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09/07/2006 02:40 AM (UTC)
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Legacy Wrote:
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But this symbol isn't the same that Dairou has tattooed in his head? confused

No, Dairou's symbol is different.
Legacy Wrote:
Even though Daegon seems to be the evil one, I would have thought he would have gone to bigger things than the stupid Red Dragon. A son of a god shouldn't be part of a lowly criminal gang...

It's the Black Dragon that are thugs, the Red Dragon is more of an organised crime syndicate.
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the only thing about it is that his dragon seems to be gold and not red.
and the MKTeam is known for their copy and pastes.

The dragon is gold because he is wearing a red cape and I don't think they'd copy and paste something as obvious as the Red Dragon logo if they didn't intend for there to be a connection between a character and the organisation.

Well, they are more civilized than the Black Dragon, but you would still figure that a semi-god like Daegon would aim for higher positions like ruler of Outworld or something, not Red Dragon material.

Well, everyone has to start somewhere. Perhaps his train of thought is to eventually become the head of the organization (or an important enough member) to utilize its resources to help him in his quest. Seems perfectly logical to me.
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09/07/2006 02:41 AM (UTC)
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Or perhaps he became one of the new top guys of the organization for his own purposes.
Hey, it could happen.
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09/07/2006 02:55 AM (UTC)
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I didn't see anybody say this:
He's been sleep or what ever right? For a really long time?
So why can't he have been the leader of the Red Dragon, and anybody else simply be the followers of his ideals until he returned?
I think he was the originator of the ideals behind Red Dragons' emerge and probably the most potent member ever. Everybody else could just be the followers, fighting for a null and voided cause trying to become the leader of a regime they are only destined to follow in.
But I could be wrong of course.
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09/07/2006 02:59 AM (UTC)
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Well technically couldn't he also be a member of the Black Dragon then? Because the Black Dragon logo is the exact same just gray/black. The leader theory seems very plausible, because no there are not just two Red Dragon members, just two that we know of. The Black Dragon had Tasia, Tremor, and No Face in it. Characters never mentioned in the MK fighting series. Plus in Mavado's and or Hsu Hao's MKDA Konquest, it says that Mavado is a high ranking officer of the Red Dragon, NOT leader.
Think about it.......Daegon is Edenian correct? Edenians tend to live for a long time right? Example, Kitana being near or over 10,000 years old. As long as if Daegon was not in suspension his entire life, that means he had quite some time to do whatever. That being starting a organized criminal syndicate known as the Red Dragon, that would then spawn the Black Dragon.
Daegon is the son of a god or whatever, so expect big things from him. Starting a dangerous criminal organization such as the Red Dragon seems pretty big to me. That would give more history about the clan and push Daegon as a higher tier character. Him being the actually leader of the clan is way more plausible than just him joining. Because just him joining would take away from his hype. Him being the founder, that would feed the hype.
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09/07/2006 03:13 AM (UTC)
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Wasn't Daegon awakened prematurely? If so he could very well be the founder of the Red Dragon. Here's something else thats VERY interesing.
(Wiki)The Red Dragon clan built the Chamber of Artifacts to house the numerous tablets and treasures they have stolen. The most mysterious item is a large sword embedded in a giant green gem. They are trying to unlock its mysteries by constructing a large time piece with pressure sensitive chambers. It holds the same inscriptions that Quan Chi discovered in the ancient ruins. (/Wiki)
Now that definatly sounds like the hobby of a demi-god. Who knows what he could be trying to do. Hell, he could be trying to become an elder god.
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09/07/2006 03:26 AM (UTC)
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Good point.
It just didn't really make sense to me that he's been "sleep" for--forever and then he would wake up and decide to Join somebody elses clan.
For any reason...sinical or not.
Shit, If I'ma semi-god any time in my life and get frozen.... I'm not going to wake up after a million yrs or whatever and say:
"Hey, i wanna join the Crips as a BabyGangsta(BG) today. By golly I think that's what I'll do."
I'm sticking with "He is the founder/originator of the Red/Black Dragons' history"
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09/07/2006 03:28 AM (UTC)
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~Zol~ Wrote:
Wasn't Daegon awakened prematurely? If so he could very well be the founder of the Red Dragon. Here's something else thats VERY interesing.

