It's the "Third Generation" Shit that he's being kept. He gets special treatment because of it. If he was anyone else, he'd have gotten fired.

Mad world, innit?

All about money.

Orton draws, and you can bet Vince isn't going to fire somebody with that sort of sway. On the other hand, if Steven Richards tried something like that, he'd be gone in an instant.

Batista or Taker could get away with that sort of shit every week if they felt like it.
Nobody would fire them.

By the way, seeing as how we're talking about Orton, what was the deal with that RKO on Bischoff on Raw?
He just does it for no reason, then Bischoff doesn't even care?

Most senseless heel turn ever.

Why does RKOing the GM make him heel? John Cena F-Ued Theo Long and I don't think anyone sees him as a heel.

I don't know, WWE does stupid things then forgets about them later. I hate Orton so much, if it wasn't for all that "3rd generation" bullshit he would hopefully be gone, and as far as him drawing any money, we all know what happened when Vince put the title on him, Orton never drew a dime, so Vinnie thankfully cut his title run short. So I go back to my original statement, Orton can only hide behind that "3rd generation" crap for so long, before it can no longer save him. Folks back stage won't even stick up for him, cause they all think he's gotten too cocky for his own good. A few of the WWE guys in the past got too cocky for their own good, and look where they ended up, unemployed and washed-up, and/or at TNA!

I dunno. I just assumed it was a part of his heel turn, seeing as how it was just a completely unprovoked attack. I don't really see any faces randomly doing things like that for no apparent reason.

Orton RKO'ing Bischoff turned the boos (from Undertaker fans) into cheers... And Cena did the same thing to Teddy Long this week, so can we say the same about him?

Orton is an idiot? Come on, I like the guy but how much can I defend him from you guys? Zentile is a very honest person (brutally honest sometimes haha) so I do not doubt anything he types, and I really can't even respond to that. That's fuckin gross. But the rest of the stuff being said, he can't wrestle, he's an idiot, no talent, wouldn't help TNA if he left, come on.

When he had the belt he had the crowd right where Vince wanted them, but sure after he lost it he's fallen into good ol' WWE talent that doesn't have a great storyline at the moment, but fuck the same can be said for Benoit, Y2J, Eddie G, etc etc.

Point taken, although I haven't seen Smackdown yet



Ugh. It pains me to say this, but I agree that he isn't as bad as maybe people (and myself) have made him out to be. He actually has a lot of potential (apparently Jericho thinks so too - and if he said it, it MUST be true ).
I think talent is sort of the wrong word to use, because in ring skills aren't something you're born with, they're something you learn. Orton could be the next Sting for all we know. He just needs evolve somehow, and if he did, I think he'd be great, because he seems to know how to capture a crowd pretty well.

My personal opinion still stands though, and that's that he's nothing special at the moment. Just a solid mid-carder like Christian.

(By the way, it's cool to see Christian getting a shot at the number one contendership at Mania, even though he isn't going to win it. They should do more with him)

Well it was reported at nodq.com, that Orton not only spilled an entire Bloody Mary on Amy Weber, he also dumped feces inside the bag of Rochelle. There we go:

Thanks to the PWTorch for the following:

This may come as a shock to some of you, but the prank Randy Orton played on Rochelle backstage at RAW a few weeks ago was simply put - disgusting. Randy got a hold of the bag and put his own feces in it, ruining just about everything she had.

We're also told that on the flight back from Japan, Randy poured a Bloody Mary all over Amy Weber which upset her quite a bit.

Randy is known backstage as a womanizer and there is currently a ton of heat on him for his childish antics. This is also part of the reason he's not in the spot where Batista is right now. WWE management thinks he is very immature and really needs to clean up his act before they go any further with him.

Ok that's just the most disgusting thing I've ever heard from the wrestling world. Not even Flair did shit like that, did he? Orton is one immature creep.

