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03/22/2015 10:30 AM (UTC)
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I'm not a fan of the roster. Thought they would bring in post MK3 characters with a couple new ones in but nah. Just old ones that were dead, kids of old ones that were dead, and a few new ones. Blah.

I don't know. No likey Mr Mikey.
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everything crossed for Reiko

03/22/2015 10:36 AM (UTC)
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doesnt the combined total of characters and dlc make 29? pretty odd number.

im hoping (like injustice did) the most requested characters will be the last dlc

id like it to be Reiko (although im thinking he may be a hidden character) but im betting Fujin because he has an updated model. im sure Ed would have liked him to be in Mk9 if they had time (although he was in Kratos' ending)

then other than Kai and Jarek thats the mk4 lot covered
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03/22/2015 10:43 AM (UTC)
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steffuz Wrote:
dont like the roster much . but i know some people likes it . i hope they make a better one for the next game . but still i guess this game is gonna be great . just wish they had a bit more balance . anyhow just my opinion .


I am worried about balancing too. Some characters look overpowered already.
All I ask is not to nerf Kano again with no valid reasons like they did in MK9 and to reduce the overall gap between tiers (I don't expect tiers to magically disappear with this game, but at least I don't want to feel pressured that much to stick to another character when I face strong users).
I have opened a thread about balancing, but nobody visited yet; I hope I'm not the only one with these issues.

By the way, though I miss Rain, Fujin, Noob and the cyborgs, I am quite satisfied by the roster. The only character I don't like at all is Jacqueline Briggs. Bringing Jax back was more than enough, we didn't need another steel punched brawler.
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03/22/2015 02:52 PM (UTC)
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question is with everyone complaining about this games roster, would you be nuts and excited if the game lets say only had Sub and Scorpion and the rest was all new characters? it be interested but that's be completely honest why are people bitching about Kitana, Jax and Sonya returning but yet everyone wants Reiko and Fujin etc etc, NRS are trying their best to make a great game they are not that stupid they know if MKX was all new characters it would sell but not as highly as i think it will sell now

they are trying something different and for once have changed the designs and giving people some great gameplay and still we haven't seen everyone's gameplay. what is with all this hate for a game that is not even out yet. people bitched about wanting Tanya and Tremor well you got them and still people bitch geez can anyone be happy. it's just a game like i've said so many times i have posted comments NRS can not please everyone you know what i'm bitching about and hate i would LOVE WOULD LOVE for Sub Zero and Scorpion to just die and not show up ever again.

they dont need anymore ice characters or if they want create a whole new person different from Sub and Frost. but do people bitch about Sub or Scorp NO why is that they aren't popular characters as much as before and yet there they are first revealed in the first trailer.

usually the characters in the roster are important to the story you want the game to be balanced? if they add every character everyone wants this will be Mortal Kombat Armageddon part 2. that was fun but half the roster i never touched nor did i care for alot of them.

NRS is trying to erase their mistakes they did with alot of their characters and every game trying to be different and yet people are upset about it. the game is coming out in a few weeks why don't you all just wait get the game play it and see how everything works out then if you still do not like the game then go right ahead and bitch about.

so if you seriously are not happy cause the roster is too many good guys or your favorite is not there then you will be waiting a long time to see him or her back in the next game(s)

there is so much hate for a game that isn't even out yet and yet you call yourself MK Fan if your such a fan then be freaking happy a new MK is out just enjoy it

that is all
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03/22/2015 03:38 PM (UTC)
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"This is not a roster bitching thread"


Totally a roster bitching thread... dont change MKO.
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03/22/2015 03:41 PM (UTC)
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Kitana147 Wrote:
question is with everyone complaining about this games roster, would you be nuts and excited if the game lets say only had Sub and Scorpion and the rest was all new characters? it be interested but that's be completely honest why are people bitching about Kitana, Jax and Sonya returning but yet everyone wants Reiko and Fujin etc etc, NRS are trying their best to make a great game they are not that stupid they know if MKX was all new characters it would sell but not as highly as i think it will sell now

they are trying something different and for once have changed the designs and giving people some great gameplay and still we haven't seen everyone's gameplay. what is with all this hate for a game that is not even out yet. people bitched about wanting Tanya and Tremor well you got them and still people bitch geez can anyone be happy. it's just a game like i've said so many times i have posted comments NRS can not please everyone you know what i'm bitching about and hate i would LOVE WOULD LOVE for Sub Zero and Scorpion to just die and not show up ever again.

they dont need anymore ice characters or if they want create a whole new person different from Sub and Frost. but do people bitch about Sub or Scorp NO why is that they aren't popular characters as much as before and yet there they are first revealed in the first trailer.

usually the characters in the roster are important to the story you want the game to be balanced? if they add every character everyone wants this will be Mortal Kombat Armageddon part 2. that was fun but half the roster i never touched nor did i care for alot of them.

