My thinking, is there's alot of different Kamidogu. The icons, are ones keeping the one being apart. Id, say the daggers are used for other purposes. I prefer this to having it retconned simply because the changed timeline happened only from MK1 up not the past established history

I think it's a retcon. It made more sense since they were called "weapons" before. Now they're really weapons!

To me it's ok the retcon, but if we want to find a reason of why now they're different, we could say that the symbols seen on the original timeline, were just avatars, and not the true form of the Komidogus.

Retcon. I think the symbols will stay though. For example, you can see the order symbol on raidens dagger. I didn't notice the other ones but they are probably there somewhere. Order one has the straight blade, chaos has the disfigured blade and the netherrealm one looks like a flame.

My question is: if reptile and devorah had their own realms once then where are their kamidogu?

I hope there is a legitimate reason, i hate retcons so much. Consistency FTW!!

Maybe Raiden/someone realised that killing Shao Kahn won't stop Onaga returning so he gathers the Kamidogu and transfers their power into daggers and gives them to different people/places for safekeeping.

The red Kamidogu could be the one that Kano curses Sub-Zero with in the comic. Is it the same one Raiden uses on himself? (I don't have comic yet)

Is it the same red Kamidogu where Jax got his rage in his MK:DA ending.

It's not the same one. There are 3 different ones in the comic.

The word "Kamidogu" could literally translate to "God-Blade"

Kami = Ancient Spirit

Dogu = Martial Arts Weapon

So yeah, the dagger approach just makes way more sense.

Well, originally, the explanation is that there are 6 "major" realms, not ONLY 6 realms. So that could be maintained on the new timeline, or maybe (I hope not) now there is a Komidogu for every realm that exist.

More precisely, they simply forgot about them.

Zaterra is gone, Vaeternus is not even mentioned anymore, Edenia was just Outworld originally... etc.

The MK cosmogony is a pile of thrown together stuff.

Lol fair enough. I like this better honestly, maybe put together it becomes a sword or whatever.

No Edenia was a Seperate realm to outworld. Sure they called it out world but that was from Kitanas Pow it was later revealed that they were merged. Kitana was two young to know that

Still waiting to someone forged the daggers from classic big icons in the new continuity...

I thought in the original timeline Edenia was it's own realm, it was conquered by Shao Kahn and merged into Outworld, and then after his defeat in MK3 Kitana and Sindel separated it from Outworld again?

Kitana's MK2 Bio state that her parents were the original rulers of Outworld. Sindel's ending is where they revealed that she and Jerrod ruled a realm called Edenia.

Team Retcon.

the daggers simply look better than the icons.

Simple as that.

I agree. They make way more sense as magical items/relics.

There are many realms, but not every realm has a Kamidogu. In Mortal Kombat Deception there were only six Kamidogu, and Shujinko only had to travel to the realms that had the kamidogu in them.

My idea is that the Kamidogu aren't just big icons, they're divine artifacts that can take on different forms. I would think it's possible for some powerful being to be able to change their shape if they want to. Personally I thought the icons were cool, but the dagger forms are a lot less bulky and I think that's slim.

No, it's not.




No, it wasn't.







Considering the king-of-the-hill clusterfuck currently happening in Outworld after Kahn's death, I'll be shocked if the vampires won't at least get a mention. If fucking Hsu Hao of all people got a cameo, I'm pretty sure Nitara will pop up somewhere. Hell, I bet we'll even catch a glimpse of what Vaeternus actually looks like. Personally, I'm hoping for full-on Castlevania.


They really don't, though.

I've said it before, but the whole point of the Kamidogu was that they were created when the universe as we know it came into existence. Before that, there were only the Elder Gods and the One Being. The idea that something like "a dagger" would even be a concept at that point in time is just weird to me.

In Deception, they weren't really well-defined enough to even be considered "artifacts," they were just these vague shapes. When you really get down to it, they were basically big dumb gym badges, but I kinda liked it that way. It was clear that somebody at NRS put some thought into the Kamidogu designs and what they were supposed to represent, and I really wouldn't mind seeing them become a part of the series iconography on par with the MK dragon.


Really, if it were up to me, I'd make them vaguely Lovecraftian.

It's like there are these strange objects of indeterminable purpose, and every time you glance away from it, it somehow seems to subtly change its shape, as if it exists in more than three dimensions, and the human mind is simply unable to comprehend their true nature. When you try to describe them or even remember what they look like, you are surprised to realize that you can't.

And the longer you look at it, the more you feel this odd kind of unease.
Not because it radiates power or because it feels evil and sinister or something banal like that. No, it just feels so impossibly ancient and otherworldly that your brain cannot even begin to decipher its purpose, and that very thought disturbs you...



Or, y'know, you can have knives. :/

Knives are cool too.

I hope they expand on the Kamidogu mythos more with these daggers. I think it would be a shame if they just retconned them into daggers.

Seems a little lame that the universe ends when you unite a handful of daggers =/

The daggers are Seperate from the sigil Kamidogu that Shujinko collected. I asked the writer on twitter, if the daggers or related to or a retcon of mk deception Kamidogu.

His answer was: they are very, very different

Thank goodness.

Ahhh, well there you go. Different set of Kamidogu all together. Mystery solved.

Okay, you changed my mind. I like your ideas about the Kamidogu.

Thanks for the find.

Yay! Avoided another unnecessary retcon!

Thank you for asking him. I guess the mystery is solved, then.