TheMkGeek •01/30/2006 07:55 PM (UTC) •
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Zentile Wrote:
Well since it was never mentioned again I was RAW vs. Smackdown! really is over...
Well who the fuck played JBL's theme song during Edge's match then?
Well since it was never mentioned again I was RAW vs. Smackdown! really is over...
Well who the fuck played JBL's theme song during Edge's match then?
What? Did I miss something during the match? I don't remember hearing JBL's theme.
Also, EmmKayEss, I think Rey will stay on SD. It makes no sense for him to go to Raw. But whom will he face, Taker, Orton, Angle, or perhaps, the unlikely Mark Henry?
Those 3 "surprise" entrants sucked, imo!
Kidd_Thunder •01/30/2006 08:31 PM (UTC) •
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Here is what I think will happen concerning the Raw and SD GMs.
Melina said something about "3 strikes" against Teddy Long, as soon as the third strike hits (maybe before WM22) melina will sue Teddy Long and he will resign As SD! GM. Vince will then begin to choose the New Gms For Raw, Bret Hart; for SD! Mick Foley.
However, If Vince says otherwise, there will be a battle royal at WM22 to determine the New GMs
Melina said something about "3 strikes" against Teddy Long, as soon as the third strike hits (maybe before WM22) melina will sue Teddy Long and he will resign As SD! GM. Vince will then begin to choose the New Gms For Raw, Bret Hart; for SD! Mick Foley.
However, If Vince says otherwise, there will be a battle royal at WM22 to determine the New GMs
TheMkGeek Wrote:
What? Did I miss something during the match? I don't remember hearing JBL's theme.
Also, EmmKayEss, I think Rey will stay on SD. It makes no sense for him to go to Raw. But whom will he face, Taker, Orton, Angle, or perhaps, the unlikely Mark Henry?
Those 3 "surprise" entrants sucked, imo!
Zentile Wrote:
Well since it was never mentioned again I was RAW vs. Smackdown! really is over...
Well who the fuck played JBL's theme song during Edge's match then?
Well since it was never mentioned again I was RAW vs. Smackdown! really is over...
Well who the fuck played JBL's theme song during Edge's match then?
What? Did I miss something during the match? I don't remember hearing JBL's theme.
Also, EmmKayEss, I think Rey will stay on SD. It makes no sense for him to go to Raw. But whom will he face, Taker, Orton, Angle, or perhaps, the unlikely Mark Henry?
Those 3 "surprise" entrants sucked, imo!
I'm talking about the Smackdown! vs RAW feud. After slight bickering, it started because JBL's theme song played during Edge's match agaisnt the Big Show to determin the Taboo Tuesday world title contenders. So Edge went to Smackdown!, speared Rey Mysterio and spooked off JBL. JBL always claimed that it wasn't his fault the music was played, and lets face it, why would he do that in the first place? So who played the theme song? WHY did the feud happen?
Satyagraha •01/30/2006 11:39 PM (UTC) •
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Cruisers don't go toe to toe with Triple H. Cruisers don't even touch Triple H. But Rey did. Rey eliminating Triple H (AND Orton) is pretty massive. I can't see him losing at 'Mania after WWE putting that much faith in him.
Cruisers don't go toe to toe with Triple H. Cruisers don't even touch Triple H. But Rey did. Rey eliminating Triple H (AND Orton) is pretty massive. I can't see him losing at 'Mania after WWE putting that much faith in him.
The giant killer is getting main evented and done so with authority. Shit I love it. GO REY REY!!!
Nikodemus •01/31/2006 04:08 AM (UTC) •
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Wow was anyone else impressed with the WWE Title match? John Cena acctually showed some skill. Props to him for that.
Shadow619 •01/31/2006 04:27 AM (UTC) •
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I wasn't impressed by the match, i was more impressed that Cena did more than his 5-6 moves of doom. So for that I congratulate him.
Has anybody seen the shape Vince is in? Click.
With Vince in that sort of condition, and feuding with HBK, guess what your pre-main event match at Wrestlemania is probably going to be? That's right folks, Vince vs HBK. In an "ouch, my knee hurts," match.
With Vince in that sort of condition, and feuding with HBK, guess what your pre-main event match at Wrestlemania is probably going to be? That's right folks, Vince vs HBK. In an "ouch, my knee hurts," match.
