Ultimate Mortal Kombat 9 or Mortal Kombat 10 ?

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posted10/05/2013 10:18 PM (UTC)by

jpetrunak

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Now that Injustice is out, we can safely assume two things.

1. NRS is working on the next Mortal Kombat

2. The next Mortal Kombat will be a next gen title considering it probably won't launch for another two years.

So this has me thinking, do we want the next MK game to follow in Mortal Kombat (9's) foot steps, or do we want a complete overhaul.

One thing Netherrealm is known for is completely revamping Mortal Kombat titles.

The shift from MK II to MK3, MK3 to MK4, MK4 to Deadly Alliance, and Armageddon to Mortal Kombat 9 had such radically different play styles that these were essentially different fighting games sharing the same characters.

When you think of Street Fighter, you know how the characters are going to feel. When you pick Ryu in a street fighter game, you know exactly what his moves are going to be and how he is going to be used, where as when you pick Sub Zero, you know the concept of his moves, but he feels radically different from game to game.

So do you guys want the next MK to improve on MK9, add characters and features, but keep the returning characters basically the same with the exception of some balancing changes and additional moves, or do you want to learn these characters and their combo's all over again ?

Personally, I think NRS really nailed it with MK9. It has a distinctive feel that makes it Mortal Kombat and has a flow that is unique. I would like to see a transition closer to MK1 to MKII, where its more fluid, and has a ton of new features, alities ect, but I really don't want a complete overhaul of the games mechanics or feel.

The only thing I would really like to see change dramatically would be the games art direction. I know NRS loves the Unreal Engine, but I would personally love to see MK go back to its photo realistic roots, and ditch the plastic action figures covered in shiny slime look that unreal is known for.

Sports titles have been digitally scanning athletes for years into games, so why not digitally scan actors in costume into the game and skin over the 3D models ?

Discuss.

Icebaby

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•05/12/2013 02:55 AM (UTC) •

Just want a new game.

Tazer_Gunshot

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•05/12/2013 06:56 AM (UTC) •

MK 2011 is really not MK 9. It is more like MK 8. You cannot count MKvsDC as part of the MK saga. MKvsDC is more of a side game. With that being said, MK 9 should come out late next year.
They have everything they need, all they only need now are the characters, movesets, stages, etc.
Apart from that, they should just kill the MK saga/series.

Martin_Jacob22

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•05/14/2013 12:45 AM (UTC) •

I rather have the game stay the way it is, at least in the gameplay. I think when they set up the latest MK title they meant to stick with it for a while. I also think changing this might dissappoint alot of fans. But thats just my opinion. No for the graphics. I like it the way it is. It doesnt have a complete cartoony feel to it anymore for me like the 3D era games did. If they were to graphicly inhance this. Which I believe they will because of the PS4. Im not sure how they would do that. Realism isnt always a good thing for games. But anyhow whatever type of graphical inhancement they use, It would have to be toned down enough to play on the ps3. If the games released in 2014 I dont think their willbeenough ps4 players buyng the game to make a profit.

Just noticed I got off topic lol,

I would love to have a MK10, I really want to learn more abou the current story line. It left us with a cliffhanger and everything. I wont accept anything else.

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•05/15/2013 12:15 PM (UTC) •

Tazer_Gunshot Wrote:
MK 2011 is really not MK 9. It is more like MK 8. You cannot count MKvsDC as part of the MK saga. MKvsDC is more of a side game.

Exactly. MK vs DCU is nothing more than a “what if” scenario. It's not canon with the core storyline whatsoever. Why people consider MK vs DCU as MK8 and MK 2011 as MK9 is beyond me. MK 2011 is MK8 and it's sequel will be MK9.

“Those were $500 sunglasses Asshole.”

JohnBoyAdvance

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•05/19/2013 07:47 PM (UTC) •

Ed and Co consider MK Vs DCU - MK8 probably because of the advances in the engine etc.

Who are we to slap our cocks in his face and SAY nope?

