Where to start....

Booker T*, HHH, Christian, Trish, Heidenreich, Hurricane, D-Von Dudley, Jindrak, Cade, Bejamin and Undertaker (lol, Just Kidding)


*My opinion on this guy keeps changing

Now i ask you a question Rabid Wolverine...Do you think Goldberg sucks?

You are right on alot of those who suck.With Goldberg,I dont think he sucks,cause I actually liked him for a while.But I dont deny that he isnt a good technical wrestler.He's a big man pretty much.

AJ Styles knows more wrestling moves than Goldberg and he's a spot monkey. Oh and AJ rocks majorly.

Man, TNA is going to shit, too. Gha...now what? I've got to import NJPW vids? Meh.

Jade2004, I really hope you're kiddig about Benjamin. He's pure godliness. It makes me when people don't appreciate him....

My SS predictions:
Booker (seriously, i mean seriously, how is JBL still champ??)
Shelton (I like both guys a lot, so I'll be happy no matter what)
Undertaker (I give up on Smackdown if JBL wins and the Undertaker loses)
Team Guerrero (All about Cena bitches!)
Team Orton (I think the good guys win and HHH gotta fight to stay alive for the next month)
Trish (She's hotter then Lita)
Rey wins the cruiserweight title (I just like him the most)

Why do you say that? TNA is getting pretty good. All of these big names that they've signeg recentlly and don't forget last Sunday's ppv. Plus, according to Jeff Jarrett, TNA plans to start doing houseshows earlly 2005. I'd say TNA is far from going to shit. They could give the WWE the boot in the ass they so rightlly need.

I never cared for Goldberg, The only time I actually care for him was when he won the World Heavyweight title from Triple H. Although it must be pointed out I was hoping for ANYONE to win the title from Triple H during the time, Goldberg just happened to be that person. And after that thing you called a match at WrestleMania XX, Goldberg will always be one of the worst wrestlers to me.

As for TNA, meh, I'am not interested in guys like nash,hall, Hogan or Savage anymore. the only time they were actually great was in the 90s. Nash can't even make it to the ring without injuring himself somehow, Hogan is just way to old and repitive that its not even believeable for him to even beat anyone anymore. I never really cared for him anyways, Savage is just a joke now, Hall is pretty decent though. Instead of bringing in old has beens from 90s, why don't TNA push some of THEIR talents? I've always wanted to check out TNA to see how different they are from the WWE, And I heard their matches were pretty tight. But do they really need these old hasbeens to to take up space?

Hell, I'd pick JBL over these Grandpas anydays. At least JBL is something new, and is much more entertaining than these guys. even if he is a shitty wrestler.

Why is everyone referring to the Benoit/Orton/Jericho/Maven team as Team Orton? Orton isn't the leader. If anyone should be considered the leader it's Benoit.
But it wouldn't be fair to call them team Benoit since thats not the official name either, so if you people want to call them by a shorter name rather than naming all 4 wrestlers, just call them something random...like...say....oh I dunno Team Steiner. Yeah that sounds good.

Lol, actually, on RAW, Bischoff reffered to the face team as Team Orton, or something to that degree. But I think Team Benoit would be better. BTW, TNA is awesome. I'd love to see Impact go to 2 hours and maybe get a better timeslot. Hall and Nash may be old, but I'd pick them over that joke Bradshaw anyday.

Haha.

If Page is is as good as he once was in his grunge days, i'll just be itching to check out TNA. It's like a WCW reunion over there by the sounds of things...I miss WCW.

And as far as Goldberg not being "good", fuck "good".
All I care about is seeing an entertaining and believable match, reagardless of whether it's Tank Abbot Vs. Buck House Buck, or Rey Vs. Angle.
A "good" wrestler in my book is somebody who can simply entertain me without coming off as trying too hard to do so.
Foley was a good wrestler, just as much as Angle is. Sure angle can mat wrestle his ass off, but I don't see him repeatedly throwing himself off cages or onto piles of tacks. Both are entertaining, therefore, both are "good" wrestlers.
Goldberg was entertaining in his own right. Yeah his persona was a tad lame after he got stung by Hall at Starcade and lost his streak, but he was still decent. He could, when he wanted to, go to the mat, throw guys around, apply submissions, hell, I even recall him throwing a full backflip once when DDP grabbed his ankle - maybe not all that impressive by any other wrestler's standards, but we're talking about Goldberg here.
He didn't often show it, but he was versitile. I think the only thing he couldn't really do convincingly was brawl. I never saw him throw any top rope moves down either.

(I take back that Buck House Buck and Tank Aboot thing too. Sorry about that)

Yep,TNA is getting better.I was watching Impact yesterday and I was blown away.Vince says the WWE is about entertainment but it seems like TNA is about entertainment.Good entertainment at that.The moves they do are sick.Nash is getting old.The last time I seen him his hair was long and it wasn't grey.Razor err...I mean Scott Hall is my fav wrestler of all time.Does anyone remember his theme music back in the WWF?I loved it.I still listen to it everytime I pull out WWF Royal Rumble for SNES.

The WWE and TNA both have some of the same features though:

Jeff Jarret=Triple H(not as annoying as HHH though for now that is...)

Abyss=The old 1998 Kane!!!

