Will Smoke be back in MKX as an improved cyborg?
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posted11/28/2014 06:18 PM (UTC)by
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Maria_Linda
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If Smoke is back.... in MKX or MK11.... I hope Ed Boon makes him a copy-pasted, palette-swap version of Raiden from "Metal Gear Rising : Revengeance". I would NOT be mad at this, at all.

Raiden from Metal Gear Rising is the most flawless cyborg concept, ever. Whoever made his design is a huge genius, I cannot deal with the flawlessness.

I just wanted to put this idea out there, in case an MK team person stumbles upon this.

Smoke would instantly make the other MK cyborgs look like Power Ranger toys from the One Dollar store. grin


This would be the dialogue between Scorpion and Smoke :

-Scorpion : Wow, you are now epik and truly badaass, just like me!
-Smoke : Yes, finally, I am truly a fierce kombatant of your same level.
-Scorpion : I don't want to fight you and scratch your epik robotik kostume!

smile

What you think about this idea? smile
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11/21/2014 12:57 AM (UTC)
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You torture me, I'd love to see cyber smoke again, but it's highly unlikely. If he makes an appearance, I believe they will take the enenra route with him.
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OttoVonRuthless
11/21/2014 12:58 AM (UTC)
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If Smoke returns in MKX I wouldn't want his design to be a knock off of Raiden from Metal Gear Rising. I would want a unique design, not a rip off. Also I don't think NetherRealm Studios is looking at this forum too much because of garbage threads like these.
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SwingBatta
11/21/2014 01:00 AM (UTC)
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What do I think? I think Hankypanky strikes again.

Anyway, it would make zero sense for Smoke to suddenly return as a cyborg after spending the entire previous game in human form, even though he's inevitably going to be resurrected along with the other dead Earth warriors. It would also be stupid as it would conflict with the "Enenra" angle, which is the best thing to happen to him in terms of storyline.

And dream on if you think they're going to make him a palette swap of some other game's character.

Maria_Linda Wrote:

I just wanted to put this idea out there, in case an MK team person stumbles upon this.


I honestly don't think you have to worry about that.
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Maria_Linda
11/21/2014 01:02 AM (UTC)
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I am exaggerating when I say "copy-paste", but in all seriousness... IF that happened.... I would approve!

Kobra was practically a copy-paste of Ken, from Street Fighter.

So..... it would not be completely far-fetched to have a Smoke that looks very similar to Raiden in Metal Gear Rising.... I think. glasses
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SwingBatta
11/21/2014 01:05 AM (UTC)
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Maria_Linda Wrote:
So..... it would not be completely far-fetched to have a Smoke that looks very similar to Raiden in Metal Gear Rising.... I think.


It wouldn't be farfetched for NRS to then be hit with a copyright infringement suit as a result.
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Maria_Linda
11/21/2014 01:07 AM (UTC)
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Denizen Wrote:
You torture me, I'd love to see cyber smoke again, but it's highly unlikely. If he makes an appearance, I believe they will take the enenra route with him.


Enenra? Let me google that. I can't remember what happens to Smoke anymore lol...

John Vogel and Ed Boon konfuse me with all these twists and turns in the story.
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DarkenedSoul
11/21/2014 01:11 AM (UTC)
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Demon for main and Enera for alt.
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Maria_Linda
11/21/2014 01:26 AM (UTC)
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So "enenra"..... I looked it up :

"The Enenra are creatures of smoke and vapor who possess a shapeless form. They are at times created from the souls of slain mortals, and can return to their physical forms."

Smoke can do what he wants, he could be shapeless or a cyborg or a human.
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Maria_Linda
11/21/2014 01:42 AM (UTC)
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SwingBatta Wrote:
Maria_Linda Wrote:
So..... it would not be completely far-fetched to have a Smoke that looks very similar to Raiden in Metal Gear Rising.... I think.


It wouldn't be farfetched for NRS to then be hit with a copyright infringement suit as a result.


And of course, we don't want that. sad

Basically, I personally think Smoke needs to keep his long, straight hair.

