Here's my own input on the tier list here.

Firstly the Darrius/Kobra debate.



Given this, you guys should also know that D+3 in Kali sticks knocks Darrius straight out of his low charge. I'm not sure if it stops the mid one, but low fireballs stop them both. Kobra is better than Darrius.



N/S can only pwn Bo if they get close enough. F3 can hit through the Smoke Cloud too, so they have little defense against it. Invisbility and teleports won't help you and Puke will screw them in close if they haven't use a mid or a throw in time. I'm not taking infinites into account either, just 50-50 game and partials. Bo should easily win if the player opts to abuse F3 to its fullest and keep the other two at bay.

Bo wins.... Most of the time.....

I'm not a Shujinko player but again he needs to get in close. Or, he needs to be able to atch a puking Bo with the spear or freeze or an advancing Bo with the teleslam. Otherwise, he loses. F3 owns him

Bo again wins... Most of the time

Edit: I just read Yayo's stuff, if all that can be taken into consideration them maybe this match up is more even. However, I'd still say Bo has it overall and Jinko's fist gives no free throw.

if more people reacted to their opponents they would know jinko teleslam and n/s teleport owns whiffed f3's 100% of the time, even if you trade hits. if f3 had longer stun Bo'rai Cho would be #1 but trading hits with f3 makes Bo weak.

as far as free cloud goes, you can get that not only in corners but from mid-screen as well.

The drill is a good move, when used right.
You should use drill kick to pinish whifs with big recovery on close-mid ranga and after popups, that's it.

Exactly so if i kill you with smokes Grab ff+4, db+2, d+1, b+1 its a inf? pfft

1. Scorpion
2.Sub- Zero
3.Kenshi
4. Raiden
5. Darrius
6. Kabal
7. Kobra
8. Shujinko
9. Ashrah
10. Sindel
11. Mileena
12. Hotaru
13. Noob Smoke
14. Dairou
15. Bo Rai Cho
16.Li Mei
17. Havik
18.Baraka
19. Ermac
20.Nightwolf
21.Kira
22.Tanya
23. Jade
24. Liu Kang

what's this

Check's tier list is quite fucked up, but aat least someone realizes that Tanya is garbage LOL.

tanya garbage? lmmfao. i wish i could play on the ntsc server to proove u wrong.

Why? Would like to get raped that badly?

Tanya is not that good. She's pretty good, but the characters above her are better...simple. The points you people are making have all been acknowledged, but she's still not better than Jade,Kenshi,Sub-Zero,Hotaru,Nightwolf,Raiden,Ermac,etc,etc.

This theory bull shit with Shujinko and NS is laughable, really. Teleslam is unsafe on block. Turtle Bo is the gayest Bo there is..trust me. People use f+3 too much. It's the best move in the game when used in proper situations. Not wagging it at the air. NS is not better than Bo because even with all the glitches you mention he still isn't as dominating..period. Think OUTSIDE the top tiers and against the rest of the roster. Like Dan said, an elite Sindel and Mileena(which dan has both) has a lot easier time vs NS than they do vs Bo Rai Cho. Same thing with Shujinko.

I really don't care what peeps think anymore. I'm done with the game and peeps can believe whatever they want.

NO WAY in HELL Tanya is #23.
dude li-mei sucks more than tanya(hard to admit but true)
you guys got it all wrong this time.

and all of u!...this is just versas & quiks opinion.
that is no official tier list.
did MIDWAY released it???....no
so...yeah,
THERE NEVER WAS AN OFFICIAL TIER LIST.

Hehe..you know it's time to call it quits when someone doesn't even know their own character. As if I needed anymore incentive to be done with this.

Tanya is not better than Li Mei. Tanya without walls or when not in close is mediocre. Li Mei not only rapes Tanya in a series, but Li Mei is just a better character overall. KLD: b+3 and 2 rape Tanya's entire move set..period.

dude, I do not get raped by tanya vs. limei.
I always dominate in a series.
but when people pick limei I most of the times pick tanya cuz i find it easy to beat li mei with tanya.
oh! yes & I still want my revenge with sub-zero.
but i cant play cuz im grounded and my dad took my ps2 away.
sooooooooo maybe like in one more month.

ok now i would like for one of you (mostly Quik and versa) tell me how i got 34-1 with Jade n tanya n get to rank 800ish just like 4 hours ago or so... hmm? tell me? i played 3 dais, 5 n/s 2 bos, you know why i won vs all these? becuz jade and tanya arnt as low as you like to say, jade is high mid tier and tanyas low mid, Scorpion high mid tier? please

untill you can all learn to play to win you shouldnt make a tier list (IMO)

This is how I would have it, and I actually know how to use all of these characters. And Thug really does know how to play Jade. So that makes 2 people playing her to her full ability, how else can you really judge her? I changed more than just Jade, but this is just my opinion. Not tryin to act like I KNOW EVERYTHING.



