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TheMkGeek
07/09/2007 04:51 AM (UTC)
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gnrlies1992 Wrote:
TheMkGeek Wrote:
firesnake Wrote:
Team 3D can't bring anything to TNA. The best part of the match was when they were not involved, LAX and AJ and Dainels were awsome.
Plus I hate how every time team 3d comes out bubba always chants his own tag teams name so that the fans could chant it. I also herd a lot of 3d sucks chants.


they need to go back to the WWE. They aren't even achieving near the success in TNA that they did there.


NO! they need to retire and do us all a favor. if i see another one of there matches, i think i might actually die. Seeing them in WWE would be like moving dog shit from the front yard to the back. It's still there, and it still stinks.

The only good thing WWE could do to them is make them Job to newer superstars. Or send them to ECW to train the new tag teams


Well, your opinion not mine. I think they're still an ok tag team. Considering the shape of the tag division in WWE and TNA, Team/Dudley are still assets no matter where they are.
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gnrlies1992
07/09/2007 05:38 AM (UTC)
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I just watched an interview on Nancy Grace, and it was just horriblr. i think you know what it was about.

Acording to Steve Blackman, he is the only one of the original 10 friends still alive, including Owen Hart and The britsish Bulldog.

Marc Mero (AKA Jonny B. Badd) was also interviewed, but instead of taking the positive rout that Steve took (if you saw the interview, you would know that blackman was the positive one). He bitched out Steve, bashed the entire company, and bashed benoit as well.

The whole interview was very interestion, and i'm glad i watched it.
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TheMkGeek
07/09/2007 04:20 PM (UTC)
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gnrlies1992 Wrote:
I just watched an interview on Nancy Grace, and it was just horriblr. i think you know what it was about.

Acording to Steve Blackman, he is the only one of the original 10 friends still alive, including Owen Hart and The britsish Bulldog.

Marc Mero (AKA Jonny B. Badd) was also interviewed, but instead of taking the positive rout that Steve took (if you saw the interview, you would know that blackman was the positive one). He bitched out Steve, bashed the entire company, and bashed benoit as well.

The whole interview was very interestion, and i'm glad i watched it.


Well, I always thought Mero was an idiot, this just furthers the point.
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TheMkGeek
07/09/2007 08:34 PM (UTC)
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TNA/WWE Pay Per View Previews:

** The updated lineup for TNA Victory Road next weekend on PPV features:

TNA champion Kurt Angle and TNA X-Division champion Samoa Joe vs. TNA Tag Team Champions Team 3D

Sting & Abyss vs. AJ Styles & Tomko

Chris Harris vs. Christian Cage

10 Man Ultimate X Match

Eric Young & Gail Kim vs. Robert Roode & Ms. Brooks - Mixed Tag

Rhino vs. James Storm

** Updated Great American Bash PPV Card ** Source: WWE.com

World Heavyweight Champion Edge vs. Kane

Batista vs. The Great Khali

WWE Champion John Cena vs. Bobby Lashley

ECW World Champion Johnny Nitro vs. CM Punk

Dusty Rhodes vs Randy Orton (Texas Bullrope match)

Women's champion Candice Michelle vs Melina
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Elnino
07/09/2007 09:23 PM (UTC)
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TheMkGeek Wrote:
TNA/WWE Pay Per View Previews:

** The updated lineup for TNA Victory Road next weekend on PPV features:

TNA champion Kurt Angle and TNA X-Division champion Samoa Joe vs. TNA Tag Team Champions Team 3D

Sting & Abyss vs. AJ Styles & Tomko

Chris Harris vs. Christian Cage

10 Man Ultimate X Match

Eric Young & Gail Kim vs. Robert Roode & Ms. Brooks - Mixed Tag

Rhino vs. James Storm

** Updated Great American Bash PPV Card ** Source: WWE.com

World Heavyweight Champion Edge vs. Kane

Batista vs. The Great Khali

WWE Champion John Cena vs. Bobby Lashley

ECW World Champion Johnny Nitro vs. CM Punk




TNA Guesses

Sting/Abyss win

Harris win

Someone will win Ultimate X, i'm surewink

Eric Young wins

I don't know...

WWE

Batista

Cena

Nitro

WWE's card is waaaay more obvious than the TNA one.

