22/2008 02:23 AM (UTC)
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firesnake Wrote:
Got a lot of news for y'all.

TNA officials have had talks about bringing back the X Division World Cup. They are looking to work with CMLL and New Japan in putting together the four-wrestler team concept again this year. However, the last time TNA tried the X Division World Cup, they had tons of problems with outside organizations regarding talent and it was considered to be more trouble than it was worth.

The live edition of iMPACT! on 3/27 is basically a one time experiment. If things go well and the ratings see a jump because of the live asspect then we will most likely see the show go live every other week this summer.

TNA's video game will have a brand new feature never before seen in a wrestling game. Players will be able to use an in game tool to create their own entrance theme for their created wrestlers.

As reported, Lindsay Lohan was backstage at RAW on Monday night in Anahiem, California. There is now talk of bringing her in for an appearance at next month's WrestleMania XXIV.

A WWE insider told The Sun: “Lindsay spent time chatting to Floyd and a number of our top superstars. She got on especially well with former world champions John Cena and Rey Mysterio.

John and Rey both talked afterwards about how much they’d love to see her at WrestleMania 24 in Orlando - maybe even in the ring!”

WWE is getting a lot of bad press in Spain. Both La Asociacion de Usuarios de la Comunicacion and La Condereacion Nacional de Padres de Familia y Padres del Alumnos have called for a ban of WWE television during hours children would be watching. Most every major newspaper picked up on the story on February 12th, saying they want WWE banned except from the hours of 10 p.m. until 6 a.m. The same thing happened in Mexico in 1955 which led to Lucha Libre being off television in Mexico City until the late 80s.


Why do they want to ban children from WWE television in Spain? Thats kinda lame..... And why only show it between 10PM and 6AM......Kinda dumb................

And BTW Zentile, IMHO,i think you're the only one here that knows what they're talking about when its about wrestling.......

And Jeff's new theme song and Kennedy's own is LAME. Were they drunk when they made that decision?

And one more thing: Was Triple H supposed to turn heel when he hit Cena and Orton the Pedigree on Monday Night after the match?

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Sub-Frost055
02/22/2008 03:50 AM (UTC)
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TikiTheTiki Wrote:
firesnake Wrote:
Got a lot of news for y'all.

TNA officials have had talks about bringing back the X Division World Cup. They are looking to work with CMLL and New Japan in putting together the four-wrestler team concept again this year. However, the last time TNA tried the X Division World Cup, they had tons of problems with outside organizations regarding talent and it was considered to be more trouble than it was worth.

The live edition of iMPACT! on 3/27 is basically a one time experiment. If things go well and the ratings see a jump because of the live asspect then we will most likely see the show go live every other week this summer.

TNA's video game will have a brand new feature never before seen in a wrestling game. Players will be able to use an in game tool to create their own entrance theme for their created wrestlers.

As reported, Lindsay Lohan was backstage at RAW on Monday night in Anahiem, California. There is now talk of bringing her in for an appearance at next month's WrestleMania XXIV.

A WWE insider told The Sun: “Lindsay spent time chatting to Floyd and a number of our top superstars. She got on especially well with former world champions John Cena and Rey Mysterio.

John and Rey both talked afterwards about how much they’d love to see her at WrestleMania 24 in Orlando - maybe even in the ring!”

WWE is getting a lot of bad press in Spain. Both La Asociacion de Usuarios de la Comunicacion and La Condereacion Nacional de Padres de Familia y Padres del Alumnos have called for a ban of WWE television during hours children would be watching. Most every major newspaper picked up on the story on February 12th, saying they want WWE banned except from the hours of 10 p.m. until 6 a.m. The same thing happened in Mexico in 1955 which led to Lucha Libre being off television in Mexico City until the late 80s.


Why do they want to ban children from WWE television in Spain? Thats kinda lame..... And why only show it between 10PM and 6AM......Kinda dumb................

And BTW Zentile, IMHO,i think you're the only one here that knows what they're talking about when its about wrestling.......

And Jeff's new theme song and Kennedy's own is LAME. Were they drunk when they made that decision?

And one more thing: Was Triple H supposed to turn heel when he hit Cena and Orton the Pedigree on Monday Night after the match?



Before you go any further, you don't know anything.

The reason why they picked the hours between 10 and 6 is because people beleive that children will not be crazy enough to stay up during those hours. Not to mention that (even though I got this info from some of my friends for reasons because they are sex experts apparently) that's when porn shows on SHOWtime... when that channel was available before something changed all the channels... I forgot what but...

Anyways...

Who are you referring to as "they" when discussing about theme songs. If you are talking about someone that's not about thewrestlers, there's something else you don't know.

Triple H never went heel. He's what you call neutral, but not technically because he's still a face. Get you facts straightened out before you actually write something. Just an offer you should consider taking.
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firesnake
02/23/2008 01:02 AM (UTC)
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ECW wrestler Nunzio was also in attendance at last night's TNA house show in New York City Both Dreamer and Nunzio were watching the show from the balcony. TNA wrestler Brother Ray pointed out his two friends and said he was going to see how much trouble he was going to get Dreamer in. Ray asked the fans if they want to see Tommy Dreamer in TNA, which they popped for.
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