A cyborg with long, visible hair. That would be kool for Smoke. A more ferocious-looking robot. Raiden-Metal-Gear-style. Yes.
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Icebaby
11/21/2014 01:47 AM (UTC)
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Maria_Linda Wrote:
If Smoke is back.... in MKX or MK11.... I hope Ed Boon makes him a copy-pasted, palette-swap version of Raiden from "Metal Gear Rising : Revengeance". I would NOT be mad at this, at all.


... I hate that you're a Metal Gear Solid fan. And I hope you are not incapable of understanding the whole "copyright infringement" concept in which Netherrealm Studios would be unable to "copy-pasted, palette-swap" Raiden as Smoke.

I don't care how fangirl crazy you are, it'll never happen. Even if Boon asks for permission, Kojima would most likely deny him and Netherrealm Studios the right unless he wants his own creations in their game.

The only game that he has wanted to see Metal Gear Solid characters in is Super Smash Bros.


Maria_Linda Wrote:
just wanted to put this idea out there, in case an MK team person stumbles upon this.


The cyborg concepts they have for their cyborg characters are fine. They don't need to desperately go to another developer, snag their creations to use for a character that has already been a cyborg.

Maria_Linda Wrote:
Smoke would instantly make the other MK cyborgs look like Power Ranger toys from the One Dollar store. grin


No, he wouldn't.

Maria_Linda Wrote:
This would be the dialogue between Scorpion and Smoke :

-Scorpion : Wow, you are now epik and truly badaass, just like me!
-Smoke : Yes, finally, I am truly a fierce kombatant of your same level.
-Scorpion : I don't want to fight you and scratch your epik robotik kostume!


No.

Maria_Linda Wrote:
What you think about this idea? smile


I think it's shit.

Maria_Linda Wrote:
So "enenra"..... I looked it up :

"The Enenra are creatures of smoke and vapor who possess a shapeless form. They are at times created from the souls of slain mortals, and can return to their physical forms."

Smoke can do what he wants, he could be shapeless or a cyborg or a human.


Smoke is an undead soldier in Quan Chi's army that we know of right now. If he is to have this demon side of him, he'll have it. Will he ever be a cyborg? Well, seeing how Sub-Zero was the one that got transformed and not him, I certainly doubt the Automation Program has a thing to hunt down undead and transform undead Lin Kuei assassins to become cyborgs.

I mean, come on.
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Maria_Linda
11/21/2014 02:03 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
Smoke is an undead soldier in Quan Chi's army that we know of right now. If he is to have this demon side of him, he'll have it. Will he ever be a cyborg? Well, seeing how Sub-Zero was the one that got transformed and not him, I certainly doubt the Automation Program has a thing to hunt down undead and transform undead Lin Kuei assassins to become cyborgs.

I mean, come on.


That's true. I almost forgot.

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Ed Boon himself and the rest the MK team also forgot. lol

Just at least I hope they let Smoke keep his long hair.
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KenshiMaster16
11/21/2014 02:58 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby; Your entire post made my day.

On the point of this topic though, Smoke should stay human if he indeed comes back to the world of the living. He had his time as a cybernetic ninja, give him some room to grow and breathe as a human ninja now. New horizons and all that.
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RedSumac
11/21/2014 04:10 AM (UTC)
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He won't.

Because it doesn't make sense.
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11/21/2014 05:41 AM (UTC)
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He's been a cyborg, he's been a human, he's been a nanomachine colony, and now we've found out that his true nature is that of a man fused with an enenra.

That's the direction we need to go. Forward, not backward.
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SwingBatta
11/21/2014 06:46 AM (UTC)
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Maria_Linda Wrote:
Basically, I personally think Smoke needs to keep his long, straight hair.

A cyborg with long, visible hair. That would be kool for Smoke. A more ferocious-looking robot. Raiden-Metal-Gear-style. Yes.


No, it wouldn't. Do you even think about something thoroughly first before posting it?
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thisiscourage
11/21/2014 01:41 PM (UTC)
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If smoke is back I just hope he keeps his long white hair. Only instead of having it float straight up like an idiot, it should just fall down around his shoulder's.


Really hoping he shows up as an enenra that can switch from smoke/vapor form to physical human form mid match, each form having its own set of benefits.