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Sub-Frost055
07/10/2007 12:04 AM (UTC)
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Elnino Wrote:
TheMkGeek Wrote:
TNA/WWE Pay Per View Previews:

** The updated lineup for TNA Victory Road next weekend on PPV features:

TNA champion Kurt Angle and TNA X-Division champion Samoa Joe vs. TNA Tag Team Champions Team 3D

Sting & Abyss vs. AJ Styles & Tomko

Chris Harris vs. Christian Cage

10 Man Ultimate X Match

Eric Young & Gail Kim vs. Robert Roode & Ms. Brooks - Mixed Tag

Rhino vs. James Storm

** Updated Great American Bash PPV Card ** Source: WWE.com

World Heavyweight Champion Edge vs. Kane

Batista vs. The Great Khali

WWE Champion John Cena vs. Bobby Lashley

ECW World Champion Johnny Nitro vs. CM Punk




TNA Guesses

Sting/Abyss win

Harris win

Someone will win Ultimate X, i'm surewink

Eric Young wins

I don't know...

WWE

Batista

Cena

Nitro

WWE's card is waaaay more obvious than the TNA one.



yeah, we know and it sucks. actually its totally obvious with wwe because no matter how many people are so into wrestling, they're gonna know that cena always wins. and another babyface person then a heel here or there.

i miss it when it was in the raw is war era. the best ever sad
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legend_armlet
07/10/2007 11:40 AM (UTC)
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Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
Elnino Wrote:
TheMkGeek Wrote:
TNA/WWE Pay Per View Previews:

** The updated lineup for TNA Victory Road next weekend on PPV features:

TNA champion Kurt Angle and TNA X-Division champion Samoa Joe vs. TNA Tag Team Champions Team 3D

Sting & Abyss vs. AJ Styles & Tomko

Chris Harris vs. Christian Cage

10 Man Ultimate X Match

Eric Young & Gail Kim vs. Robert Roode & Ms. Brooks - Mixed Tag

Rhino vs. James Storm

** Updated Great American Bash PPV Card ** Source: WWE.com

World Heavyweight Champion Edge vs. Kane

Batista vs. The Great Khali

WWE Champion John Cena vs. Bobby Lashley

ECW World Champion Johnny Nitro vs. CM Punk




TNA Guesses

Sting/Abyss win

Harris win

Someone will win Ultimate X, i'm surewink

Eric Young wins

I don't know...

WWE

Batista

Cena

Nitro

WWE's card is waaaay more obvious than the TNA one.



yeah, we know and it sucks. actually its totally obvious with wwe because no matter how many people are so into wrestling, they're gonna know that cena always wins. and another babyface person then a heel here or there.

i miss it when it was in the raw is war era. the best ever sad


New matches for The Great American Bash :

Dusty Rhodes vs Randy Orton (Texas Bullrope match)

Women's champion Candice Michelle vs Melina

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TheMkGeek
07/10/2007 02:47 PM (UTC)
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Anyone catch Larry King last night? It was decent, and Cena, Jericho, Dibease, Steve Blackman, and Bret, didn't come across as anything but professional, and didn't try to dodge the hard questions.

Was funny at the end when Larry takes one last call, only to cut the poor sucker off at the last minute, "sorry we're out of time"! Yeah sure Larry!! LOL! grin
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Sub-Frost055
07/10/2007 06:43 PM (UTC)
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wait, the texas bullrope match was also the match for eddie g. and jbl a few years ago right?
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firesnake
07/10/2007 10:19 PM (UTC)
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Goldberg to make first Professional Wrestling appearance in over 4 years.
www.wrestlefanfest.com
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TheMkGeek
07/10/2007 11:45 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
wait, the texas bullrope match was also the match for eddie g. and jbl a few years ago right?


Yup, it's the match that at GAB, Kurt Angle, then acting Smackdown GM, fucked Eddie out of the title, and gave it to JBL, thus starting JBL's reign of terror
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superawesomeness
07/10/2007 11:53 PM (UTC)
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Goldberg to make first Professional Wrestling appearance in over 4 years.
www.wrestlefanfest.com


Awesome, but what is wrestlefest?
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firesnake
07/11/2007 12:48 AM (UTC)
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I really don't know but this is what I got from the website.
WrestleFanFest is an event that will start its first season off in the Greater San Francisco Bay area, home to some of the greatest wrestling matches of all time. The plan is to carry on the convention throughout the 2008 Season, making stops once on the East Coast, once in the MidWest, and then wrapping up the convention ending up on the West Coast.
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Sub-Frost055
07/11/2007 05:21 PM (UTC)
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TheMkGeek Wrote:
Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
wait, the texas bullrope match was also the match for eddie g. and jbl a few years ago right?