Scott Hall and Kevin Nash are only going to be around until the next TNA PPV, so they won't be around long enough to get annoying. It's very likely TNA won't hire Savage or Hogan. They lost all respect for Savage after his whiny actions backstage at Victory Road, and they won't hire Hogan because he's already supposed to do something at WM XXI.

I am so freaking glad that DDP is on TNA. He can do a ton of good for them, in terms of exposure, especially in a feud with Raven. Does anyone notice that TNA actually USES their talent? They spread all the matches around, not have just a few guys in the spotlight every...single...night (cough...Evolution...cough).

I too have noticed some of TNA's similarity to WWE. Examples:

Monty Brown=Goldberg (But less whiny, the POUUUUUUNCE!!!)
Abyss=Kane (Cool version, not the new nice little daddy Kane)
Jeff Jarret=Triple H (Not nearly as annoying though)
Team Canada=La Resistance
Amazing Red=Rey Mysterio (Red's Signature Move is the 718, sound familiar?)

TNA will probably help DDP get his respect back too.The WWE nearly ruined his career along with Saturn's.

DDP went from being a WCW World Champion to being a WWE European Champion. talk about getting held back big time.

I wonder how long John Cena is going to stay with the WWE when he comes back at Survivor Series. It doesn't take 4-5 weeks to finish a movie.

I'm just frustrated with everything wrestling right now, I guess, lol. I don't mean "literally" that TNA is going to shit. But, come on...the last thing we need is a fucking Nash.....dude is low tier. And I agree with Olympic_Hero, TNA needs to push "their" talent. Though, they have been for the most part, I suppose. I get so tired of these "one hit wonders," though.

I can see why they want hall, nash etc. They're just big names and they draw a card...for while. Really, though...WTF are they actually doing? Throwing out a shoot? Drawing heat? Shit....I wouldn't be suprised if Nash does a "big boot" with in the next two weeks then jacks his knee up somehow.

So, ya, I take back my overtly negative tone towards TNA . It's still my brand of choice. I'm just an angry, bitter wrestling fan right now, lol.
Edit: I just read that WWE signed Paul Burchill? K, who the hell is this dude. He sounds pimp. Has like a flip-rock bottom type move and a HUGE moonsault. Anybody know anything?

Goldberg is crap for the following reasons

-His back stage persona ego (Booker T v Goldberg)
Booker was scheduald to win and after set ending Goldberg kicks out. Lucky ref still counted to 3.
-His lack of consideration for other wrestlers
(Bret Hart incident)
-Lesnar V Goldberg
-He is an NFL reject who thinks he can wrestle
-Is only a big name because of HUGE WCW PUSH
-Didn't earn his title because so many wrestlers with long jevity suffered because of WCW push
-He can do a few submission holds but will never thrive off his own talent

This is why he will never be or ever be close to being a good wrestler.

I disagree. Wasn't it Y2J who first told of his annoyanvce over Evolution taking charge.

BTW What happened between Goldberg and Hart?

Ok, let me say this, all your points while valid to an extent, are your opinion and your opinion alone. I say that alot of your points are bullshit in my opinion, but that is just my opinion.

Jade2004, here's what happened between Goldberg and Bret Hart. The two of them were wrestling, and Goldberg accicdentally (though in some peoples' minds purposely) kicked Hart in the face. No some and Bret himself claimed that it gave him a severe concussion and forced his retirement, but I disagree. Any way, the two of them have since talked, and buried the hatchet so to speak. So that is the story for the most part.

To you Lambert I then add, if the two of them can put it behind them and get over it, you can to!

Paul Burchill,his finisher is the c4,a backflipping rockbottom.He does standing shooting star presses,standing moonsaults,and I even saw a clip of him doing a split legged twisting senton once.Guy is about 300 pounds,are 6'4 and can do most things that alot of cruisers cant.Cant wait for this guy to come.

Damn your thread got ALOT of success.

I'M BACK! And I'm better than ever.

I came back. Last week I rented 5 Wrestlemanias (1, 3, 8, 9 and 13) from the Library and it was AWESOME.

Survivor Series better be good this year.

It wasn't.


The faces won the Raw main event so that is good, but aside from that it sucked. Snitzky, Heidenreich, and JBL have no business being so elevated on this card. A few nice spots here and there but overall a very sub par ppv with no real high spots.

I was really hopin they were gonna play the Maven injured angle and have HBK or Kane fill in, but nope.

Cena was cool tho, HUGE pop.

Reading the results, It seems like last year's Survivor Series was a much better show! I hate when every Champion on a PPV retains their titles. 4 titles on the line, they all retained. bullshit!

And why the hell was the Raw Survivor Series match Main-Evented the PPV over the WWE Championship match. regardless of who the competitors are, the WWE or World titles should ALWAYS be the Main-Event.

Judging by tonight's PPV. I'am going to go out on a limb and say that the possible WrestleMania matches could be...

Triple H vs Orton for the World title
Kurt Angle Vs Shawn Michaels(WWE title?)
The Undertaker/Kane Vs Gene Snitshy/Heidenreich

Finally they let Taker have a win!! He hasnt won a PPV since WMXX (I think), they kept on making more and more frustrating ways to make him lose. I dont think its fair that they make Taker go through so much pain just to beat a stupid rookie, he used to be such a conqueror...
They should pit him up against wrestlers of his own status, like HHH, Big Show (the old one at least, when he had long hair), or even Kane again. At lest that should improve Kane's storyline.