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03/14/2006 09:52 PM (UTC)
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Sorry for the delay guys.

Shang 33%
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Konqrr
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03/14/2006 09:53 PM (UTC)
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03/14/2006 09:54 PM (UTC)
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03/15/2006 03:40 PM (UTC)
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Thanks for the combos Konqrr.That Shang 32 is really beautiful.However, the other one, the 33% one, i think is blockable.I tried it on not so tall characters, but there is some delay before cs and the oponent falls on the ground.
Same could be said about Raiden.The last attack - b+2 in staff - can be blocked.If the combo is done on "shorter" combatants, then only the first hit will take damage, but the second will be blocked.
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03/15/2006 03:46 PM (UTC)
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we need to test this stuff out to see if it really is blockable o_O
konqrr, you know i love you dearly, but i have to be honest i think all of those combos are blockable. i HATE to say it, but in certain parts of those combos, when the opponent makes the grunting sounds like they are getting hit when standing up, as opposed to the sounds the make while getting hit in the air, that is when it becomes blockable.

i LOVE your ideas though, you have taken 2 characters that dont have much to work with, shang tsung and raiden, and have come up with some very interesting stuff. good work!

what i mean by that, the dont have any quick damaging pokes they can put in there to get some extra damage, like other charaters, such as li mei or frost. i love your videos man, ill put them up in the front.
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03/17/2006 06:20 PM (UTC)
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Nukes, i don't think that Konqrr's 32% combo with Shang is blockable.Quan Chi is not touching the ground.I mean, the cs attack hits him, while he is still in the air.May be i'm wrong, i'm not absolutely sure, but i think it's not blockable.
You said Raiden and Shang Tsung don't have much to work with.Heh, the person i really hate is Hsu Hao.For me, his wrestling style is completely useless in combos.That leaves him with only one big ground combo and it's his basic.That 51% corner combo is something really incredible, but again it's blockable.So in real gameplay you shouldn't expect more than 30% for exmple for a wall combo.Now that is really stupid.Don't know what were Midway thinking when they created him.
However you didn't say anything about a Kenshi wall combo.This is going to be like a dream come true.I think it should be something like this: you will need the wall for one of two reasons - for wall hit or for juggle.I chose the first option.There are 2 attacks, which will end with wall hit - bd+4 (telekenetic toss) or ff+2 (telekenetic push).But the only damage, that will do the toss however, will be the wall hit.So for final attack it should be a telekenetic push.Don't know really how it's gonna look like.May be juggle is a better option?What do you think?
well juggernaut there in lies the problem! its ironic that some characters have larger open air combos but thats just the way it is. you and me both know that kenshi will have a lower damage wall combo than his highest open air combo. some characters are just designed like that, raiden too. hsu hao has a 37% open air and a 41% wall i believe, as his highest guarenteed. anyway i hope that you are not dreaming of a kenshi wall combo that goes over 70% because i just dont see it happening... his high damage stuff takes his power up into play, and his telekentic push and toss dont really benefit from that too much... you see?


hsu hao only has 1 launcher, his 2 in sun moon, and you cant do much with it at all, you can barely break 30% if your lucky, and thats usually against the wall.

personally im working on a new quan chi wall combo, but its comming along slowly. but i think i can beat konqrrs... but we will have to see. ill post what im trying to do in a sec

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03/22/2006 08:20 PM (UTC)
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Here's my proposal for Kenshi wall combo:
San Shou: power up,cs,cs,bdb+1,d+1,bdb+1,d+1,bdb+1,ff+2 (wall hit) = 7 hits 66% damage
I'm not able to post a video, because my TV tuner has brokensad
very sorry to hear about your tv tuner! not sure exactly what you mean by that, when i play games on my tv i have the triple yellow/red/white plug. are you talking about the single plug that you must use with older tvs? LOL sorry im not sure what you mean juggernaut!

thats a very craft kenshi wall combo. the best part is all of the special moves, particularly the bdb+1, nice youve got 3 in there, thats dead sexy! well i will of course let you record that because its your combo and your videos are easily 10 times better quality than mine are.