Rabid_Wolverine •01/31/2006 05:50 PM (UTC) •
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Has anybody seen the shape Vince is in? Click.
With Vince in that sort of condition, and feuding with HBK, guess what your pre-main event match at Wrestlemania is probably going to be? That's right folks, Vince vs HBK. In an "ouch, my knee hurts," match.
Has anybody seen the shape Vince is in? Click.
With Vince in that sort of condition, and feuding with HBK, guess what your pre-main event match at Wrestlemania is probably going to be? That's right folks, Vince vs HBK. In an "ouch, my knee hurts," match.
Yeah Vince is pretty damn big. Anyone remember when he was training for his match with Hogan and he got like twice as big as he was in a couple months?
For Mania i'm expecting one of these three...
HBK vs Vince
HBK vs Shane
HBK vs Vince and Shane
I say the last one cause of Vince's whole abusing power thing.
Blade-Tsung •01/31/2006 06:09 PM (UTC) •
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They have been been writing/building for awhile now that it will be HBK vs Vince with Bret Hart in some form. The Bret Hart part is the variable, but again, with enough money he'll do anything, just like anyone else. Even if Bret doesn't show up, Vince vs HBK is in the cards for sure. With HBK wanting to slow down his role after Wrestlemania () I'm guessing that this could be a HBK wins he gets RAW, Vince wins HBK goes home for good.
Thanks for the picture, Vince is pumped! Then again he probably works out with HHH daily.
Thanks for the picture, Vince is pumped! Then again he probably works out with HHH daily.
TheMkGeek •01/31/2006 07:26 PM (UTC) •
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Kidd_Thunder Wrote:
Here is what I think will happen concerning the Raw and SD GMs.
Melina said something about "3 strikes" against Teddy Long, as soon as the third strike hits (maybe before WM22) melina will sue Teddy Long and he will resign As SD! GM. Vince will then begin to choose the New Gms For Raw, Bret Hart; for SD! Mick Foley.
However, If Vince says otherwise, there will be a battle royal at WM22 to determine the New GMs
Here is what I think will happen concerning the Raw and SD GMs.
Melina said something about "3 strikes" against Teddy Long, as soon as the third strike hits (maybe before WM22) melina will sue Teddy Long and he will resign As SD! GM. Vince will then begin to choose the New Gms For Raw, Bret Hart; for SD! Mick Foley.
However, If Vince says otherwise, there will be a battle royal at WM22 to determine the New GMs
Don't know about the Raw GM, it seems as though, the WWE kinda forgot about that storyline, and it seems that Vince is running Raw! As for SD, Teddy Long should be replaced as GM, he kinda sucks at it, but I doubt that Foley will be Smackdown GM, and I seriously doubt Bret will be Raw GM. Nobody here seems to be able to understand that in various interviews, Bret Hart has said that he is done with wrestling, in any way shape or form, that means as an active competitor, GM, Commish, Co-Owner, Manager, Ref, etc. However, he has said that he is open to maybe coming in to give a (legit) farewell to his fans, or maybe being inducted into the HOF! Who should induct Bret into the HOF?
Blade-Tsung •01/31/2006 08:52 PM (UTC) •
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Yea. Orton says Eddie is in Hell? WTF? I don't think I agree with the things HHH and Orton have said/done since Sunday. HHH in the rumble pointing to the sky and telling Rey 'Eddie can't help you now', then again to Chavo. Mocking Eddie's dance. And now Orton says Eddie is in Hell? Ease up guys.
Alpha_Q_Up •01/31/2006 08:56 PM (UTC) •
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Blade-Tsung Wrote:
Yea. Orton says Eddie is in Hell? WTF? I don't think I agree with the things HHH and Orton have said/done since Sunday. HHH in the rumble pointing to the sky and telling Rey 'Eddie can't help you now', then again to Chavo. Mocking Eddie's dance. And now Orton says Eddie is in Hell? Ease up guys.
Yea. Orton says Eddie is in Hell? WTF? I don't think I agree with the things HHH and Orton have said/done since Sunday. HHH in the rumble pointing to the sky and telling Rey 'Eddie can't help you now', then again to Chavo. Mocking Eddie's dance. And now Orton says Eddie is in Hell? Ease up guys.