01) Bo' Rai Cho
02) Noob-Smoke
03) Dairou
04) Shujinko
05) Kobra
06) Ashrah
07) Darrius
08) Scorpion
09) Mileena
10) Tanya
11) Liu Kang
12) Kabal
13) Jade
14) Raiden
15) Nightwolf
16) Hotaru
17) Li Mei
18) Baraka
19) Ermac
20) Kenshi
21) Sub-Zero
22) Sindel
23) Havik
24) Kira



Otherwise your list is pretty much on point.

Thug, don't be a fool. I used get to rank 200 easy back when I played this using my two best characters, and they're both lower mid tier(sub-zero and ermac).

Half of you people cry and bitch about turtling and "counter". Should be the last person talking about playing to win.

Wicca, most Li Mei players are garbage. The only good Li Meis I know are yourself,thug,dave,dan,konqrr and me. Tanya doesn't counter Li Mei at all. You're very good with Tanya so maybe that's wy you fight LM well. Also because Li Mei is your main and you know her weaknesses.

wtf does that prove??

cockrod rank 69 ( was as high as 43) using just mileena and SINDEL. using SINDEL ALOT!! getting to this rank i fought guys like aldagod, moe, spac, thug (he was still a rookie tho at the time) and vlad during my winning streak. mileena was used vs vlad and alda mainly.. alda always FUCKING countered my sindel w/ his crazy ass hotaru. but vs the rest sindel was used alot. i wanted to prove to myself that a sindel player can get high in the rankings.. but that still doesnt prove anything. shes still low tier and always will be (until i can master her OTG, i am so positive i found it after her leg grab give me time to work it lol ) so getting up in rank means shit. come on really dont sit there and tell me that your not using her OTG infinite, i know you to well. YOU DAMN HUSSY

by the way yayo and thug, ermacs and smokes unbreakables dont lead into infinites AND their 1st hits can be defended. really guys TRY HARDER to counter my arguement. sindel has a unbreakable i do it all the time, if i had some combo skills i could actually get more damage out of it. and guys imagine MY sindel being able to do her fjow pai into weapon cs combo the 111,3,cs44. man i have so many options (50/50 mix ups) from it, but sadly i just cant get it to work in the middle of a heated battle


my list

1~BO
2~N/S
3~Jinko
4~Ashrah
5~dairou~totally different foe off line
6~Scorpion~would be #1 if there were no glitches in this game.
7~Mileena~mmmmmmmmmmm muhahahhahahahaha
8~Kobra
9~Kabal~master the spin!
10~Darrius~totally different foe off line
11~Liu Kang
12~Tanya~enter in her glitches shes a horse! i dont use them, maybe i shouldnt care about legit play..
13~Raiden
14~Hotaru
15~Baraka
16~Sub-Zero
17~Sindel~imagine me having checks combo skills. he has done her 111,111,111,111,111,111,111,111,111 100% combo on me before. if you/we want to add all the characters FULL POTENTIAL, by being able to do 100% combos (especially since hers is so easy to start) then shes belongs in top 5. to bad i have ZERO combo skills why oh why please elder gods tell me why i have zero combo skills??
18~Ermac
19~Nightwolf
20~Jade~yeah sure she can deal out damage and has a otg infinite, but really when do these chances of her doing a combo happen in high level play? her mid hits are just as bad as kiras.. really guys come on??
21~Li Mei
22~Kenshi
23~Havik
24~ Kira

So i'm not considered a good player anymore?


I'm Surprised that that i have not made more of a of a splash


hell i've beaten every one on here cept thug and spac is a series

by a big margine
so i guess when your silent for a while your forgotten about.

well our overall matchs yayo is me 10 you 3 most of these were played in one game spurts and i play under voyager and unlost-V now

10-3? ive only played the id voyager once over the year, never a series. that was just recently, 1-0 you. i recall beating you when you was 1320, dont remember the exact score but i do recall you had 0 lol. dont know how you arrived at 10-3 when i was letting moe own you, you called me a speed user back in the day too when you've never even fought me. tell me how you got 10 on me.