Yup, it's the match that at GAB, Kurt Angle, then acting Smackdown GM, fucked Eddie out of the title, and gave it to JBL, thus starting JBL's reign of terror


oh okay, thanks, i just forgot what that match was called, but man, i've heard of more dangerous and freaky type of matches than this like: and the Japanese wresting shows have the strangest matches i ever heard of

Crisis Big Born death match

Crocodile Death Match

Desert Death Match (The winner puts his oppoent's head in a tank of scorpions for 10 seconds)

East Coast Thumbtack match

and i found out that this match was a very dangerous match which only occured once on the FMW show called the Electric Pool Match here's the ehh... way to go through this match:

This was a very dangerous type of match which has only been held once. The ring was placed in a large pool of water, with no ropes on 2 sides of the ring, and exploding barbed wire on the other two sides of the ring. The ring was put on a floating device, then it was surrounded by 4 metal barricades. There was a current running through these 4 barricades (which were essentially small sections of the pool enclosed off from the rest of the pool), enabling the water to "explode" when a wrestler was thrown into one of these barricaded areas. Considering the danger involved in allowing a current to run through water, this match was only used once in FMW in 1994, which was known for its extreme hardcore matches.

i just think that WWE should consider creating new matches for the wrestlers rather than making one huge one like the eilimination chamber then waiting a long time for it to be in a PPV or just ditching the entire match for a while. the Texas Bullrope match wasn't very entertaining when i saw it, and i don't think it's going to be that much amusing with dusty and randy.

although i must admit its weird having older, out of shape (probably) men wrestling others that are 1/3 of their age. i think it's funny.
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TheMkGeek
07/11/2007 06:37 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
TheMkGeek Wrote:
Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
wait, the texas bullrope match was also the match for eddie g. and jbl a few years ago right?


Yup, it's the match that at GAB, Kurt Angle, then acting Smackdown GM, fucked Eddie out of the title, and gave it to JBL, thus starting JBL's reign of terror


oh okay, thanks, i just forgot what that match was called, but man, i've heard of more dangerous and freaky type of matches than this like: and the Japanese wresting shows have the strangest matches i ever heard of

Crisis Big Born death match

Crocodile Death Match

Desert Death Match (The winner puts his oppoent's head in a tank of scorpions for 10 seconds)

East Coast Thumbtack match

and i found out that this match was a very dangerous match which only occured once on the FMW show called the Electric Pool Match here's the ehh... way to go through this match:

This was a very dangerous type of match which has only been held once. The ring was placed in a large pool of water, with no ropes on 2 sides of the ring, and exploding barbed wire on the other two sides of the ring. The ring was put on a floating device, then it was surrounded by 4 metal barricades. There was a current running through these 4 barricades (which were essentially small sections of the pool enclosed off from the rest of the pool), enabling the water to "explode" when a wrestler was thrown into one of these barricaded areas. Considering the danger involved in allowing a current to run through water, this match was only used once in FMW in 1994, which was known for its extreme hardcore matches.

i just think that WWE should consider creating new matches for the wrestlers rather than making one huge one like the eilimination chamber then waiting a long time for it to be in a PPV or just ditching the entire match for a while. the Texas Bullrope match wasn't very entertaining when i saw it, and i don't think it's going to be that much amusing with dusty and randy.

although i must admit its weird having older, out of shape (probably) men wrestling others that are 1/3 of their age. i think it's funny.


Yeah, them Japanese have some crazy ass matches, but I think those are more suited to their way of wrestling, and, imo, just wouldn't spark the same kind of interest in North America as over there.
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Zentile
07/11/2007 08:35 PM (UTC)
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TheMkGeek Wrote:
Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
wait, the texas bullrope match was also the match for eddie g. and jbl a few years ago right?


