I dare say more people could name Kitana than Kano, which is my point.
People outside of the MK fanbase are aware of the male and female ninjas. Granted, they might know Scorpion or Sub-Zero by name, but Kitana is one of the MKII characters to surpass predecessors (like Kano and Sonya), to the point where a lot of very casual gamers mistake her for an original character.

Thanks to the movies, she's recognised as a more important character, and that's translated into the games. I'd say Kitana has effectively taken over the role of heroic female lead from Sonya, whose relevance has fluctuated since her initial appearance.

These are the only characters that I would consider "Iconic" or who have a clear counterpart in the DC universe (hence Havik's inclusion- Havik & Joker). I think we can expect about half of these characters to appear.

1) Sub-Zero
2) Scorpion
3) Raiden
4) Liu Kang
5) Sonya
6) Jax
7) Kitana
8) Mileena
9) Reptile
10) Shang Tsung
11) Quan Chi
12) Baraka
13) Cyrax
14) Sektor
15) Noob
16) Kabal
17) Kenshi
18) Johnny Cage
19) Kano
20) Shao Kahn
21) Havik
22) Goro
23) Kung Lao
24) Shinnok
25) Shujinko
26) Taven

Here are my DC possibilities:

1) Batman
2) Superman
3) Wonder Woman
4) Flash
5) Aquaman
6) Green Lantern
7) Green Arrow
8) Martian Manhunter
9) Hawkman
10) Hawkwoman
11) Deathstroke
12) Lobo
13) Joker
14) Bane
15) Killer Croc
16) V
17) Darkseid
18) Lex Luthor
19) Brainiac
20) Doomsday
21) Cheetah
22) Black Canary
23) Catwoman
24) Nightwing
25) Two Face
26) Batgirl

Queve, you make it sound like Kitana, Mileena, and the other MKII characters were never marketed back in the day. When MK2 came out, they were plastered on just as many posters, comics, promos, etc and anyone else. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't MK2 widely considered the high point of Mortal Kombat? Wouldn't casual fans be just as, if not more, likely to remember the cast of characters from that game as MK1?

Maybe guys like Kano, Baraka, and Johnny Cage are icons in their way...but more iconic than Kitana, Shao Kahn, Mileena? I don't believe that for a second. And I'm going to be brutally honest here: if the MK team really does figure Kano and Johnny Cage as more important icons than Mileena or Shao Kahn, I'm going to be fucking sick.

But this whole icon thing only proves the second point of my post: characters shouldn't be chosen soley on their "iconic" value....because they truth is, aside from it being very debatable, some characters become icons for really shallow or flat-out stupid reasons. One could make a case that Stryker is an icon because for a long time he was the "official" worst character ever.

The characters should also be chosen based on what they bring to the table and represent in Mortal Kombat. So in that regard, who do you think is more deserving of being in: the comic relief....or the femme fatale villainess? One of the main villains....or another henchman?

reptile i hope to god hes in

all MK 1 character(maybe except for Kano) and Mileena and Kitana.
it make sense...
Cage
Sonya
Rayden
Liu
Subby
scorpy
Goro
Reptile
shang tsung
mileena
kitana


for the DC
superman
batman
wonderwoman
flash
joker
lex luthor
constantine
V(these two wouold fit perfectly)
green lantern
and other two famous guys

lol, Kano was very popular and iconic, but how ever he's been missing too many games since MK4 and well he's fallen out of the public eye. LOL, get it? Eye? lol, ummm...ok....well i thought it was funny :)

Agreed, no way Kano is the third popular icnonic MK character..I'd say Liu Kang or Raiden would be next in line after Sub and Scorpion honestly.

I do hope Ermac makes the cut, it would be nice if Fujin did too. At least one of them.

Guessing DC's roster will be a bit more difficult then MK's, we all know Shang, Shao Kahn will be in there for the baddies and besides Sub, Scorp I'm betting Raiden, Kang, Sonya and maybe Reptile. I do hope Ermac makes the cut though. I won't be surprised if Quan makes it either.

Kano is the ultimate HUMAN bad guy. Every other bad guy is some kind of ninja or sorceror but Kano was the FIRST bad guy. Scorpion wasn't really a bad guy, he just wanted revenge. There are 10 people in the original MK that they could put in.

1) Scorpion
2) Sub-Zero
3) Kano
4) Raiden
5) Liu Kang
6) Johnny Cage
7) Sonya Blade
8) Goro
9) Reptile
10) Shang Tsung

Hopefully they will have these 10 in it. Even Sub-Zero's costume more closely resembles the original Sub-Zero costume and he said that this game might not take into account the other games.

The only other iconic characters I can think of would be Baraka, Shao Kahn and Kitana. Might lose Reptile as well unless he is one of the more reptilian looking versions because there would be an abundance of ninjas and only one female.