Yeah I was wondering what the hell that was all about. If I was Eddie's family I would be INFURIATED. It's one thing to get heat, but to say things like that? THat's going wayyyyyyyyyy over the line. Why would Orton and HHH agree to say things like that?
Nikodemus •01/31/2006 09:11 PM (UTC) •
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Shadow619 Wrote:
I wasn't impressed by the match, i was more impressed that Cena did more than his 5-6 moves of doom. So for that I congratulate him.
I wasn't impressed by the match, i was more impressed that Cena did more than his 5-6 moves of doom. So for that I congratulate him.
That's the only comment ... I'm surprised. Everyone complained about his wrestling skills lately and when he actually does improve no one has anything to say about it at all. I'm not a huge Cena fan...in fact I'm not much of a Cena fan at all but I can still admit when he puts on a good match.
I think they're probably trying to revisit that whole "shock-value entertainment" thing they have done before. Like Mae Young giving birth to a hand, Midion becoming a streaker, Lesnar slaughtering the one-legged kid (Zack Gowen i think his name was), etc. They have the idea that the more shocking and tasteless they can be, the more people will watch them! Hell it seems to be working with all the new generation of wrestling fans that are popping up around the place...
Alpha_Q_Up •01/31/2006 11:26 PM (UTC) •
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I think they're probably trying to revisit that whole "shock-value entertainment" thing they have done before. Like Mae Young giving birth to a hand, Midion becoming a streaker, Lesnar slaughtering the one-legged kid (Zack Gowen i think his name was), etc. They have the idea that the more shocking and tasteless they can be, the more people will watch them! Hell it seems to be working with all the new generation of wrestling fans that are popping up around the place...
I think they're probably trying to revisit that whole "shock-value entertainment" thing they have done before. Like Mae Young giving birth to a hand, Midion becoming a streaker, Lesnar slaughtering the one-legged kid (Zack Gowen i think his name was), etc. They have the idea that the more shocking and tasteless they can be, the more people will watch them! Hell it seems to be working with all the new generation of wrestling fans that are popping up around the place...
But there is one big difference. The "shock-value" only worked when there was that transition from the WWF era to the Attitude era, it was something never done in wrestling. Now stuff like this is almost expected and no longer has a wow factor. If you want evidence just look back at the whole Katie Vick storyline. Vince McMahon tried to stir up tons of controversy and all it did was piss people off and end up in wrestlecrap. It didn't boost ratings like he wanted it to. Now Vince is just trying wayyyyyyyyy to hard, and it's just getting rediculous now. That is a huge slap in the face to Eddie Guerrero and I've lost faith and respect for the WWE. I bet people like Benoit, Malenko, and Chavo are pissed. Why HHH or Orton would even agree to say something like that is just tasteless. I could never imagine badmouthing about someone's friend or relative even if I was paid or if it was for entertainment. Just absolutely tasteless
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Alpha_Q_Up Wrote:
But there is one big difference. The "shock-value" only worked when there was that transition from the WWF era to the Attitude era, it was something never done in wrestling. Now stuff like this is almost expected and no longer has a wow factor. If you want evidence just look back at the whole Katie Vick storyline. Vince McMahon tried to stir up tons of controversy and all it did was piss people off and end up in wrestlecrap. It didn't boost ratings like he wanted it to. Now Vince is just trying wayyyyyyyyy to hard, and it's just getting rediculous now. That is a huge slap in the face to Eddie Guerrero and I've lost faith and respect for the WWE. I bet people like Benoit, Malenko, and Chavo are pissed. Why HHH or Orton would even agree to say something like that is just tasteless. I could never imagine badmouthing about someone's friend or relative even if I was paid or if it was for entertainment. Just absolutely tasteless
fedegita Wrote:
I think they're probably trying to revisit that whole "shock-value entertainment" thing they have done before. Like Mae Young giving birth to a hand, Midion becoming a streaker, Lesnar slaughtering the one-legged kid (Zack Gowen i think his name was), etc. They have the idea that the more shocking and tasteless they can be, the more people will watch them! Hell it seems to be working with all the new generation of wrestling fans that are popping up around the place...
