What Would You Have Done Differently? MKX Edition
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posted05/05/2015 12:44 AM (UTC)by
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KenshiMaster16
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So the game's been out for long enough now that I think everyone has a handle on everything that was given to us. So this begs the question;

What would you have done differently had you had a say?

Mine's simple; I would've just expanded the roster a bit. Not take anyone out, just add a little more flavor based on what we now know from the story.



Top Row: Goro, Kung Lao, Jax, Sonya, Kenshi, Kitana, Scorpion, Fujin, Sub-Zero, Mileena, Takeda, Cassie Cage, Jacqui Briggs, Kung Jin & Tanya.

Bottom Row: Shinnok, Li Mei, Kano, Johnny Cage, Erron Black, Liu Kang, Ermac, Raiden, Reptile, Ferra/Torr, D'Vorah, Kotal Kahn, Quan Chi, Rain & Tremor.

DLC would've been Frost, Sektor, Smoke, Predator, Bo' Rai Cho & Sareena.
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Thatoneguy
04/24/2015 09:44 AM (UTC)
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I actually agree with you!

I also wouldn't have given Reptile crappy costumes (However I do in fact like the actual reptilian body they gave him. His face is awesome, his scales and texture are awesome, and his poses are awesome. This is the only reptilian look I actually would prefer over his old ninja look, it's just needs a more ninja-esque costume over it.)
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Coltess
04/24/2015 10:03 AM (UTC)
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A lot more topless women on motorcycles.


Seriously though, someone said it not long ago and I agree with it, Ferra/Torr should have been the sub-boss. Goro, in my opinion, is totally unneccesary and having that in game purchase spot is a bit of a joke. I also think Kung Lao, Liu Kang, and Kitana were wasted spots. Their role in story mode is minimal, and lets be honest, if they weren't who they are popuparity-wise they'd be like Stryker. Finally, I like leaving Erron Black with a bit of mystery, but theres a difference between mystery and not developing.
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Zero_Jade
04/24/2015 11:15 AM (UTC)
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Looking at that photo makes me sad, as I realise how great the roster could have been! All the additions make sense, and would have given everyone more variety.

I'd have done the same if I'm honest, as well as expanding slightly on story mode. Not just making it longer but showing more on what happened in the 25 year span, particularity Mileena - I think she could have really done with a chapter this time around.

Also I wouldn't have inexplicably made Jade disappear. (Still bitter).

Gameplay wise I'm very satisfied, so I wouldn't change much there!
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KenshiMaster16
04/24/2015 11:57 AM (UTC)
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coltess Wrote:
A lot more topless women on motorcycles.


Seriously though, someone said it not long ago and I agree with it, Ferra/Torr should have been the sub-boss. Goro, in my opinion, is totally unneccesary and having that in game purchase spot is a bit of a joke. I also think Kung Lao, Liu Kang, and Kitana were wasted spots. Their role in story mode is minimal, and lets be honest, if they weren't who they are popuparity-wise they'd be like Stryker. Finally, I like leaving Erron Black with a bit of mystery, but theres a difference between mystery and not developing.


I actually agree with the Ferra/Torr bit. They would have made an interesting sub-boss.
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KungLaodoesntsuck
04/24/2015 11:57 AM (UTC)
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Change the box art.
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04/24/2015 12:35 PM (UTC)
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I would've made Tanya, Rain, and Fujin playable in the default roster and taken Goro out. I also would've made the playable revenant alts the defaults and the older alive versions alts. I also would've taken those weird glow lines away and just stuck with the freaky eyes like Scorpion.
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04/24/2015 01:33 PM (UTC)
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Fujin and Tanya would have been in the main roster(I don't even like Tanya that much,but she should have been in the main roster to begin with),along with Tremor(who would have been the unlockable) Sub's chapter would have involved at least 1 fight versus Sektor,and Sektor would have been in the main roster. Cyrax and Smoke would have been in the Kombat Pack(with Noob getting added at a later date) and obviously,no guests. there are more things,like more stages,for example,I would have also kept stage fatalities,and made brutalities more like the Shaolin Monks' brutality mode. Also,Kang,Kitana and Lao would have been saved as well in Sonya's chapter,with Lao being in exile,Kitana trying to restore order to Outworld,and Kang still bitter at Raiden,before they help Cassie's squad at the end of the game. Baraka wouldn't have died and Shinnok would have stayed alive. I would have also put off Dark Raiden for MK12,instead.
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Blade4693
04/24/2015 01:54 PM (UTC)
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I probably wont get too much into story related stuff for this post, just some random things off the top of my head lol

The Revenant alts would have been the primaries for Liu, Kitana, and Kung Lao. The revived/normal looks would have been the ones you have to unlock.

