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Zentile Wrote:
I don't think you got what I meant. WWE fans aren't real wrestling fans. They like wrestling because they're watching WWE over something else, but it's not like they watch it because of the great matches- to them, John Cena vs Batista would be a way bigger match than KENTA vs Danielson. They watch it to be entertained, and that's why Vince keeps dishing out huge angles over huge matches, because that's what most people will see.
TheMkGeek Wrote:
Wow, this is getting heated, LOL! I agree and disagree with everyone's points that they made. I like ROH, but as far as it being better than WWE, no, NO, it's not, by far, WWE is lightyears ahead of ROH, and ROH has years to catch up, if they can, to WWE. As for WWE fans not being "real wrestling fans" as Zent pointed out, I think that's a load of bullshit! Just cause WWE fans eat, sleep and breath WWE, doesn't mean they ain't "real wrestling fans", they're just more passionate about WWE! Same with TNA fans and ROH fans! There's two sides to every argument, and whether both sides agree or not, they all agree on one thing, a love for everything Pro Wrestling, Period.
Wow, this is getting heated, LOL! I agree and disagree with everyone's points that they made. I like ROH, but as far as it being better than WWE, no, NO, it's not, by far, WWE is lightyears ahead of ROH, and ROH has years to catch up, if they can, to WWE. As for WWE fans not being "real wrestling fans" as Zent pointed out, I think that's a load of bullshit! Just cause WWE fans eat, sleep and breath WWE, doesn't mean they ain't "real wrestling fans", they're just more passionate about WWE! Same with TNA fans and ROH fans! There's two sides to every argument, and whether both sides agree or not, they all agree on one thing, a love for everything Pro Wrestling, Period.
I don't think you got what I meant. WWE fans aren't real wrestling fans. They like wrestling because they're watching WWE over something else, but it's not like they watch it because of the great matches- to them, John Cena vs Batista would be a way bigger match than KENTA vs Danielson. They watch it to be entertained, and that's why Vince keeps dishing out huge angles over huge matches, because that's what most people will see.
That's why I call them entertainment fans.


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I just want to see what happens now that they got 2 hours.
Zentile Wrote:
Awesome, so I'm glad we agree.
Anyways, is TNA really getting any better? They keep getting bigger deals, signing bigger stars etc... but is the product really any better?
Awesome, so I'm glad we agree.
Anyways, is TNA really getting any better? They keep getting bigger deals, signing bigger stars etc... but is the product really any better?
Ok I suppose I get your point, the plots are all the same, but I like this thing between james mitchels son and Abyys and sting ETC.
The signings in themselves are a big story, and even with talks of an unlikely goldberg coming in we could have the sting hulk hogan goldberg thaing all over again...thats also unlikely, but back in WCW was the reason I got into wrestling in the first place...bare in mind im only 17.
WWE is not interesting me anymore, the NEW ECW has never interested me, and TNA just seems to be bringing me something different and atleast a little old skool.
Though TNA still lacks what WWE had back in the WWF days 90's early 00's, but its currently better to watch than WWE in my NEW personal oppinion...because ive backed WWE for so long but its getting harder to defend it now as the weeks go on.
Judas Mesias? I have never seen a gimmick played out so bad. He's like smaller than Eric fucking Young but put over like a monster. He wears regular wrestling trunks but he's supposed to be a demonic psycho. And his finisher is so shitty, it looks like he's getting slammed.
Terrible, terrible terrible. The Undertakers and Kanes spent years creating awesome monster gimmicks, and in comes this guy and fucks it all up. Christ.
Terrible, terrible terrible. The Undertakers and Kanes spent years creating awesome monster gimmicks, and in comes this guy and fucks it all up. Christ.


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Zentile Wrote:
Judas Mesias? I have never seen a gimmick played out so bad. He's like smaller than Eric fucking Young but put over like a monster. He wears regular wrestling trunks but he's supposed to be a demonic psycho. And his finisher is so shitty, it looks like he's getting slammed.
Terrible, terrible terrible. The Undertakers and Kanes spent years creating awesome monster gimmicks, and in comes this guy and fucks it all up. Christ.
Judas Mesias? I have never seen a gimmick played out so bad. He's like smaller than Eric fucking Young but put over like a monster. He wears regular wrestling trunks but he's supposed to be a demonic psycho. And his finisher is so shitty, it looks like he's getting slammed.
Terrible, terrible terrible. The Undertakers and Kanes spent years creating awesome monster gimmicks, and in comes this guy and fucks it all up. Christ.
I agree I hate the fact that he's wearing trunks and his finisher does suck balls.
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firesnake Wrote:
I agree I hate the fact that he's wearing trunks and his finisher does suck balls.
Zentile Wrote:
Judas Mesias? I have never seen a gimmick played out so bad. He's like smaller than Eric fucking Young but put over like a monster. He wears regular wrestling trunks but he's supposed to be a demonic psycho. And his finisher is so shitty, it looks like he's getting slammed.
Terrible, terrible terrible. The Undertakers and Kanes spent years creating awesome monster gimmicks, and in comes this guy and fucks it all up. Christ.
Judas Mesias? I have never seen a gimmick played out so bad. He's like smaller than Eric fucking Young but put over like a monster. He wears regular wrestling trunks but he's supposed to be a demonic psycho. And his finisher is so shitty, it looks like he's getting slammed.
Terrible, terrible terrible. The Undertakers and Kanes spent years creating awesome monster gimmicks, and in comes this guy and fucks it all up. Christ.
I agree I hate the fact that he's wearing trunks and his finisher does suck balls.
That fake ass scar he had in WSX would make it a little better....but yeah, if you're gonna give a dude a monster Gimmick, give him an image to match....Attitude only compensates for so much