Yup, it's the match that at GAB, Kurt Angle, then acting Smackdown GM, fucked Eddie out of the title, and gave it to JBL, thus starting JBL's reign of terror


Actually it was a pretty clean call by Kurt. JBL did touch the turnbuckle first.
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Sub-Frost055
07/12/2007 12:41 AM (UTC)
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yeah, i don't think we may be interested in seeing those matches, but oh well. grin
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TheMkGeek
07/12/2007 01:49 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
TheMkGeek Wrote:
Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
wait, the texas bullrope match was also the match for eddie g. and jbl a few years ago right?


Yup, it's the match that at GAB, Kurt Angle, then acting Smackdown GM, fucked Eddie out of the title, and gave it to JBL, thus starting JBL's reign of terror


Actually it was a pretty clean call by Kurt. JBL did touch the turnbuckle first.


Oh, yeah, I guess I forgot that "JBL allegedly touched the turnbuckle" first. grin
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Zentile
07/12/2007 09:51 PM (UTC)
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lol JBL totally did. They even replayed it in slow motion right after the match. It was absolutely clean.
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07/13/2007 04:11 AM (UTC)
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Sumie Sakai is in an MMA bout for XSF. Didn't know she did MMA, that's awesome. Also, Elix skipper is coming back to tna for the ultimate x match. That's tight, can't wait to see him again. Hope he stays.
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TheMkGeek
07/13/2007 10:21 PM (UTC)
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Satyagraha Wrote:
Sumie Sakai is in an MMA bout for XSF. Didn't know she did MMA, that's awesome. Also, Elix skipper is coming back to tna for the ultimate x match. That's tight, can't wait to see him again. Hope he stays.


Elix Skipper is no big whoop, imo, highly overrated, even when he was in WCW, I found him to be moderately annoying.
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firesnake
07/14/2007 12:18 AM (UTC)
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TheMkGeek Wrote:
Satyagraha Wrote:
Sumie Sakai is in an MMA bout for XSF. Didn't know she did MMA, that's awesome. Also, Elix skipper is coming back to tna for the ultimate x match. That's tight, can't wait to see him again. Hope he stays.


Elix Skipper is no big whoop, imo, highly overrated, even when he was in WCW, I found him to be moderately annoying.

In what way?
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Zentile
07/14/2007 12:23 AM (UTC)
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Primetime lacks charisma, big time.

Predictions:

GREAT AMERICAN:

Batista beats Khali

MVP retains

Orton over Dusty

Candice retains

Nitro wins again

Edge beats Kane

Cena draws Lashley


VICTORY ROAD:

Abyss and Sting beat AJ and Tomko

Jay Lethal wins Ultimate X

Christian beats Chris Harris

Young and Gail beat Roode and Brooks

I have no fucking clue what's gonna happen in the main event, but whatever happens, it'll suck. For a more detailed view on why this match is totally horribly booked, read Storm's thoughts:

I know I’ve bashed TNA unmercifully, and the last thing they need is more criticism, but this past week’s episode of TNA Impact, and the announcement of the “Victory Road” Main Event has p- - - ed me off so much I have to rant some more. As a trade off, I figure talking about TNA’s up coming PPV and it’s Main Event might help create interest in the event, which may counter act my negative rant and help them out a little as well. You know the old saying, “The only bad press, is no press.”

The match that Jim Cornette announced as the Main Event for Victory Road (Live on PPV July 15th) is called “The Match of Champions”. This match pits the World Tag Team Champions (currently Team 3D) vs. the Tag Team of, the World Heavyweight Champion (currently Kurt Angle) and the X-Division Champion (Samoa Joe). In this match all 4 Championships are on the line. If either member of Team 3D scores the victory, that person wins the respective singles Title of the person he scores the win over. If Joe and Angle’s team wins the person who scores the victory wins both Tag Team Titles and will be able to pick any partner he wants to be World Tag Team Champions with.

Are you confused yet? If not just wait because this match creates all sorts of possibilities that accomplish nothing but to further destroy what little credibility TNA Titles have left. For the first absurd possibility let’s consider the fact that Titles in TNA can change hands on a Disqualification. It was bad enough when Abyss won the World Title from Sting via DQ, but what happens if one of the illegal men in this match gets disqualified? If Brother Ray and Samoa Joe are the legal men, and Kurt for example hits D Von with a chair and gets disqualified, who gets what Title? Does Brother Ray become X-Division Champ because at the time of the deciding fall he and Joe were Legal and thus Brother Ray technically beat Samoa Joe, or does D Von become World Champion, because he and Kurt were the deciding factor in the finish? Could a World Title change hands between two people who aren’t even legally involved in the match at the time? That’s got to be good for Title credibility.