I wouldn't have put dooky on Sonya and Liu Kang's faces , I hate the black crap on their faces on some of their variations, Sonya's can make sense, but why Liu?

Lao, Kang, and Scorpion would NOT have had that long ass hair, I just don't dig it lol

Reptile would have had a "ninja" alternate costume, he could have stayed a giant lizard , but I would have given him one outfit that's more ninjaish lol

Kano wouldn't be in the game, he would have gotten off screened or killed in a cut scene, probably by Erron Black. Since Kano would be dead early on and not part of the story, I would have had Tremor "take his spot" (Leaving a DLC spot for somebody like Fujin or Reiko)

Ermac wouldn't look like a scrawny little twig. I also would have had an alternate (or variation) where his mouth is covered, hell probably just insert the mask from his alt in MK9.

Shinnok's Necromancer wouldn't have those puny T rex bone arms lol it just looks off to me, I would have came up with a different "variation cue" for that one.

Sub-Zero's Unbreakable mask would not have been made of ice lol


I might have made Johnny look more like his MK9 self in the face department, idk why but that Johnny just looks more like Johnny Cage to me lol

Kotal would have had a different alternate, man his alternate costume sucks lol

Lol this pretty much turned into a "What I would have not done" post but its whatever, these things don't really bother me that much, just some random nitpicks, I love the game how it is :)



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soldatmesteren
04/24/2015 02:16 PM (UTC)
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design the game around the notion that it is an online game, just like Killer Instinct.
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Shadowfire
04/24/2015 03:49 PM (UTC)
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I absolute agree with you KenshiMaster. If the roster was exactly the way you put it I would be happy with it. There could have been more chapters in the story mode. Would have like to see the outcome between Sub-Zero & Lin Kuei vs. Kotal Kahn & his army. Wish they would have kept the stage fatalities and test your sight. The box art should had feature more characters other then just Scorpion.
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Well, you all got your Tremor now. Can we finally move on?

04/24/2015 04:20 PM (UTC)
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Well, lets see.

1) Would've incorporated more of the comic into the main story - the Blood God/Kamidogu daggers are far more interesting than the story presented.

2) Omit Kitana, Liu Kang, Goro and Kung Lao (despite him being a personal favorite) from the playable roster.

3) Add Reiko, Tanya, Rain, Havik, Fujin and Noob Saibot to the roster and have them all factor into the story mode.

4) Feature Reiko as the first sub-boss (a la Shang Tsung in MK2)

5) Feature Enenra/Smoke as the "monster" sub-boss

6) Keep Shinnok/Corrupted Shinnok as final boss

7) No Jason, No Tremor

8) Kombat Pack 1 - Sareena, Li Mei, Ashrah, Frost (The Women of Kombat)

9) Kombat Pack 2/Guest Character Pack - Predator, Spawn, Taven, Daegon

10) Stage Fatalities

11) at least 4 more arenas, one of which would have to be an official Pit

12) "Kustomization Mode" - a costume color/doodad editor that allows you to customize up to 2 or 3 different looks per character.

13)Legacy Skin Pack, Rebirth Skin Pack, Vincent Proce Skin Pack

14) Secret Unlockables - Enenra for beating Story Mode, Corrupted Shinnok for beating Klassic Tower with all characters

15) Super Unlockable - Revenant Shao Kahn - unlocked in the krypt via a complex puzzle using all of the inventory items, which brings you to a secret fight set on very hard difficulty. Must have unlocked Enenra and Corrupted Shinnok first. Must have opened ALL Krypt locations. Must successfully bid koins at the gambling game for a sacred relic that would open the portal to the puzzle (high random drop rate, AFTER all krypt items opened).


Last but not least....

The new "Deadly Alliance" forged in story mode which turns the tide of the entire battle - Kuai Liang and Hanzo Hasashi, as hinted at in Sub's MK9 ending, and touched upon in Scorpion's chapter.


my biggest disappointment was story mode, and the almost unnecessary repeat inclusions on the roster. i know Kung, Liu and Kitana are favorites (they are all favorites of mine), but I feel that they were wasted slots.