If he is the founder of the Red Dragon then he would have created the organisation in his own time because it is centuries old, it wasn't just formed in MK:DA.
Also:
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No. Daegon isn't the brother who was awakened prematurely, Taven is. If you watch the intro to Konquest you will see that when Taven awakens the other monolith is still sealed.

~Zol~ Wrote:
(Wiki)The Red Dragon clan built the Chamber of Artifacts to house the numerous tablets and treasures they have stolen. The most mysterious item is a large sword embedded in a giant green gem. They are trying to unlock its mysteries by constructing a large time piece with pressure sensitive chambers. It holds the same inscriptions that Quan Chi discovered in the ancient ruins. (/Wiki)
Now that definatly sounds like the hobby of a demi-god. Who knows what he could be trying to do. Hell, he could be trying to become an elder god.

Why would he bother with the artifacts when becoming Argus' successor is the whole point of Taven and Daegon's quest?
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09/07/2006 04:34 AM (UTC)
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NinjaFromHell Wrote:
~Zol~ Wrote:
Wasn't Daegon awakened prematurely? If so he could very well be the founder of the Red Dragon. Here's something else thats VERY interesing.

If he is the founder of the Red Dragon then he would have created the organisation in his own time because it is centuries old, it wasn't just formed in MK:DA.
Also:
Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
No. Daegon isn't the brother who was awakened prematurely, Taven is. If you watch the intro to Konquest you will see that when Taven awakens the other monolith is still sealed.

~Zol~ Wrote:
(Wiki)The Red Dragon clan built the Chamber of Artifacts to house the numerous tablets and treasures they have stolen. The most mysterious item is a large sword embedded in a giant green gem. They are trying to unlock its mysteries by constructing a large time piece with pressure sensitive chambers. It holds the same inscriptions that Quan Chi discovered in the ancient ruins. (/Wiki)
Now that definatly sounds like the hobby of a demi-god. Who knows what he could be trying to do. Hell, he could be trying to become an elder god.

Why would he bother with the artifacts when becoming Argus' successor is the whole point of Taven and Daegon's quest?

Who knows. We don't really know enough about Daegon to decide either way. Yeah his Father sealed him and Taven in order to have their little competition. Does that mean Daegon is forced to follow this path? Not really. This whole Red Dragon thing is rather interesting and raises a lot of possibilities for Daegon.
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09/07/2006 04:45 AM (UTC)
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maybe u guys forgot the fact that maybe just maybe he joined the red dragon because they might help him on his jorney to become a god huh makes sence
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09/07/2006 04:58 AM (UTC)
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I'm going to agree with Legacy in an inverse way. I don't like the idea of Daegon involved with the Red Dragon, but because of what it does to the latter's story, not the former. I liked the potential of Mavado and the Red Dragon - it was a change from the stale Black Dragon/Kano rivalry; it presented a more cunning group of adversaries for Sonya et al.; while I never cared for Hsu Hao, it introduced in Mavado a stylish character with a neat and unique style of fighting. Yeah, a lot of the possibilities here went out the window in MK:D, and I realize that this isn't the only storyline that'll get abbreviated with the Armageddon concept. Now, though, the Red Dragon's just a prop in the backstory of Taven's antagonist, which is kind of "third cinder from the left in the corner of your screen" status. It's like the writers remembered that they had the Red Dragon on tap and decided to shoehorn them in any way they could, no matter the illogic.
(I also agree that mucking in crime-syndicatry is not exactly the domain of gods.)
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09/07/2006 05:26 AM (UTC)
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Ok, it's a crime syndicate, but I still think it's a much more serious organization then anything we have in our own world.
It's probably less petty then the most powerful mafia organization, and has goals that surpass low crass "organizations" like the crips.
We have to remember this is all set in a fantasy world, and even though there are obvious parallels with our own, that we can't just take all at face value threw our own perceptions.
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09/07/2006 06:04 AM (UTC)
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I don't understand... How could Daegon be a Red Dragon? He's supposed to be Edenian... confused
That's cool anyway... smile
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09/07/2006 06:46 AM (UTC)
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Im so glad boon and co made him RD.
I Alway's like that clan but no members really stood out to me.
Mavado was cool i just didn't care about him that much.
Daegon will easily fill this RD Void and fasantation i have.
Thanx midway! mean's alot.
By the way im also happy to see that he has Fu Jowpai. That's was a sick style of sindels.
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09/07/2006 10:35 AM (UTC)
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DK1983 Wrote:
I don't understand... How could Daegon be a Red Dragon? He's supposed to be Edenian... confused
That's cool anyway... smile