Kinda wouldn't mind an Ultimate Mortal Kombat 9 at the moment now.
changes:
1) Unique body models
2) 1 more "New/Updated" costume for everyone
3) Friendships
4) Couple of extra story mode chapters
5) Chameleon/Khameleon hidden fights in arcade

Save the major shite for Mortal Kombat 10: The Xening.

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•05/20/2013 07:34 PM (UTC) •

JohnBoyAdvance Wrote:
Ed and Co consider MK Vs DCU - MK8 probably because of the advances in the engine etc.

I've never heard or read this anywhere..

JohnBoyAdvance Wrote:
4) Couple of extra story mode chapters

Agreed. I've always wanted some bad guy chapters to be included as some DLC. Ideally Reptile, Quan Chi, Noob Saibot, and Shang Tsung.

JohnBoyAdvance Wrote:
5) Chameleon/Khameleon hidden fights in arcade

Khameleon would be awesome but I don't ever wanna see Chameleon again.

“Those were $500 sunglasses Asshole.”

JohnBoyAdvance

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•05/21/2013 11:09 AM (UTC) •

Quantile Wrote:

JohnBoyAdvance Wrote:
Ed and Co consider MK Vs DCU - MK8 probably because of the advances in the engine etc.

I've never heard or read this anywhere..

JohnBoyAdvance Wrote:
4) Couple of extra story mode chapters

Agreed. I've always wanted some bad guy chapters to be included as some DLC. Ideally Reptile, Quan Chi, Noob Saibot, and Shang Tsung.

JohnBoyAdvance Wrote:
5) Chameleon/Khameleon hidden fights in arcade

Khameleon would be awesome but I don't ever wanna see Chameleon again.

“Those were $500 sunglasses Asshole.”

Pretty sure that was the case.

Cant understand the outright hatred Chameleon gets.

Quantile

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•05/21/2013 09:11 PM (UTC) •

JohnBoyAdvance Wrote:
Cant understand the outright hatred Chameleon gets.

I'm gonna say it's the same reason I'm not a fan of him either. Statistically people either love Kameleon or love Chameleon and hate the other. There's usually no grey area with those two. Since neither of them ever got their fair shot as permanent characters in the storyline I think we all feel like the other Kh\Ch we don't like steals the other one's thunder..

Regardless of who hates who, if an Ultimate version of MK2011 is ever released, both Khameleon and Chameleon should absolutely be DLC.

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•05/25/2013 02:57 PM (UTC) •

I dunno, Ultimate MK9? What characters would you put in that would fit this part of the timeline? Tremor? Cyber Reptile? Maybe some secondary characters from the movie like Art Lean or Master Boyd? Maybe you make Goro, Kintaro and Shao Khan playable?

Assuming you want probably 4-6 new characters (if not more), would any of those options really help sell an upgraded version of a game that would likely be over three years old when the upgrade hits retail?

Yeah, I'd love more MK9. More story mode chapters (especially from the villains perspectives), more moves for existing characters, more backgrounds, more modes to play through and beat...

But I think that more than all of that, I want to see what they do, and what happens next. Sure, there's always a chance that they take some big gamble with the look of the game or the gameplay and it falls flat (though MK9 did restore a lot of my faith in their ability to get it right), but I want to see the next chapters play out, with more new characters, an even more refined gameplay system and a story mode (and other modes) that improve on what worked so well in MK9.

I don't know if they'll stray too far from what worked so well, but if they do, at least now that thought doesn't make me so nervous. So bring on MK10. Here's hoping the wait will be worth it!

MKDennis1980

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•06/18/2013 09:50 AM (UTC) •

NRS should do 4 more characters and four more classic stages.
Bring in the extras from the Vita and there you have it...
UMK9

james25

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•06/19/2013 04:44 PM (UTC) •

yeah exactly what i want! umk9 with some additions and small needed changes plus 4 new characters! (tanya, reiko, fujin and kai preferable). that would be awesome! this will make that awesome game fresh and mk10 can wait.