And what I meant by WWE's sufering if Orton went to TNA, come on guys, wether you like Orton or not it WOULD hurt WWE and it WOULD help TNA because Orton is over with the crowds. He is one of WWE's top stars, wether you personally like him or not. Wether he's deserving of his spot or not, it doesn't matter. He still is a top star, and it would probably mean ratings for TNA. Good ratings, I should say.

Anyway, all of you who feared that Orton would go over the Dead Man at Mania, after this feces incident, I doupt he's going to win the match.
EDIT: Guys, this sounds like very interesting stuff right here!

CZW owner John Zandig announced the promotion would usher into a partnership with IWA-Mid South, Canadian promotion Internet Wrestling Syndicate, and CHIKARA to better promote their cards in the future.
Basically what this means is that the 2 of the top 3 indies in the United States today are now working together along with two of the fastest growing promotions today to better help themselves. Even more, the territory that this organization will cover is the biggest today in North America, second to WWE.
The North of the United States as well as some of Canada will be covered by this territory

What is really shocking about this is that insiders and even CZW wrestlers are saying that this is the closest thing to the NWA in the pre-WWF era. Basically put, if this partnership does what it is supposed to do and they pick up more promotions, this partnership will be serious competition to WWE in the future.
Rumors are already circulating through the CZW locker room as of last night of a single top tier belt between all the promotions as well as an underlying name, i.e TNA is part of National Wrestling Alliance.
The first show from this partnership will be on the 12th of June at the ECW Arena in Philadelphia, PA, and more news about this partnership will most likely be announced.

Wow so he has two fans at MKO ... bout time someone helped me defend his skills.

Wow! I just read this at the ProWrestling website....

-Psicosis, Super Crazy, and Juventud Guererra will all become apart of the WWE Cruiserweight division in April.

God Damn! That'd be fucking sweet! I never seen Super Crazy before, but Guererra and Psicosis are both awesome cruiserweights! and these guys would definlly make SmackDown the better brand than Raw. can't wait till they finally show up!

Not a good sign that Juventud Guererra will be coming, as the WWE let the Rock's contract expire already, and the Rock made no bones he never wanted Juvy around. I hate him anyways, but I dig Cos'.

Super Crazy? Please someone tell me that's the dude that used to come to the ring dancing with the chair. I've prayed for the WWF/WWE to sign that guy.

La' Parka' was the dude who came to the ring dancing with a chair, and it would be nice if wwe picked him up, but meh. LOL at Juvy. I enjoy watching him wrestle, but he's not what youd call PTA material, lol. I've heard about the beef with him and Rock, but I don't know why it exists. Could someone enlighten me?

Orton = bottom feeder.

Whatever happened to Konan coming to the WWE?Thats good news about psychosis coming to the WWE.He was cool in WCW. EDIT:Some TNA news concerning Scott Hall: -There are said to be no plans to bring back Scott Hall to TNA at this time. The company is reportedly willing to do business with Hall, but are letting him sort out his personal life at the moment. For those unaware, Hall has once again split with his wife and friends close to him are saying he has hit a lower version of "rock bottom" so to speak than he ever has before. It is getting so bad that some are even concerned for his personal safety Source:Wrestling Inc. I hope Scott Hall won't do anything stupid.He's my favorite wrestler(in his Razor Ramon and NWO days).He should just move and on,there are other things to do in life then sit around crying over a girl.

GAGHNJNS!!!
Yes!
Psychosis confirmed!
EXTREEEEEME!

...And Juvi and Super Crazy are cool too. Especially Super Crazy, but especially Juvi. I'm also interested in this thing with Juvi and The Rock as well. I remember at one point Juvi completely ripped off the people's elbow (although it was of course called, 'the juvi elbow', heh).

Eddie
Rey
Kidman
Psychosis
Chavo
Juvi...
Seein' a pattern here (although I guess WWE made Eddie a heavyweight of sorts, so he doesn't really count, but still, he's a WCW cruiser).

Now all we need is Cyclope or the awesomeness that is La Parka. Nothing quite like watching a fat dancing cruiser dressed as a skeleton playing air guitar with a steel folding chair.