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DjangoDrag
04/24/2015 04:24 PM (UTC)
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Netcode, netcode, and netcode. Build an entirely new engine from the ground up if that's what it takes. That is my only real MKX gripe.
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04/24/2015 04:25 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Change the box art.


This x1000.

oracle Wrote:
I would've made Tanya, Rain, and Fujin playable in the default roster and taken Goro out. I also would've made the playable revenant alts the defaults and the older alive versions alts.


Also this. Big time. Goro would have been dandy if he just had some story relevance. And those "living" primary outfits were incredibly misleading. In the worst way.

I also would have offed one or more of the parents/older kin. Just so people would know that they are truly being benched to make way for the descendants in the next game.

Lastly, playable Bo' Rai Cho.

I'll probably think of a few more minor things eventually that I'll edit in later on.
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04/24/2015 06:32 PM (UTC)
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At least 4 more Kharacters Havik, Fujin, Reiko & Tanya

Have a poll with 45 Kharacters that could fit the Story they want to tell and say the top 32 will make it in. But not show results the last month.

STAGE FATALITIES

Port over stages from MK9 that fit the Story
PIT & PIT BOTTOM
NETHERELM(HELL)
AMORY
SUBWAY

Have Revanent Shao Kahn as Super Unlockable

Announce the game like this
We will have ? Kharacters
we will have ? Arenas
We plan to reveal 2 kharacters and 2 Arenas a month until launch. If not ready scale it down.


this will give the community some thing to talk about.

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04/24/2015 07:04 PM (UTC)
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I think they were trying to do to much with this game... Their hearts were in the right place but they should have scaled back on some things.. and focused more on others...

- Factions... Kind of pointless... interesting concept.. I would have scrapped this and focused on creating more characters...

- Backgrounds.. All look beautiful.. but nothing remarkable.. Nothing I wouldn't be disappointed in if they never appeared in another mk game.. Should have added some Classics..
SHOULD HAVE ADDED A DAMN PIT STAGE. ITS A MORTAL KOMBAT STAPLE!!!!

- Variations.. I know it probably took a lot of time to come of with 3 different Variations... I would have spend less time thinking of 3 kind of different ones and given each character 2 very different ones... spent the extra time and data and storage in creating more characters + Backgrounds

- Characters- Yes I wanted more. That being said I think they copped out, wether it was for money, or for nostalgia sake... but Characters like Sonya, Jax, Liu Kang, and Kitana didn't need to be playable. I would have been happy with them as JUST NPC's.

-They didn't follow up with story threads that I really wanted to see followed up. Fire God Liu would have been awesome.... Enenra Smoke would have been Awesome.... Jerrod/Ermac dynamic explored more... Mystery woman in Jades Ending..

-Explain the "where the fuck are theys?" Where the fuck is KAI. He was set up as a major character in MK4.. When Shinnok first showed up... Now Kai isn't even mentioned as if he didn't even exist... Fujin showing up and being/looking awesome and then disappearing for the rest of the game.. Doesn't make sense... The Comic setting up Reiko and Havik... and then they aren't even mentioned or addressed... even though Reiko was a big part of the Shinnok invasion in MK4.. with ties to the Brotherhood of Shaddow as well as Shao Khan... Wheres NOOB? How the Fuck did Goro get his Arms back? Too many unanswered questions!!!

-I think this game has some of the worst endings out of the last 3 MK games. They really do nothing to set up the future story. I know most endings aren't cannon, but some of them are just WTF?..

Bottom line.. things I would have changed/done different:
1) More characters.. more diversity.. i.e not so many related/ special forces overload

2) Better backgrounds/ Iconic returning backgrounds

3) More story gaps filled in. Explain where missing characters are.

4)Spend more time on endings.

5) Less time/energy spent on game fluff.. I don't need mobil game.. I don't need 3 different variations.. 2 is plenty... I don't need faction wars.. I don't need a million different "Test your FILL IN THE BLANK side games"

I LOVED the game play... So for the next one. Keep the Gameplay the same and focus on:
-Better thought out Story.. Better explained.. less gaps.
-More Characters
-More and better backgrounds..

and BAM MKXI will be awesome!


EDIT- Also throw in some DAMN secrets? Remember MK2? Do they even remember how to make a REAL secret character? Making the boss the secret unlockable is stupid! Hide characters... make some unexpected character choices! No one expects Motaro.. Bring him back the next round.. it would be a huge shocker no one expects!!