Tazer_Gunshot

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•06/19/2013 10:06 PM (UTC) •

It will be called Mortal Kombat 2014.

lizhe8282

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•06/28/2013 02:38 AM (UTC) •

Icebaby

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•06/28/2013 03:12 AM (UTC) •

It's been two years since the release of the last Mortal Kombat game with a different game released not too long ago... I don't think any more add ons will be heading towards Mortal Kombat 2011.

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•07/04/2013 09:13 PM (UTC) •

Tazer_Gunshot Wrote:
MK 2011 is really not MK 9. It is more like MK 8. You cannot count MKvsDC as part of the MK saga. MKvsDC is more of a side game. With that being said, MK 9 should come out late next year.
They have everything they need, all they only need now are the characters, movesets, stages, etc.
Apart from that, they should just kill the MK saga/series.

MkvsDC IS MK8. Its been confirmed. I wish people would get over it already. Without it we wouldn't have got MK9.

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•07/05/2013 12:00 AM (UTC) •

If they did re do it I think a longer story mode with side stories for the dlc characters

New characters maybe just the mk4 characters added

Classic fatalities ie Sonya kiss of death, katana kiss of death, Shang tsung soul steal, mileena psyco stab etc

More costumes like cyborg smoke, jade mkd alt, Sonya mk1 costume,

Animalities

Playable kintaro goro and shao Kahn

Mk hd kollection (the scrapped remake) haha

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•07/05/2013 06:18 AM (UTC) •

Technically, you have to think, if that's how we're playing, we have to consider UMK3=MK4, MK Trilogy=MK5, MK4=MK6, MK;SP=MK7, MK;M-SZ=MK8, and Deadly Alliance Falls at MK9. Deception is 10, Shaolin Monks is 11, Unchained is 13, Ultimate Mortal Kombat(DS) is 14, Armageddon is 15, and that pits MKvDC at 16. This would put MK9 at the 17th game, not including releases of the same game on different platforms, or MK9 on PC or Vita, or the differences in SNES and Sega Genesis versions of the classic games. Shaolin Monks, UMK(DS), MK;SP, MK;M-SZ, and Unchained all are outside games, that obliterate te storyline. With what you said, we have to concur that Shaoin Monks was Deception's sequel- but then; Liu Kang is human and we're back at the MK2 storyline already. That said, MKvDCU was not a canon game to it's plot story, as if it were, we'd have an unexplained story of Liu Kang's rebirth, Raiden returning to normal, and Scorpion regaining his anger at Sub-Zero. MKvDCU was only a side-story. The engine upgrade didn't matter. If the gameplay always mattered to make a game a true sequel, the Shaolin Monks woud've been a sequel under that logic.

LucaTurilli

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•07/13/2013 01:20 AM (UTC) •

I would prefer MK10. UMK9 would be cool, though.

MK needs refinements outside of just balance.

There needs to be less of a focus on zoning for MK 10. Not every character should have a projectile, but better ways to deal with them.I think some characters needs redesigned move-sets, especially Kenshi.

Kenshi is much better than his previous renditions in the 3D series, but he's still not there, yet. Take away the Noob Saibot-esque clones and give him real telekinetic swordplay

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•07/13/2013 09:33 PM (UTC) •

legoslayer10 Wrote:
Technically, you have to think, if that's how we're playing, we have to consider UMK3=MK4, MK Trilogy=MK5, MK4=MK6, MK;SP=MK7, MK;M-SZ=MK8, and Deadly Alliance Falls at MK9. Deception is 10, Shaolin Monks is 11, Unchained is 13, Ultimate Mortal Kombat(DS) is 14, Armageddon is 15, and that pits MKvDC at 16. This would put MK9 at the 17th game, not including releases of the same game on different platforms, or MK9 on PC or Vita, or the differences in SNES and Sega Genesis versions of the classic games. Shaolin Monks, UMK(DS), MK;SP, MK;M-SZ, and Unchained all are outside games, that obliterate te storyline. With what you said, we have to concur that Shaoin Monks was Deception's sequel- but then; Liu Kang is human and we're back at the MK2 storyline already. That said, MKvDCU was not a canon game to it's plot story, as if it were, we'd have an unexplained story of Liu Kang's rebirth, Raiden returning to normal, and Scorpion regaining his anger at Sub-Zero. MKvDCU was only a side-story. The engine upgrade didn't matter. If the gameplay always mattered to make a game a true sequel, the Shaolin Monks woud've been a sequel under that logic.

