I think Darrius should be beside Kobra or even above him
Darrius can be god-tier if used to the fullest

Shujinko should be under N/S
Liu Kang should be beside Scorpion

Seems alright

Darris is definetly not better than Ashrah. When played at her highest level of stupidity(ala Konqrr and Dan) then she's a lot tougher to handle than Darrius. Liu Kang is definetly not better than Mileena and Scorpion is better than them both. Shujinko isn't better than Kobra either.

If you want more in depth reasons just let me know.

Darrius is not as good as everyone thinks he is. He's definitely top 10, but not as high as you put him. 3 in his weapon stance is UNSAFE. It recovers quickly, but you can't block for 2 seconds or so. Once you block it, his 3 in weapon stance, do a Mid Hit to him. It will always connect. In my opinion, Shujinko is not as good as Kobra. Liu is just barely top 10. He's is quite unsafe. After a blocked f+2, throw out a mid to him and he's screwed LOL. Not being mean, everyone has their own opinions, but this is just explaining some of the reasons why things are put the way they are. =)

LMFAO ok your wrong


NS > bo

Jinko >bo

i will bet you 5 ill prove that list wrong

ashrah better than darr? LMFAO

Sub zero better than kira? pfft please

man that list is wack

Havik >sub

W E A K

also its about matchups liukang though can be up their trust me, hes a beast u gotta know how to use him. i say he can end the round the quickest faster than a blink of an eye. also f2 followed by a down 1 is safe in the corner. its just u cant do f2 out in the open, 113 is a ultra safe combo. and his 2nd stance makes him so flippin fast u can side step and shoot fireballs extremely fast and safe. trust me he is up their maybe next to kobra deff higher then mileena

yall gotta stop making these tiers list, especially for people who dont play all 24 characters at high level against all 24 characters at high level.

Dom Dizzle - 1, 1, 3 is not 100% safe. Most people will just do 1, 1, 3 with him non stop, so you know exatly when to hit them. If you do 1, 1, 3 and I block and then try and hit you right after the 3, you're going to get hit. Also, I'm pretty sure that when you use f+2, it's never safe from a mid. Perhaps your d+1 may hit, but the mid will hit also. d+1 does 3% while the mid most likely will do 10-11%. not safe at all...

Yayo - Why do you care if people make these or not? You don't have to click on them, but yet you do anyways? You have the right to post what you want here, and I have the right to do it, too. If you don't like it, don't click on my posts. Or just leave the site, whatever works for you. =)

did i say you cant make tiers list? you dont realize that whenever you make tier listings like these that holds no evidence in your findings, noobs will see it and will be under the impression that it is a fact. my days on mkd i have been pulled more on when using Bo'rai Cho then i do on N/S, and my N/S does ss free throw after ss free throw. what does that make the pullers? makes em scrubs because they read a scrubs tiers list.

this tier listing is stupid, yet again you guys decided not to include the glitches that can be exploited(most of them get exploited on a regular basis). when you make a tiers list, nothing should be excluded. next time u decide to make a tiers list, get expert opinion on the matter from thug and molson. no turtlers and crybabies. Jinko > Bo.

You have got to be joking. Shujinko is basically the same as Bo' Rai Cho, but not quite as good. Shujinko's throw can be broken, while Bo's cannot. Shujinko has to be close up in order to get his free throw with 4, while Bo can be mid screen and have his f+3 hit. Bo's f+2 after throw then 50/50 just plain owns and his unbreakable. Bo is in a tier all by himself. A good Bo' Rai Cho is nearly unbeatable, while Shujinko can be beaten quite easily. How can you even say Shujinko is better than Bo' Rai Cho? Do you even know how to use Shujinko? And last time I checked, my Bo' Rai Cho beats yours 10-2, did it not? Trust me, Shujinko is not better. If he were, I would've put him at #1. I'd actually prefer him over Bo, but Bo is the almighty god tier of this game. He's at #1 and he will always be there, that's it.