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04/24/2015 07:06 PM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
So the game's been out for long enough now that I think everyone has a handle on everything that was given to us. So this begs the question;

What would you have done differently had you had a say?

Mine's simple; I would've just expanded the roster a bit. Not take anyone out, just add a little more flavor based on what we now know from the story.



Top Row: Goro, Kung Lao, Jax, Sonya, Kenshi, Kitana, Scorpion, Fujin, Sub-Zero, Mileena, Takeda, Cassie Cage, Jacqui Briggs, Kung Jin & Tanya.

Bottom Row: Shinnok, Li Mei, Kano, Johnny Cage, Erron Black, Liu Kang, Ermac, Raiden, Reptile, Ferra/Torr, D'Vorah, Kotal Kahn, Quan Chi, Rain & Tremor.

DLC would've been Frost, Sektor, Smoke, Predator, Bo' Rai Cho & Sareena.


Perfect! Though I'd replace Tremor with Sareena/Frost.
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SpellcraftQuill
04/24/2015 07:54 PM (UTC)
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Replace these characters:

Kung Lao with Fujin
Kitana with Tanya
Liu Kang with Rain
Johnny Cage with Bo Rai Cho
Sonya with Sareena
Jax with Reiko

Kung Lao, Kitana, Liu Kang, and Havik would be DLC
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Ascottpwns
04/24/2015 08:05 PM (UTC)
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No fightable NPCs

So Baraka, Tanya, Sindel, and Rain should all be on the main roster.

Give Tanya's DLC spot to Havik.

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KungLaodoesntsuck
04/24/2015 08:48 PM (UTC)
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Okay I actually have a big change I'd make.

GET RID OF THE POINTLESS VARIATION VISUAL CUES!

Seriously, we're not fucking blind or retarded. We can read the variations in the top left and right corner. Hell, there's even a little symbol that represents the variation. As if the name in the corner wasn't enough.

Here's why these variation visual cues are bullshit. They are straight up cockblocking customization from being in MK. How cool would it be to have Cassie's shades outside of Hollywood? Or Kung Lao's Buzzsaw hat in Hat Trick? Or to not have Shinnok's baby arms in Necromancer?

I'd do away with these pointless fucking visual aids and give MK full blown customization. Something MK has needed for YEARS.

Some of the costumes in this game are lame. Customization could let us fix or at least make the costumes a little better. Please NRS, invest in customization!
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Well, you all got your Tremor now. Can we finally move on?

04/24/2015 09:00 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Okay I actually have a big change I'd make.

GET RID OF THE POINTLESS VARIATION VISUAL CUES!

Seriously, we're not fucking blind or retarded. We can read the variations in the top left and right corner. Hell, there's even a little symbol that represents the variation. As if the name in the corner wasn't enough.

Here's why these variation visual cues are bullshit. They are straight up cockblocking customization from being in MK. How cool would it be to have Cassie's shades outside of Hollywood? Or Kung Lao's Buzzsaw hat in Hat Trick? Or to not have Shinnok's baby arms in Necromancer?

I'd do away with these pointless fucking visual aids and give MK full blown customization. Something MK has needed for YEARS.

Some of the costumes in this game are lame. Customization could let us fix or at least make the costumes a little better. Please NRS, invest in customization!


I'm with you. Totally. Been saying this for years myself. MK borrows from a lot of existing games...borrowing a costume design tool would NOT be a bad thing. And I'm not counting the crappy character creator from Armageddon...ugh.
Crappy? Last I remember MK Armageddon had one of the better character creators I've seen in any video game. You could do about 90% of what the roster could, outfit and moveset wise. Only thing was no boss characters.
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04/24/2015 09:12 PM (UTC)
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SpellcraftQuill Wrote:
Replace these characters:

Kung Lao with Fujin
Kitana with Tanya
Liu Kang with Rain
Johnny Cage with Bo Rai Cho
Sonya with Sareena
Jax with Reiko

Kung Lao, Kitana, Liu Kang, and Havik would be DLC


This & stage fatalities/more stages & it's a deal.
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OttoVonRuthless
04/24/2015 09:29 PM (UTC)
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More stages, other than that I'm loving the game
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04/24/2015 09:32 PM (UTC)
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^^^^ I agree... I would love a NEXT GEN version of Kreat-A-Fighter! Better detail... More Options...


Just make it so you can only play in certain online games... So people can't cry about other peoples Characters being unbalanced.
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