Well said.

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Rockchalk5477

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•07/13/2013 11:14 PM (UTC) •

legoslayer10 Wrote:That said, MKvDCU was not a canon game to it's plot story, as if it were, we'd have an unexplained story of Liu Kang's rebirth, Raiden returning to normal, and Scorpion regaining his anger at Sub-Zero. MKvDCU was only a side-story.

I was fairly certain MK vs DCU was set during MK3's timeline, seeing as how it started with Shao Kahn being offed after Outworld's attempted invasion of Earthrealm (which happened in MK3,) and Shinnok was still lurking around with Quan Chi as his helper. If it were post-MK4, I'm pretty sure Quan Chi and Shinnok would not be working together unless it was a last resort, like in Armageddon.

Scorpion didn't get over his vendetta with Sub-Zero, truly, till the end of MK4. Liu Kang didn't die until the events preceding Deadly Alliance, and Raiden wasn't amoral until the beginning of Deception. Also, Edenia wasn't separate from Outworld at that point in the timeline (according to Kitana's ending,) which means it couldn't possibly take place anytime from MK4 onward.

MKvsDCU was just a dumb spin-off set during the MK3 era and not during the time near Deception/Armageddon. Regardless, it's obviously not canonical anyway.

Back on topic, I'd rather wait for MK10 than just get an update on a two-year-old game.

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•07/15/2013 04:58 AM (UTC) •

I want MK10. I'd like them to explore the storylines of 4 and DA in one game. Because of Raiden changing the timeline I would like to see Shinnok get his due, Bephomet be put in the game and used as a sub-boss, Shinnok gets the amulet, gets control of the deadly alliance (they would be used as the first sub-boss and operate like noob-smoke), as well as Onaga's army.

Since they were constantly trying to reinvent MK's gameplay to compete with Street Fighter or Tekken, I think we all agree that MK2011 (fine, you win) knocked it out of the park. So I would like to see the characters evolve but retain a lot of their fighting style. As much as I loved Deception I was royally pissed off that they redid every character, though I understood why there was no way they could remain the same.

My question is does everyone think some of the gameplay additions from Injustice should show up. For instance Interactive levels, level transitions, the new life bar and round system (personally love, but haven't decided if I think it's right for MK), XP instead of coins, Icon and banners, and a beautiful menu that would make the Krypt unnecessary. The krypt was fun back in the 3D days but after about four coffins in MK2011 my love affair with the krypt ended. I would like to see friendships replaced (yeah I know they haven't returned) with a humiliation type fatality. Like Cage doing rapid fire crotch shots until the opponents eyes explode and they would run and scream yet not die. MK needs it's own version of the tea bag to add insult to injury.

MortalSidd

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•07/22/2013 06:25 AM (UTC) •

UMK9, I know everyone just wants to move along with the story but I feel there is just far too much with this game that hasn't been done and I find the lack of support to be highly disappointing. Look at how much stuff Injustice gets in comparison, already we've seen another season of characters coming into play amongst VARIOUS different costumes and updates.

When you think about the fact that the next MK game is going to be next gen, is it really that much to ask we get a final "all in" version of this game? I want to continue playing MK9 alongside whatever the next MK game is. at the very least a more complete version with the vita content, fixed netcode etc would be nice. This is supposed to be the game that defines NRS, why the lack of the support they've promised us?

oldmkfan

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•09/03/2013 08:09 AM (UTC) •

MK3,UMK3,and MKT were all the same. MK4,MK5 DA,MK6 D,MK7 A,thats the true order.

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•09/03/2013 12:38 PM (UTC) •

Where was this thread buried? Now, i wouldn't be surprised to see MK10 released somewhere next year, seing as how near the next generation consoles seem to be from us.

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