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gnrlies1992 Wrote:
That fake ass scar he had in WSX would make it a little better....but yeah, if you're gonna give a dude a monster Gimmick, give him an image to match....Attitude only compensates for so much
firesnake Wrote:
I agree I hate the fact that he's wearing trunks and his finisher does suck balls.
Zentile Wrote:
Judas Mesias? I have never seen a gimmick played out so bad. He's like smaller than Eric fucking Young but put over like a monster. He wears regular wrestling trunks but he's supposed to be a demonic psycho. And his finisher is so shitty, it looks like he's getting slammed.
Terrible, terrible terrible. The Undertakers and Kanes spent years creating awesome monster gimmicks, and in comes this guy and fucks it all up. Christ.
Judas Mesias? I have never seen a gimmick played out so bad. He's like smaller than Eric fucking Young but put over like a monster. He wears regular wrestling trunks but he's supposed to be a demonic psycho. And his finisher is so shitty, it looks like he's getting slammed.
Terrible, terrible terrible. The Undertakers and Kanes spent years creating awesome monster gimmicks, and in comes this guy and fucks it all up. Christ.
I agree I hate the fact that he's wearing trunks and his finisher does suck balls.
That fake ass scar he had in WSX would make it a little better....but yeah, if you're gonna give a dude a monster Gimmick, give him an image to match....Attitude only compensates for so much
Speaking of Kane....PUT YOUR F*CKIN MASK BACK ON!!! I don't care what anyone says, I think WWE will use him better if they put the damn mask back on. And what was the whole point of that one dude dressed up as Kane terrorizing Kane then Kane kicks his ass and takes his mask back??? What was the damn point?!?! F*CK!!! I MISS WWF
I didnt say I liked judas, infact i was a little confused at why he was a rival for abyss when he is such a weed... his look is terrible, but the story thats going with it is atleast a story.
WWE have not had any decent stories for a while...and anything that was starting to look good, faild short after.
WWE have not had any decent stories for a while...and anything that was starting to look good, faild short after.
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It's pretty sad that with all these shitty tag teams out now, i'm actually starting to miss the Spirit Squad


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Judas Mesias's finisher sucks. It almost looks like a single arm DDT combined with Edge's old Downward Spiral finisher. Plus that gimmick was just garbage. I agree, he should've had that scar that he had in WSX. Its kinda tough to defend WWE with the storyline it has now. Speaking of the new ECW, I don't watch ECW as much anymore. I miss the old ECW. At least back then, it was cool and was not the garbage that Vince McMahon turned it into. But getting back to TNA, I'm actually glad that it will be on for 2 hours now.
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What is Judas Mesias's Finisher anyway?
He gets Rock Bottomed but the guy who does the rock bottom sells it like he hit his face on the mat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR_d8SvGu5w looky there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR_d8SvGu5w looky there
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Zentile Wrote:
He gets Rock Bottomed but the guy who does the rock bottom sells it like he hit his face on the mat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR_d8SvGu5w looky there
He gets Rock Bottomed but the guy who does the rock bottom sells it like he hit his face on the mat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR_d8SvGu5w looky there
O.o....looks like a cruiserweight-ish move...
He is "weird" enough to have a monster gimmick....his eyes look kind of demonic...but as i stated before...apperance is just as importance as attitude....
Go with something more gothick...throw on some fangs and have him add maybe 10 more pounds of muscle....then we'll talk
He doesn't need more muscle, dude's muscled enough and Kane isn't actually the most oustanishing wrestler, but he sure as hell is tall.
No, really, the looks on that guy has to be seriously worked and so does his chosen moves. I've seen him fight PCO and it's not bad all the time. Kane can look stupid now, because he's got creed... and is tall as a tree.
No, really, the looks on that guy has to be seriously worked and so does his chosen moves. I've seen him fight PCO and it's not bad all the time. Kane can look stupid now, because he's got creed... and is tall as a tree.
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ME TOO!
Wait...as in Hart Foundation...do you mean BRET hart and Jim Neidhart...or Teddy Hart, Harry Smith, and Nattie Neidhart??
Wait...as in Hart Foundation...do you mean BRET hart and Jim Neidhart...or Teddy Hart, Harry Smith, and Nattie Neidhart??

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I thought Bret Hart once said that he'll never step on a WWE ring again no matter what?
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