NRS is trying to erase their mistakes they did with alot of their characters and every game trying to be different and yet people are upset about it. the game is coming out in a few weeks why don't you all just wait get the game play it and see how everything works out then if you still do not like the game then go right ahead and bitch about.

so if you seriously are not happy cause the roster is too many good guys or your favorite is not there then you will be waiting a long time to see him or her back in the next game(s)

there is so much hate for a game that isn't even out yet and yet you call yourself MK Fan if your such a fan then be freaking happy a new MK is out just enjoy it

that is all


Ok, first of all, you clearly haven't really read the opinions about the roster, where do you get the idea people want the roster to be all new characters but Sub and Scorp' that's foolish exaggeration to make others opinion look unreasonable, why don't go all the way and say that if you don't like or wish the current roster was better that means you want a roster filled with different versions of Tsu-Hao and Jacqui?

Second, people are bitching because they wish more diversity, how can that be so hard to understand? obviously, the complain would imply reducing the MK9 copy-pasted roster a bit to leave space for some post MK2 characters.

And please, don't play the devil's advocate, NRS doesn't need you defending their interest nor you are qualified to spoke in their behalf. I don't see people complaining about the gameplay or most of the design choices. The returning roster is safe, expected and unbalanced in terms of game and faction representation, how is that hate?

Hate is a strong word that gets spewed incorrectly by those to get so emotionally attached to things like videogames to the point they can't fathom any form of criticism towards it for fear the game will get its feelings hurt. MKX has already gone Gold, its success it's secured, no matter how much people complain that wont change, shouldn't you be satisfied with that? If so, let people have their say about what they consider disappointing.



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03/22/2015 04:04 PM (UTC)
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Is the roster actually finished? 24 regular slots and 5 DLC seems low. Plus no word on the boss, sub boss, or secret characters.
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03/22/2015 04:26 PM (UTC)
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Kitana147 Wrote:
question is with everyone complaining about this games roster, would you be nuts and excited if the game lets say only had Sub and Scorpion and the rest was all new characters? it be interested but that's be completely honest why are people bitching about Kitana, Jax and Sonya returning but yet everyone wants Reiko and Fujin etc etc, NRS are trying their best to make a great game they are not that stupid they know if MKX was all new characters it would sell but not as highly as i think it will sell now

they are trying something different and for once have changed the designs and giving people some great gameplay and still we haven't seen everyone's gameplay. what is with all this hate for a game that is not even out yet. people bitched about wanting Tanya and Tremor well you got them and still people bitch geez can anyone be happy. it's just a game like i've said so many times i have posted comments NRS can not please everyone you know what i'm bitching about and hate i would LOVE WOULD LOVE for Sub Zero and Scorpion to just die and not show up ever again.

they dont need anymore ice characters or if they want create a whole new person different from Sub and Frost. but do people bitch about Sub or Scorp NO why is that they aren't popular characters as much as before and yet there they are first revealed in the first trailer.

usually the characters in the roster are important to the story you want the game to be balanced? if they add every character everyone wants this will be Mortal Kombat Armageddon part 2. that was fun but half the roster i never touched nor did i care for alot of them.

NRS is trying to erase their mistakes they did with alot of their characters and every game trying to be different and yet people are upset about it. the game is coming out in a few weeks why don't you all just wait get the game play it and see how everything works out then if you still do not like the game then go right ahead and bitch about.

so if you seriously are not happy cause the roster is too many good guys or your favorite is not there then you will be waiting a long time to see him or her back in the next game(s)

there is so much hate for a game that isn't even out yet and yet you call yourself MK Fan if your such a fan then be freaking happy a new MK is out just enjoy it

that is all


Ok, first of all, you clearly haven't really read the opinions about the roster, where do you get the idea people want the roster to be all new characters but Sub and Scorp' that's foolish exaggeration to make others opinion look unreasonable, why don't go all the way and say that if you don't like or wish the current roster was better that means you want a roster filled with different versions of Tsu-Hao and Jacqui?