I think they're probably trying to revisit that whole "shock-value entertainment" thing they have done before. Like Mae Young giving birth to a hand, Midion becoming a streaker, Lesnar slaughtering the one-legged kid (Zack Gowen i think his name was), etc. They have the idea that the more shocking and tasteless they can be, the more people will watch them! Hell it seems to be working with all the new generation of wrestling fans that are popping up around the place...
But there is one big difference. The "shock-value" only worked when there was that transition from the WWF era to the Attitude era, it was something never done in wrestling. Now stuff like this is almost expected and no longer has a wow factor. If you want evidence just look back at the whole Katie Vick storyline. Vince McMahon tried to stir up tons of controversy and all it did was piss people off and end up in wrestlecrap. It didn't boost ratings like he wanted it to. Now Vince is just trying wayyyyyyyyy to hard, and it's just getting rediculous now. That is a huge slap in the face to Eddie Guerrero and I've lost faith and respect for the WWE. I bet people like Benoit, Malenko, and Chavo are pissed. Why HHH or Orton would even agree to say something like that is just tasteless. I could never imagine badmouthing about someone's friend or relative even if I was paid or if it was for entertainment. Just absolutely tasteless
I'm pretty sure benoit, chavo, rey and the others know whats going on. I'm sure tthey told them what there were doing. If not you would heard of something right now! They would had left if there were piss.
shuji_cage34 •02/01/2006 08:38 AM (UTC) •
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...they said that...
*checks facts*
DAMN YOU VINCE! DAMN YOU TO HELL!
I mean, stooping to this is kind of distasteful. OK, HHH has done some pretty low things (Katie Vick anyone?) but to this low. God.
I mean, if you check facts, Orton and Paul (HHH) have no control over the promos. Both of these men must have a 'why are they doing this' thought in their heads, yet they don't have control. If you ask me:
*prepares to bring down bombshell*
WWE are EXPLOITING Eddie's death. EDIT: I'm starting a petition to the WWE stating NOT to give Orton and HHH to this angle. The link is here: http://new.petitiononline.com/rges12/petition.html
*checks facts*
DAMN YOU VINCE! DAMN YOU TO HELL!
I mean, stooping to this is kind of distasteful. OK, HHH has done some pretty low things (Katie Vick anyone?) but to this low. God.
I mean, if you check facts, Orton and Paul (HHH) have no control over the promos. Both of these men must have a 'why are they doing this' thought in their heads, yet they don't have control. If you ask me:
*prepares to bring down bombshell*
WWE are EXPLOITING Eddie's death. EDIT: I'm starting a petition to the WWE stating NOT to give Orton and HHH to this angle. The link is here: http://new.petitiononline.com/rges12/petition.html
Alpha_Q_Up Wrote:
But there is one big difference. The "shock-value" only worked when there was that transition from the WWF era to the Attitude era, it was something never done in wrestling. Now stuff like this is almost expected and no longer has a wow factor. If you want evidence just look back at the whole Katie Vick storyline. Vince McMahon tried to stir up tons of controversy and all it did was piss people off and end up in wrestlecrap. It didn't boost ratings like he wanted it to. Now Vince is just trying wayyyyyyyyy to hard, and it's just getting rediculous now. That is a huge slap in the face to Eddie Guerrero and I've lost faith and respect for the WWE. I bet people like Benoit, Malenko, and Chavo are pissed. Why HHH or Orton would even agree to say something like that is just tasteless. I could never imagine badmouthing about someone's friend or relative even if I was paid or if it was for entertainment. Just absolutely tasteless
fedegita Wrote:
I think they're probably trying to revisit that whole "shock-value entertainment" thing they have done before. Like Mae Young giving birth to a hand, Midion becoming a streaker, Lesnar slaughtering the one-legged kid (Zack Gowen i think his name was), etc. They have the idea that the more shocking and tasteless they can be, the more people will watch them! Hell it seems to be working with all the new generation of wrestling fans that are popping up around the place...
I think they're probably trying to revisit that whole "shock-value entertainment" thing they have done before. Like Mae Young giving birth to a hand, Midion becoming a streaker, Lesnar slaughtering the one-legged kid (Zack Gowen i think his name was), etc. They have the idea that the more shocking and tasteless they can be, the more people will watch them! Hell it seems to be working with all the new generation of wrestling fans that are popping up around the place...