with quan chi i am trying to find a poke in escrima and then do the style branch from escrima into broadswords, 4,4,cs etc. put i cant find a good poke to use, and i hate starting with the rising star special move launcher so im looking to use his standart dial a combo juggle. what do you think?
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03/23/2006 07:25 PM (UTC)
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Hopefuly it's warranty has not expired, so it should be fixed 'til next week.
Nukes, don't get me wrong.I would be more than grateful if you capture it, but i'm also pretty sure that you can beat it.Even in my wildest dreams i couldn't imagine there could be a full style branch Kenshi combo mixed with telekenetic slams, but you first showed us that nothing is impossible.Respect!
About Quan Chi - don't think you'll need an extra poke.Instead of rising star as a launcher you can do 3,1,b+1 in Escrima.So the combo should be something like this:
Escrima: power up,3,1,b+1,cs,cs,1,1,2,3,cs,4 = ?
LOL thanks, if you mean the scorpion wall combo (about nothing being impossible, when we thought that we could not get past 40% with him), you have much more skill than i do, i mean that kung lao wall combo with the extra 1 in mantis, i mean i couldnt do it and you finally did WITH a power up, RESPECT!

as for quan chi, thats what i meant, start with 3,1,b+1, and then add a poke after that juggle. ill work on it right now, and then ill post what i find ok?

keep working on the kenshi wall combo, but know in your heart that we cant go over 80% with kenshi with a wall...unless you count using the wall with other combos that also work in the air.. ill take a look with him ok?
found a higher kenshi wall combo, see what you think:

kenshi 73 wall

san shou:power up,cs,cs,(d,b+1),d+1,(d,b+1),d+1,(d,b+1),b+2,3(wall hit)=73%

OMFG! i think i found another kenshi wall combo, in fact i think its his BIGGEST damage YET!!! so far ive done it only with out a power up, but it came out to 64% with no power up!!! imagine how high it would be with a power up!

tai chi:(d,b+1),d+1,(d,b+1),d+1,(d,b+1)2,2,2,b+1=64%

san shou:power up,cs,cs,(d,b+1),d+1,(d,b+1),d+1,(d,b+1)2,2,2,b+1=??%

omg!! help me execute this!! i think its his highest yet!
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03/24/2006 02:57 PM (UTC)
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I also meant your 55%,56% and 82% Kenshi combos.When i watch them i really admire you, Nukes.You need great skills to perform something like that, not to mention the intellect you must have to create such a beauty.Respect for that!
WHAT?64% wall combo no power up?!That's insanity!It's gonna be like 80% damage or even more!Please, Nukes, post a video as soon as you capture it.That 73% combo sonds pretty cool to pass up, so if it's not a problem please record it too.
heh i like you juggernaut, its too bad that you are on the other side of the world otherwise i wish we could hang out someday.

I NEED YOUR HELP with this kenshi combo, i think its going to be his biggest yet! i try every night to get this combo to land, and i HAVE done it, only non powered up. so work with me here and i bet we have just discovered the next kenshi combo.

the magic to this combo is the 2,2,2,b+1 seems to add an immense amount of extra damage, even if you wouldn think it would. i will post a video of the kenshi 73% very soon i know you are looking forward to it.
ok i just finished the kenshi combo i was preaching about earlier, and it only does 79%... so ill keep looking for more damage, however its very close to his current max damage which i think is 83% if i remember correctly
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03/25/2006 05:41 PM (UTC)
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Nukes, man you're number 1!That's 79% damage for God sake!This is something really unique.I doubt someone else could ever think of it.If it wasn't you MKDA combos would never reach the variety that they have now.Just brilliant work, bro!All that is left to be done are the videos.Once again magnificent work!
lol, im no hero, but thanks very much for your kindness. dont forget that konqrr and yourself have also contibuted many unique and awesome combos!

about quan chi, i dont think i will be able to top konqrr's combo, i cant find a good poke to use, and the rising star special move is indeed the best launcher to use as it allows for the most damage with each attack.

as of right now, im thinking about a bo rai cho wall combo, who knows, im sure there are at least a few other undiscovered combos, especially with the hidden characters blaze and mokap since that are not played that often.

im trying to get an xbox soon, mainly for MK:armageddon, i know i dont need one yet since the game isnt comming until october, but i was planning on softmodding it and then going to put deadly alliance and deception onto the harddrive. then i will have instant loading!