Second, people are bitching because they wish more diversity, how can that be so hard to understand? obviously, the complain would imply reducing the MK9 copy-pasted roster a bit to leave space for some post MK2 characters.

And please, don't play the devil's advocate, NRS doesn't need you defending their interest nor you are qualified to spoke in their behalf. I don't see people complaining about the gameplay or most of the design choices. The returning roster is safe, expected and unbalanced in terms of game and faction representation, how is that hate?

Hate is a strong word that gets spewed incorrectly by those to get so emotionally attached to things like videogames to the point they can't fathom any form of criticism towards it for fear the game will get its feelings hurt. MKX has already gone Gold, its success it's secured, no matter how much people complain that wont change, shouldn't you be satisfied with that? If so, let people have their say about what they consider disappointing.



i guess you haven't read the thread either look around people hate the designs for majority of the characters and yeah people have spoken out on the gameplay people will say things like i love so and so but that variation does not suit them that much.

things i have seen/read:

Cassie: she looks amazing and funny like her dad, but now that her parents are in what is the point of her, you also can't do fatalities on family that is just wrong, her neck is so long update wow she looks better now

Kotal: oh cool i wonder what kind of god he is, OMG IS HE RELATED TO SHAO KAHN i mean he has the same last name, Update: oh so he is like an emperor cool cool, do you think he will die?

Jacqui: cool a new character but she looks lame now that her father is in why is Jax in now i thought he died, great now she is going to be a copy of him and boring just as him

Takeda: he looks so cool . . . . Update: his voice is so lame and now he reminds me of so and so, from that game

Kung Jin: he plays just like Arrow from Injustice -_- is MKX a copy of Injustice now, what is the point of him with Kung Lao is there why is Kung Lao in the game i thought he died

Erron BlacK: i hope he is in the game he is so cool in the comics Update: is he Sonya's Father? i hope his gameplay is cool or a ninja cowboy wth lame what a waste of space Havik be better

Ferra/Torr: so are they considered has two people? i mean they are cool but the fatalities are done on him wtf why does she just automatically died is she a girl i think she is a little girl, nah its a little woman she is the brains of the duo

D'Vorah: she is cool her gameplay is cool and finally a different race in the game i want to get to know her more and her race where does she come from etc etc

Raiden: the betrayer he has returned i wonder what his story is now is he bad or good? i got to see what will happen with his story

Kung Lao: why the fuck is he there wth i thought this was a new MK game wasn't he the first one to die in MK9 so both him and Kung Jin are both in what is the point of this?

Reptile: yay my favorite is in this game, his design look cool or he is back to a reptile and not a human -_- his gameplay is so cool omg i can't wait to play him

Kitana: WTF WHY IS SHE THERE WHAT IS THIS she died why are they bringing back so many dead people back but yet Kabal, Sindel are not in the game Update: omg sindel was shown she is def in, but her outfit is just a sightly upgrade to her mk9 i mean if kitana is in and with a new outfit sindel is too. wow her design is so cool she finally looks like an assassin princess but i hate her hair what is the point of that, oh i guess Jade is out now that her one variation is mournful R.I.P Jade

Ermac: omg he is in YAY, but what is up with his face now -_- he looks lame i liked his mask face better why couldnt they have given him mask now he looks like a mummy

Kano: he looks cool i wonder now if Jarek, Tremor and Kira will be in the game now, i thought the game was after mk9 to 25 yrs after too Kano hasn't aged badly, is it because he is half a human half robot

Goro: oh cool he is in a free dlc when you pre order, they keep promising his gameplay and oh look another stream and oh look no goro gameplay what is the point of him being in the game then,

Quan Chi: oh i guess he killed Moloch i man his head is in his intro, his design looks like a mix of his Mk4-MkDA that is so cool, i wonder what he will do does this mean the dead guys will be there will they help him out.