- quick recover into powerfist ss free throw after breaker.
- teleslam reaches further then bo's staff, comes out lightning quick. Bo whiffs F+3, shujinko does backdash teleslam who wins?
- teleslam walkover is a free throw is it not? u should use this freethrow from long range while shaolin fist: 4, free throw up close.
- teleslam and throw can lead into huge combos, 100% can be achieved online.

once again get some expert opinion on things, shujinko beats bo in everyway its just 99% of jinko users dont know how to use him. yall still think crk is godly when i beat him 11-6 but when i played thugs jinko we go even. molson, noobe, thug all consider him to be better then bo and they all have legit reasons, you however believe shujinkos at a disadvantage cuz his throw is breakable.

1: NS
2: Jinko
3: bo


NS Owns bo in all ways, ns does 100% every time he hits you... well atleast i do, ns grab is perfect, ns has an otg that leads into free grab that leads into free cloud that leads into 50% all doable online, f3 sucks 2,4,4 is better than f3

Shujinko's flame fist does not lead into a free throw like Kobra's does. You can't get a free flame fist off of a breaker if you block. The teleslam won't even come out in time before Bo's stick hits. Fact is, Bo's stick owns every character in this game. Also, by the things that you just said, I can tell you don't even play Shujinko, so why are you even arguing? Shujinko loses a lot more than Bo. Shujinko's teleslam leads to free throw and hits mid. Bo's f+3 leads to a free throw and hits mid. Both hit from mid range. If Shu's teleslam is blocked, his opponent gets a free hit. If Bo's f+3 is blocked, his opponent gets nothing. Shujinko is not, nor will he ever be better than Shujinko...

Noob-Smoke can own Bo, or be owned by Bo. Same goes with basically every character and Noob-Smoke. Noob-Smoke is great when used right, but anyone can beat him, which is why he isn't #1. Bo's stick owns everything, that's all there is to it.

hey if were talking about all glitches go. then A~shrah is in a tier by herself at #1...

teleslam reaches further then bo's f+3, the reason you think teleslam sucks is cuz you spam it too much. its not a move that should be spammed on the regular such as bo's f+3. this is why crk's shujinko was better then yours, he reacted to his opponent with teleslam and never did he toss that shit out because he felt like it. its easy for a good jinko to get up close to a good bo no doubt about it, when he does bo is done.

There's no infinites or continuous OTG's being taken into consideration. If there were, many people would be higher than Bo. Most people consider free throws, throw glitches, and an OTG to be legit, while infinites and partial infinites are not. 2 OTGs is a partial infinite considering it can lead into a time infinite.

take into consideration what tactics are being used and not what a scrub can do.

The teleslam is a great move, but it's nothing like f+3. All Bo has to do is block a teleslam and he gets a free throw plus a free f+2. And last time I played you Ermac vs. Bo, I won 10-9. Ermac's teleslam doesn't even hit mid, and I spam it too much? I use the telethrow more than anything. Whatever, I'm done arguing. You go on and think that Shujinko is better. I really do not care.

This coming from a guy who complains about Ashrah's free throw? Get that shit outta here. This shit is done, find a different forum to post in. Or better yet, why don't you go on MK and practice your Bo. Maybe one day it'll beat mine. o_O

For whatever its worth, I think Shujinko is stronger than bo. I really wish more people would use him. I wanna practice with more Bos. Its like people labled Bo users as cheap, tacky and noobish so hardly anyone uses him.

I agree with the top tiers but the low mid tiers are off.

Li Mei is no way near Hotaru, Kenshi is too high, Raiden is stronger then Nightwolf and Tanya is better than Li Mei, Sindel, Kenshi and Havik.

Quik...I've never played ANYONE who I could interrupt their unsafe move spamming with Darrius (Weap 3) or Liu (f+2)...EVER. Even on Xbox I'd try and could not do it without trading hits. Online is different. You guys must have a kickass connection or something. Most people can spam Dairou Escrima b+1 all day too and I can't do shit about it.

And no way in HELL is Tanya #23. She is mostly unsafe, but her invisibility makes up for it. Plus she is very safe in Yue Chuan when used right.

And a kick ass easy throw combo

when did i ever complain about ashrah free throw? when i was playing dan i told him i lost because my bo's outdated, same reason i lost to your bo. you are a hypocrite, i remember when you couldnt beat bo and had to resort to infinites. now i see you on these boards ever so often complaining about people who do "partial infinites". get a life, cuz from what i see the only game you can play is mk:d, no skill.