But there is one big difference. The "shock-value" only worked when there was that transition from the WWF era to the Attitude era, it was something never done in wrestling. Now stuff like this is almost expected and no longer has a wow factor. If you want evidence just look back at the whole Katie Vick storyline. Vince McMahon tried to stir up tons of controversy and all it did was piss people off and end up in wrestlecrap. It didn't boost ratings like he wanted it to. Now Vince is just trying wayyyyyyyyy to hard, and it's just getting rediculous now. That is a huge slap in the face to Eddie Guerrero and I've lost faith and respect for the WWE. I bet people like Benoit, Malenko, and Chavo are pissed. Why HHH or Orton would even agree to say something like that is just tasteless. I could never imagine badmouthing about someone's friend or relative even if I was paid or if it was for entertainment. Just absolutely tasteless
I dunno what the hell is wrong with Vince these days. It's too bad we dont get TNA here in australia, cos i downloaded a couple of recent main-event matches and they were much better than the crap Vince has been coming up with.
The match I got was of Raven vs Sabu (Hangman's horror match) in the new 6-sided ring. That match blew my mind, the creativity those two guys used in the ring was something I havent seen in a long time
If it were Orton saying "Eddie is in hell," of his own mind, without being told to say it by WWE, i'd be applauding him for being a great heel, because that's what heels should do, that's how you get heel heat. This is a bit different in that seeing as how promo's are scripted in WWE now, it's not just Orton playing a good heel by exploiting Eddie's death to garner heat for his own character, it's more the company itself exploiting Eddie's death for ratings and publicity. It would be like WWE turning around and saying "Yes, we whole heartedly endorse JBL's actions in attempting the Nazi salute and goosewalk in Germany." It makes the organisation itself look questionable at best instead of just the wrestler. Not that WWE didn't already look questionable though, heh.
EDIT: I'm starting a petition to the WWE stating NOT to give Orton and HHH to this angle. The link is here:
http://new.petitiononline.com/rges12/petition.html
You and about 300 other wrestling fans. Hate to break it to you, but this is exactly the kind of response Vince wanted. Outrage. All publicity is good publicity as far as he's concerned. Including such petitions. I agree it's pretty shitty of Vince to do something like this, but there's really not much you can do apart from shake your head in disgust. This has happened countless times throughout the histroy of pro wrestling, and it will continue to happen. It's nothing new, except now that kayfabe has been blown wide apart, WWE are the one's getting the heat instead of Orton. Which when I think about it, might not have been such a good move on Vince's behalf. But on the other hand, there are still thousands of marks out there who believe these were actually Orton's words from Orton's mind and don't know that it was scripted, so it probably pays off in getting the marks to hate him and establishing him as a true heel. Not going to do much good in regards to those RKO shirts and other Orton merch though, heh.
shuji_cage34 Wrote:
WWE are EXPLOITING
Eddie's death. WWE are EXPLOITING
EDIT: I'm starting a petition to the WWE stating NOT to give Orton and HHH to this angle. The link is here:
http://new.petitiononline.com/rges12/petition.html
You and about 300 other wrestling fans. Hate to break it to you, but this is exactly the kind of response Vince wanted. Outrage. All publicity is good publicity as far as he's concerned. Including such petitions. I agree it's pretty shitty of Vince to do something like this, but there's really not much you can do apart from shake your head in disgust. This has happened countless times throughout the histroy of pro wrestling, and it will continue to happen. It's nothing new, except now that kayfabe has been blown wide apart, WWE are the one's getting the heat instead of Orton. Which when I think about it, might not have been such a good move on Vince's behalf. But on the other hand, there are still thousands of marks out there who believe these were actually Orton's words from Orton's mind and don't know that it was scripted, so it probably pays off in getting the marks to hate him and establishing him as a true heel. Not going to do much good in regards to those RKO shirts and other Orton merch though, heh.
DamRho •02/01/2006 07:21 PM (UTC) •
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What's the big deal with that comment? Seriously, am I the only one not offended by it? Eddie's family should feel offended, you guys shouldn't really give a crap. Who cares whatever they say about Eddie, they were all friends they know how business works and how it exploits other people's misfortunes. Just get over it. If it were that serious an offense people like Chavo would just get the hell out of there.
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