You're right about Orton being a bottom feeder, but saying that is even too good for Orton, and as for anyone who thinks if Orton goes to TNA it'll hurt the WWE, is dead wrong, Orton leaving the WWE would be a blessing, as we wouldn't have to hear about how good he thinks he is, and he'd die in the mid-cards at TNA!!

Now, to answer you're question about Juvi/Rock, when Vinnie Russo first came into WCW, he had this crazy idea that he'd parody every WWF superstar he supposedlly created (and some he didn't, ie, JR/Oklahoma), and since that included The Rock, Russo thought what better way to parody him, then to get a Mexican guy who can barelly speak a lick of English, and have him go out and do one of Rock's favorite sayings "Finally the Juice has come back to" and you get the idea, needless to say, The Rock took offence, and it made Juvi look like an idiot/joke. One point to add, for those who might not remember, when Jericho first came into the WWF, and did his first interview where he interupted The Rock, maybe on purpose or not, The Rock said to Jericho: "Do you think it impresses The Rock cause you beat some guy name Juvintude Guerrera?" So that is why The Rock doesn't like Juvi, but I bet like all stupid things in the wrestling world, Rock forgot about all that, and doesn't even remember who Juvi is!
It's cause of shit like that WCW is no longer around!

Oh, shit, so that's what all that was about? lol, lame. I always wondered wtf Juvi was doing with "the juice" but I never thought the rock would go ape shit over it, heh. I remember that promo between rock and y2j, too. Good times, good times. Edit: And I think it's great all these old WCW guys are coming in, haha. I love it. I remember back in WCW days, there was a 4 on 4 tag match; pretty much all the latinos. Anyway, it was like face cruisers vs heel cruisers. I remember one spot where the heels distracted the ref and put a 4 on 1 mud hole stomping. The faces were like "wtf, turn around ref!" Then like thirty seconds later the faces did a 4 on 1 stomping and the heels were like "wtf, turn around ref!" lol, it was hillarious; one of my favorite werstling moments ever.

Juvi & Rock, huh? I remember back in the WCW (in it's final days) they had a direct "Rock Wannabe" by the name of "Kid Romeo." Anyone remember him, or what he's up to nowadays?

Nope, can't say as I do remember him. If he was during their dying days, he must have been one of those, "blink and you miss them" guys! So I can say I haven't heard about him recentlly.



This from twnpnews.com:

Johnny Swinger is scheduled to debut tonight, likely in a tryout match.

Romeo is in TNA, now. Not sure if he's just testing water or on the direct roster, though. He's gotten a lot better, actually.

On a site I just looked up, it had him listed as a "TNA Prospect". So I don't think that means he's on the direct roster, he's just being given a try out. There's photos on the site I mentioned (www.obsessedwithwrestling.com, for those curious) that show he has wrestled possibly on tv, maybe TNA Impact show or their TNA Explosion show.

Another day, another Orton Bash-Fest.....

You really honestly don't believe that do you MKGeek? Orton isn't even mid-card TNA material? Now your just insulting him

I'am surprised this hasn't been discused so..

Which WrestleMania Movie spoof did anyone like the most..

Forest Gump- Eugene

Bravehart- Triple H, Ric Flair

Basic Instinct- Jericho,Benoit,Christian,Stacy

Pulp Fiction- Eddie,Booker T

Few good Men- John Cena, JBL

Dirty Harry- Undertaker

for me, I thought the Basic Instinct one was the best one so far. it was just pretty damn funny. but the Cena/JBL one was really well acted thought.

and I heard theres another one coming with The Big Show spoofing Taxi Driver.

hey Nikodemus whats going on with the upload for the theme songs u were getting me... send me a message....

also... randy orton is going to lose the match with taker and lose his "legen killer" name and prob retire aka get fired afterwards.... and im really looking foward to mania... i know this stone cold will end up stunning piper....

also with TNA is prob going to take WWE's spot on spike tv... and WWE is going to be back on the USA channel... lol... could we say another monday night war?

oh yea... also what happen to monday night interactive? that interactive online chat where u get quized and win stuff?