Even if you set aside TNA’s asinine disqualification rule this match is still a complete logical nightmare. TNA has created a tag team match where there is no incentive for either tag team to work together, so it should be nothing but utter chaos with 4 people all out for themselves, yet all of TNA’s titles are on the line. World Titles are on the line and being decided in a match that in NO WAY WHAT SO EVER can fairly determine who the better Team or Singles wrestler is, which last I checked was the whole point of World Titles, to recognize who the best is. A simple fact TNA has apparently forgotten.

In theory Team 3D could decide to simply defend their titles and work cohesively but if they do that, the illegal guy at the finish is willingly passing up a chance to be either World Champion or X-Division Champion. If D Von allowes Brother Ray to score a pin fall he would be willingly giving up the chance to hold a singles Championship in addition to his Tag Title. If Titles are to mean anything no one would pass up that chance, so both your opponents and your partner should be trying to make saves at all times during the match.

On the other side of the ring things get even more confusing. Again ignoring the DQ fiasco, if Joe or Kurt aren’t legal they can’t win the Tag Titles but also can’t lose their Title. This creates a situation where there is even less reason for either of these two guys to work together, not to mention the fact that they hate each other. From a logics stand point (I know an absurd concept in wrestling at the best of times) you have two guys who hate each other, who don’t tag together normally as a team, and who have zero incentive to co-operate and work together, facing the best Tag Team in the World (They are World Tag Team Champions after all) who have been teaming together for years, and who have more incentive to work together; if Tag Team wrestling is supposed to mean anything at all, this should be a lopsided match in favour of Team 3D, which of course it won’t be.

If you took 5 guys who were the best 1 on 1 Basketball players in the world and had them play the best Basketball Team in the World in a regular Team game of Basketball, who do you think would win? If somehow the two singles wrestlers with no incentive to work together managed to defeat the greatest Tag Team in the world, they would then at least be worthy Tag Team Champions, as they would have beaten the best and therefore become the best. Problem is TNA has managed to eliminate that possibility as well, because if Team 3D is defeated Kurt and Joe (The team that beat them) don’t become Tag Team Champions the winner of the fall gets both Titles and can then pick any partner out of the blue, awarding someone a World Tag Team Title for a victory in a match they weren’t even involved in.

The only way this could get any better (I’m being sarcastic, you should read that DUMBER) is if Kurt or Joe were to win the World Tag Team Titles and select Judy Bagwell as their partner so she can have her second run as one half of the World tag Team Championship!!!!!

While I will admit this match is a novel gimmick idea, which might create some interest, it is a completely illogical way for a company to determine its’ World Championships, and only serves to make said World Titles completely meaningless. Common sense has to apply at some point. Even if this business is “Sports Entertainment”, it is meant to appear real to some degree. The boys are expected to run their matches as if they really wanted to win, and as an extension of that shouldn’t a company (TNA Management) try to book matches as they would if this was a real sport and they wanted their Champions to be deserving of the Titles they hold?

Would the IOC (International Olympic Committee) Award the 100 Meter Sprint Gold Medal to one member of a 4X100 Meter Relay Team for being able to beat the true 100 Meter Sprint Champion in a relay race where he is forced to run the race with 4 other people he doesn’t like or regularly run relay with? Or better yet in the unlikely event that the 4 singles guys beat the Gold Medal Relay team, would they give all 4 Relay Gold Medals to just one member of that Team and let him award those Medals to who ever he wants after the fact? Of course not and if they did, everyone would come to the conclusion that Olympic Gold medals are just stupid props that don’t mean a DAMN thing.

Guess what TNA that is what you are doing to your World Titles at Victory Road (July 15th Live on PPV). They are now nothing more than meaningless stupid props.
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Sub-Frost055
07/14/2007 03:02 AM (UTC)
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with your prediction in the randy vs dusty, win by just winning the match or having dusty's son come in, interfere and then create a new story line there?

just wondering cuz i'm seeing it more of a dq for dusty with his "son" interfereing... just a thought.
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firesnake
07/14/2007 06:07 AM (UTC)
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I just found this.
NWA's executive director Bob Trobich revealed that the company will be going back on to national television but dish network only.
http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/186201881.shtml
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