Well for all we know,he could be the Leader.
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09/07/2006 11:26 AM (UTC)
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If he is...
then probably Daegon hatched from his egg prematurely and formed the
leadership over the Red Dragon. Remember, they live over centuries /sad-
ly/ so it can be entirely plausible to give him enough time to overtake a Red
Dragon.
Him being a demigod means nothing. Chinese and japanese gods are very well mortal.
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09/07/2006 02:59 PM (UTC)
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ThePredator151 Wrote:
I didn't see anybody say this:
He's been sleep or what ever right? For a really long time?
So why can't he have been the leader of the Red Dragon, and anybody else simply be the followers of his ideals until he returned?
I think he was the originator of the ideals behind Red Dragons' emerge and probably the most potent member ever. Everybody else could just be the followers, fighting for a null and voided cause trying to become the leader of a regime they are only destined to follow in.
But I could be wrong of course.
ThePredator151 Wrote:
I didn't see anybody say this:
He's been sleep or what ever right? For a really long time?
So why can't he have been the leader of the Red Dragon, and anybody else simply be the followers of his ideals until he returned?
I think he was the originator of the ideals behind Red Dragons' emerge and probably the most potent member ever. Everybody else could just be the followers, fighting for a null and voided cause trying to become the leader of a regime they are only destined to follow in.
But I could be wrong of course.
ThePredator151 Wrote:
I didn't see anybody say this:
He's been sleep or what ever right? For a really long time?
So why can't he have been the leader of the Red Dragon, and anybody else simply be the followers of his ideals until he returned?
I think he was the originator of the ideals behind Red Dragons' emerge and probably the most potent member ever. Everybody else could just be the followers, fighting for a null and voided cause trying to become the leader of a regime they are only destined to follow in.
But I could be wrong of course.

It is said that one brother had awake before the other. How long before? We don't know but he surely had much time to prepare his plan. And I,m pretty sure daegon had awake before Taven and maybe it's because of that he has a scared face.
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09/07/2006 08:10 PM (UTC)
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Doesnt Taven have a dragon symbol on his back?
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09/07/2006 08:14 PM (UTC)
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This is an interesting thing to happen. I wonder if he's above Mavado in authority or below him. At any rate, it's nice to see another Red Dragon and this should definitely spice up Daegon's overall story. It's a shame this may not get to play out as well as it could though.
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09/07/2006 10:21 PM (UTC)
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JediTommy8 Wrote:
Doesnt Taven have a dragon symbol on his back?

Yes, Taven is Red Dragon too. *_* *falls out*
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09/07/2006 10:27 PM (UTC)
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i don't think he's a red dragon though...i think they just copy and pasted the image.
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09/08/2006 05:34 PM (UTC)
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Taven and Daegon are fraternal twins. Im almost postive.
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09/08/2006 06:00 PM (UTC)
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tgrant Wrote:
This is an interesting thing to happen. I wonder if he's above Mavado in authority or below him.

Mavado better be on top. wink
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09/08/2006 06:10 PM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
Taven and Daegon are fraternal twins. Im almost postive.
it'd be odd if they were since most fraternal twins don't looks alike.
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09/08/2006 09:13 PM (UTC)
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man raiden is going to be pissed if daegon is a demi god and the founder of the red dragon, they became tsung and chi's men and if he did create the red dragons then shujinko could get of raidens shit list. or atleast put on a lower part. it is an interesting guess daegon and dragon sound closeall you need is to remove the e and put r infrount of a. could daegon be the one being in a human looking form?
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09/08/2006 09:33 PM (UTC)
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If Daegon is a Red Dragon I wonder if his weapon will be the sword from the chamber of artifacts level, or if he'll have something to do with it. Also if his is the creater i can understand him calling it the red dragon cause doesn't a dragon wake him and taven.
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