(something like zelda/sheik in supersmash bros melee.) Plus it would allow Smoke's story to progress in a new (imo much better) direction.
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11/21/2014 02:06 PM (UTC)
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Maria_Linda Wrote:
So "enenra"..... I looked it up :

"The Enenra are creatures of smoke and vapor who possess a shapeless form. They are at times created from the souls of slain mortals, and can return to their physical forms."

Smoke can do what he wants, he could be shapeless or a cyborg or a human.


Source, because that varies from the Kwaidan greatly.

EDIT: quoting the Mortal kombat wiki is not actually looking things up. It's like justifying my ideas with my own papers as source.
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KenshiMaster16
11/21/2014 02:48 PM (UTC)
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Shadaloo Wrote:
He's been a cyborg, he's been a human, he's been a nanomachine colony, and now we've found out that his true nature is that of a man fused with an enenra.

That's the direction we need to go. Forward, not backward.


lol Honestly, it's been so long since I've played the endings or arcade ladder in MK9, I completely forgot about that nugget of info. Now that I remember it, I am in agreement with you Shadaloo. So much untapped potential there, story and gameplay wise.
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11/21/2014 03:53 PM (UTC)
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every time you post I get angry


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Smoke should stay a human, Sub-Zero a cyborg with unique moves, and Frost the new Human Sub-Zero


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if anyone from Revengeance is to be in the game, it should be Senator Armstrong


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Nanomachines, son
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11/21/2014 05:13 PM (UTC)
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I can see it now.

Smoke is dead.
Comes back to life for whateverfuckingstupidreason.

"Hey Cyborg Sub-Zero, hows it hanging?"
"1 H473 7415 B0DY"
"Then let's switch! I luv u nonblood bro! Oh RAIDEN!"
*zappy zaps*
wow

Bam.
Cyborg Smoke is back, kills Sektor and Cyrax and the rest of the robo lin kuei operatives.

And that's how Human Subby comes back.

[WHO'S NEXT?]
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Onaga
11/21/2014 07:50 PM (UTC)
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Or how about when he reincarnates himself or whatever (couldn't he do that?)

How about we just go all MK 3 futuristic Ninja on him again and really slick him up with some updated techno ninja gear. There he can both be human and still look like a slick sci-fi ninja.
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11/21/2014 07:59 PM (UTC)
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Sometimes I don't think the community at large will be satisified until Smoke is a cybernetic human demonic enenra nanomachine colony man snake duck of some sort.
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11/27/2014 01:10 PM (UTC)
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Oooohhhh MGR..... i keep forgetting to pick that game up some time. Made by one of my fav dev studios and yes ive played it a lil onve and its totally bad ass..... Anyways in the direction things seem to be going, and considdering they now finally have the non stop "we want human smoke" request over and over at end.... I just dont see them doing it cuz makes that part of thr reboot totally pointless if they make smoke a cyborg again. And i simply dont see how it would really work at all story wise now any ways. Besides for cyrax and sektor, i think the whole cyber inititive deal will be well over with unless Sektor basically just repeats his timeline to a T.....

Anyways cyborg smoke? Dont care too much but id prefer not and dont see.it happenong
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11/27/2014 11:04 PM (UTC)
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Maria_Linda Wrote:
If Smoke is back.... in MKX or MK11.... I hope Ed Boon makes him a copy-pasted, palette-swap version of Raiden from "Metal Gear Rising : Revengeance". I would NOT be mad at this, at all.

Raiden from Metal Gear Rising is the most flawless cyborg concept, ever. Whoever made his design is a huge genius, I cannot deal with the flawlessness.

I just wanted to put this idea out there, in case an MK team person stumbles upon this.

Smoke would instantly make the other MK cyborgs look like Power Ranger toys from the One Dollar store. grin


This would be the dialogue between Scorpion and Smoke :

-Scorpion : Wow, you are now epik and truly badaass, just like me!
-Smoke : Yes, finally, I am truly a fierce kombatant of your same level.
-Scorpion : I don't want to fight you and scratch your epik robotik kostume!

smile

What you think about this idea? smile


No just no. He should comeback as a corrupted enera.
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