My list of 10 had 5 GOOD guys (Raiden, Sub-Zero, Liu Kang, Johnny Cage, and Sonya Blade) it has 4 BAD guys (Kano, Reptile, Goro, and Shang Tsung) and one neutral (Scorpion). That is a pretty good variety and all Kano favoritism aside....what is more iconic than the originals?

Sub Zero;
Scorpion;
Reptile;
Kung Lao;
Shang Tsung;
Frost;
Kitana;
Mileena;
Goro;
Jade.

im living proof that Kitana is very Recognizable/Iconic. when ever i flash my Tatoo i get "OOOOO thats that Girl from that game/Movie......".


anyway im almost 100% for sure that the 10 characters from the 1st mk movie will be in this game.

Noob would be the next Iconic character on my list because he is behind both Sub-zero's and Scropion's storyline. The hating between these two Sub and Scropion would have never started if Scroppion had never assasinated Noob(original subzero), then Sub-zero went after Scropion where all the violence began........



If u disagree reply to this and i'll give you a better explaination why.. PS- Who gives out dragan points i didn't get none i did mad things by helping people- Crow get back at me

Raiden
Baraka
Lui Kang
Kitana
Mileena
Johny Cage
Kung Lao

There is no Lui Kang.

He will beon MK vs DC since hes real known.

I actually made Lui Kang in MKA. He was a sort of Bizarro version of Liu.

Hi, Queve!


I disagree with this part of your post. Mileena and Baraka were the stars of MK: Deception after Scorpion and Sub-Zero. I really think Mileena is more recognizable than Johnny and Kano now.

True that Mileena wasn't promoted much back in the day with the films and toon and stuff over Johnny, but for a character to remain iconic, they must be continuously promoted or else they fade into oblivion.

Mileena is a top star now along with Johnny but I think she exceeded his fame because of Deception and her highly popular MKA bio.

As for non-MK fans, I'm sure most people know few kombatants besides Scorp and Sub but anyone keeping up with MK even slightly has to know Mileena before Johnny and Kano these days due to her prominence in MKD and MKA. Johhny and Kano didn't even have roles in MKA konquest, but she did.

I think it's arguable that Mileena has become more prominent than Kitana as a face of MK but because she's a villain and not an important while Kitana is a hero and an important one, I think it's more likely that Kitana will be playable in MK vs DC.


I agree except for Quan Chi, Kano, and Kung Lao.

Quan Chi was only prominent in the unpopular MK4 and in MKDA but that's it. He's not continuously promoted and he's never done much outside the games.

Kano I'd say was iconic back in the day but I really feel that he's fallen from grace. I mean, how many Kano fans are there anymore? On this site alone I hardly here excited talk of him.

Kung Lao I would say is on the line of Jade or Noob. He's there but not at the top like many others, imo. He wasn't in either films. I don't remember him in the toon. He wasn't even that prominent is DA compared to others. This is why I was surprised to hear that the adventure game spin-off was gonna feature him as a main character.

One character that is iconic is Shao Kahn. Heroes can't be heroes without their villains. All iconic heroes come with famous villains right behind them and the most iconic villain of MK has got to be Shao Kahn. And he is quite continuously promoted or is at least made very visible in the games. So many stories have treated him as an essential character, stories from the games, films, toons, comics, etc. And his image is quite recognizable.

What I just said about Kano, Quan Chi, and Kung Lao is just my opinion. I could be way off for all I know, but I do know that Shao Kahn is iconic.

I don't really get it.

MK8 is not made for fans. It's made for a much larger public.
Ofcourse Mileena is a much better, ineresting and popular (among MK fans) than Kano, but you need to think of gamers in general, not MK fans. I doubt how many gamers wouldn't recognize Kano. And I can guarantee you that many will have no clue who Mileena is.

Kano is not popular, for 7 MK games all he ever wanted was to kill Sonya and shot stuff from his eye. BUT Kano was at MK1 times, when the general public played MK, when the general public watched the MK movie and played with MK cards. He is INSTANTLY recognizable. And that's what Midway wants.

It's more likely to happen the other way around if these gamers you're talking about are keeping up with modern games.


Yeah like 10 years ago. What has Midway done lately to keep him at the front of the line?

I just don't see Kano as one of the "stars" anymore. He has really faded from that, imo.

That same general public also played MK2 and I guarantee many would remember the ninja chick with a fucked up face who fought the other ninja chick with fans.


But also look at this from the DC side:
More people know and recognize Robin than a lot of other DC characters. But is or should he be in while someone like Green Lantern or the Flash is left out?

This game will introduce a lot of new fans to the DC universe and vice versa. Someone may recognize Robin or Kano more...but they should know that characters like Mileena and Green Lantern are more important.

-Liu Kang: Boring protagonist.

-Kitana: She's a female MK icon and her having fans for weapons made her stand out from other female warrior characters.