also maybe a scorpion open air combo... such a shame he doesnt have more ill look into it. you trying to think of any more? arent you on spring break? also what are your plans for the summer, out of curiosity?
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03/25/2006 08:42 PM (UTC)
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My spring break will probably be in April, may be somewhere around 10-th.I haven't think about the summer yet, most likely i'll be gone for a week to the seaside.But first i must finish my education.You see, it's my last year in school and i must do something like "entrance" examination in every university in which i want to be accepted.Hope you understand what i mean.In other words, nowadays i barely have time to check my mail, because of studying.It's like living hell.But that's off the point.
Back to MK.I found something really interesting about Scorpion.Still experimenting though, it may be blockable.After a wall combo, you finish in 2,3,b+1, your opponent is like stunned.I mean he/she can't block and most importantly can't move.So if the timing is correct you'll be able to perform a hell fire,which will increase the damage to 43%.It's only a thesis for the moment, but i'm pretty sure it's not blockable.The delay is really short, think it's possible.What's your opinion?
P.S. And what are your plans for the summer?Are you gonna be on holiday or do you work somewhere?
right now i work for my family business. i dont make much, but its fun and nothing beats having relatives for your boss.

i went to college for 1 semester, finished the term, and then did not go back. i did well, but i decided it wasnt for me. also i had my front left car tire blow out on the way there, one day, and it scared the crap out of me, and i wanted to find something closer to home.

i finished some online classes for real estate but have yet to actually find a job. i live in a rural area so its harder than if you lived in a populated place.

i know exactly how you feel about school being a living hell. i am the same way, and i feel your pain. im the only one out of all of my friends that isnt finishing a degree so its hard to be the odd man out, and im sure someone of your intelligence will do just fine so hang in there man.

so you are from bulgaria, are you anywhere near Sofia?

about scorpion, i believe the 2,3,b+1 sends them flying at the end, if you could somehow avoid the wall, and i have done this time to time with frost, then YES, you are correct, scorpion's new highest damage combo is 43%!! congrautlations man, and here i did not think it could be beaten. you should capture this combo, and if you dont have time, i will do it, im going to buy a new tv today and im working on modding an xbox, so in the next week or so i should have some much better quality movies.

take care man.
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03/28/2006 03:41 PM (UTC)
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Thanks you sympathize me, Nukes.Yes, i live in Sofia, so if you ever have some business here in Bulgaria, just let me know.
Hey congratulations for your new tv.Looking forward to see how the new videos look like.
I thought of asking you to capture the new Scorpion video.I expect to receive back my tuner until friday, but don't think i'll have enough time to play MKDA.Pls do this for me.

Take care you too!
lol lucky guess huh? i just thought it might be near the capitol, so i guessed sofia, and there you are! thats cool, but you are literally half way across the world from me : (

ill be happy to capture your new scorpion combo. i just finished softmodding my friends xbox, so im going to go out and rent all of the mortal kombat games, and copy them to the harddrive, so i can enjoy mk with no loading times. and then i will capture your combo!

yeah the new tv i got has an S-VIDEO jack which is nice, so the picture quality is alot better than just using the yellow rca cable, my videos should look alot better now. also they might sound better.

also i just bought a dual rca male to single 1/8" jack converter, so that i can plug my xbox sound into my soundcard, an audigy 2 zs, and have it come out of my speakers, taking advantage of my sub woofer. also this enables me to record the sound comming out of my xbox at a software level which means high quality recording. so if no one makes the mortal kombat armageddon soundtrack, i might be able to save the day.

you take care man and dont let school get you down, i know it can be the worst feeling in the world.
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03/31/2006 08:37 PM (UTC)
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Congratulations again, Nukes!Those videos will definitely look and sound better now.I recieved back my tuner, but now i have problem with my windowssmileWhen i try to install the tuner's software, it constantly shows me an error.It's not a big trouble though, because for the last two moths i keep telling myself that i have to reinstall the windows.Now there is another reason to do it.My spring break has finally begun, which means i'll have some time to practice with combos.That Scorpion 43% combo gave me some new ideas, but first they must be tested.
actually, when you think about it, perhaps your new scorpion combo will not get as much damage? if you miss the wall, but take a hellfire, will the damage actually be MORE as we previously thought? perhaps it wont be, i will HAVE to check this out.

also, i have managed to put EVERY mortal kombat game on my xbox. mortal kombat 1,2,3 for the SNES emulator, mortal kombat 4 for the nintendo 64 emulator, and then mortal kombat deadly alliance, deception, and shaolin monks on the harddrive. LOL!
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