-Reptile: The first hidden character of MK; invisibility with reptilian powers makes him very unique.

-Shang Tsung: The iconic wizard of MK. He should have shapeshifting back and transform into dc characters.

-Goro: He will make it I have no doubt.

-Sub Zero: He's already confirmed.

-Sonya: She's the tough chick. They will need females and Sonya will be chosen by default.

-Scorpion: Wasn't he confirmed ?

-Shao Kahn: Every game needs a bondage-fanatic emperor.

-Cyrax: I have the feeling they will put a cyborg in the game and Cyrax has the net and grenades... more varied than Sektor's missiles.

-Raiden: He will make it, nuff said.

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-Mileena: She is Kitana's dark side. I dont think she will make it but I would like her to.

Quan Chi: He was very important during the MK story and I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the game.

I would take Noob Saibot over Johnny Cage anyday. He may not be one of the major icons of MK but he has a cult following, he is a very cool, unique character and he is arguably far too important to be left out. If anything, he should be the token hidden character, as hidden character is a role that he plays best. He is definitely the most mysterious of all MK characters, and even if he only plays a minor role in the story, he should be playable.

Really, I would say he is the iconic hidden character. Many might say Reptile, but Reptile has pretty much been established as one of the main cast. Noob Saibot is like the hidden character poster boy. For the first two or more games he appeared in, you couldn't even play as him and a casual player would probably not even know of his existence. Since then, he's evolved into more of a prime-time player, but I feel he still has not had his day in the sun.
Also of note, this game should introduce some lesser known characters that are definitely worth taking notice of to nonfans or fans of the other franchise. Noob definitely fits the bill.

That gets award for most badass tattoo ever. Period.

We also have to look at the contributions the characters made to the game and their popularity and what people remember them by. Whenever I get asked, "Whats your favorite video game?" by people who have played Mortal Kombat at some point in their life, they don't always remember the characters names, but I always get answers like this for certain characters:

"Oh! I like the guy that says "get over here!"

People remember and recognize these iconic characters for these reasons:

Scorpion: His quote, "Get over here!" That's probably THE MOST iconic quote in MK History. They remember he's the yellow ninja, his toasty fatality, his spear move and how he's a skeleton if he takes off his mask.

Sub Zero: The blue ninja! The one that freezes! Scorpion's worst enemy

Liu Kang: The annoying asian guy, the heroe, the "main" character.

Kitana: The blue girl ninja with the fans.

Raiden: The guy with the lighting moves, he has the cool hat

Reptile: The green ninja, the one with the long tounge. The SECRET character!

Goro: The big scary monster with the 4 arms

Mileena: The pink ninja, the evil twin, the girl with the nasty teeth.

Shang Tsung: The old guy at the end. His quote from the movie, "your soul is mine!"

Shao Kahn: He's probably the MAIN big bad ass Mortal Kombat has ever had.

Jax: His arms! The first and most popular black guy! He's Sonya's partner, he had that ground shake move. His quote, "gotcha!"

Sonya: The BLOND hot girl, the first female ever to be in Mortal Kombat. Her kiss of death fatality, she's "the cop."

Kano: The guy with the red eye

Johnny Cage: The movie star, Jean Claude Van Damn look alike. He's the funny one.

Baraka: The guy with the sharp teeth and knives coming out of his arms.

Kung Lao: The other asian guy with the cool hat!
Quan Chi: Would probably not be as recognizable as the characters listed above, but he has contributed a lot to the games.

If I'm talking about video games to the same group of people and mention characters like Kobra, Kira, Jarek, Shujinko, Dairou, Moloch, Sareena, Hsu Hao, Kai, Ashrah, Tanya, Bo Rai Cho, etc, they might know who they are, but chances are they won't. MAYBE if they had appeared in games back in the day when MK first had come out, they'd probably be more iconic and recognizable, but they haven't lived to that title yet. That's just being realistic.....

My guess for the Mortal Kombat and DC Universe characters are

Mortal Kombat
1. Scorpion
2. Sub-Zero
3. Raiden
4. Sonya
5. Shao Kahn
6. Goro
7. Shang Tsung
8. Liu Kang
9. Reptile
10. Kung Lao
11. Baraka

DC Universe
1. Superman
2. Batman
3. Wonder Woman
4. Flash
5. Green Lantern
6. The Joker
7. Mr. Freeze
8. Bane
9. Lex Luthor
10. Brainiac
11. Gorilla Grodd

Shao Kahn won't make it in unless he's a boss, and then he won't be playable I don't think. Same with Goro, so stop counting them in the rankings of the 11.

To be honest, I think it's going to be :

Scorpion
Sub Zero
Cage
Raiden
Kitana
Sonya
Reptile
Noob
Shang Tsung
Kang or Kung Lao...But please make it Kung Lao.