Shinnok: he is the main boss, no he isn't yes he is, OMG HE IS IN THE GAME I MEAN LOOK HE IS IN THE TRAILER DEF PLAYABLE CONFIRMED, he looks like zordon from the Power Ranger Movie, his outfit is sick i cant wait to play as him, why is he so skinny, he is deg playable everyone is

Johnny Cage: his design looks so bland, why is he there i thought with cassie he be out it be nice to have him not in the next few games i mean we have cassie she is like a mix of cage and sonya, how will two green orb shadow kicks work out? its so weird i don't want to do a fatality using a father and killing my daughter wth, i hope he is still funny, OMG WHY IS HE THERE SUCH A WASTE OF SPACE, Fujin, Tanya, Havik Reiko would be so much better

Sonya: same as above, OMG WHY SUCH A WASTE OF SPACE, she kinda looks like the actress who played her in the movie, finally she looks like a SF military person, wow her face is better, her forehead is abit wide don;t you think? she aged beautifully how old she is now like 50 wow she's a milf

Jax: why is he there he isn't popular such a waste of space he is such a boring character great now there is two metal arm type characters him and his daughter are so boring, i doubt jacqui will be in the next game

Mileena: OMG SHE LOOKS AMAZING, HER FACE LOOKS GORGEOUS, omg she is sexy but not slutty omg omg her gameplay is cool, but why are her variations kind of cartoony i wonder how she will be in story mode, etc etc

Sub Zero: is he Bi han, no its another sub zero, no its Bi Han no its Kuai Update well now we know which sub it is

Scorpion: oh his fatality is cool i mean he slit off of sub's face off

Liu Kang: IS HE THE BLOOD GOD THING IN THE TRAILER, we already know him, sonya and Cage are confirmed, but why haven't we seen him i mean is he in or not, I CANT WAIT TO SEE HIS GAMEPLAY OMG

Tanya: who wants her in, i hope she is in she be better than Kitana i mean tanya is more popular, Update OMG SHE IS IN but her outfit does not scream tanya to me but Cleopatra instead -_- why would they do that to her, omg her face is so fugly i hope this isnt her final look, why couldn't she be like the other tanya now what am i suppose to do

Tremor: OMG THE PETITION FOR HIM WORKED THEY LISTENED HE IS IN HE IS DEF IN, update what;s with the blond hair, why cant we see his face i hope he isn't a slow character i wonder what his variations will be, will he be a earth type character now let's petition for fujin, nitara, reiko and havik

Jason: cool a gust character but he be better for mk9 since the dlc there they never spoke how will the intros work now, i wonder what his fatalities will be i wonder what his variations and gameplay be like, OMG IF HE THERE DOES THAT MEAN SPAWN AND PREDATOR BE IN TOO, omg why is he there Spawn would be better then him

Predator: OMG HE IS THERE I HOPE SPAWN and Pin Head come next i hope they make a dlc 2, with him in does this mean no cyborgs no cyrax or sektor cause wtf, i wonder how he will play

omg they revealed the dlc who loves them, who doesnt BOOM threads on who you hate from the dlc and who you like, so please do not tell me i don't read the threads cause this is majority of what was said for the characters i have written alot i could write more some may not be a complete bitching but its not always nice comments

i'm not making these up

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03/22/2015 07:09 PM (UTC)
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Spaceman Wrote:
Its also annoying literally every single descendant is in with their relative. Like i get gameplay wise they'll all play super different and stuff, but story wise they all kinda fit the same 'generic good guy and friend to the hero' mold.


Is it possible to have good guys who aren't "friends to the hero"? Kenshi is the only one who has ever come close, because he mostly just wandered around doing his own thing -- but even he was always tied to the Special Forces. And what kinds of attributes would make a good guy not "generic"? Again, this seems to be an example of the Villains Are More Interesting bias. You just can't make a good guy that breaks the mold without making an antihero, which is its own tired cliché these days. But if complexity is what you want, this game's got it: MKX has the most grey-area characters since Deception. The motivations amongst the heroes and villains in MKX are possibly the most deep and complex that they've ever been.

And from what we've seen, does MKX even have a main hero that everyone's following, or is it just a bunch of good guys working together to fight a war? Because I don't see a main hero, and I barely even see a main faction. Most of the "Special Forces" characters aren't even from the SF. It's like saying that the Avengers are all members of SHIELD -- it may be nominally true, but it's completely missing the point.

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The only character I don't like at all is Jacqueline Briggs. Bringing Jax back was more than enough, we didn't need another steel punched brawler.


I thought the same thing at first, until the Story Trailer showed that she doesn't have a steel punch. Those gauntlets are some sort of guns and the metal doesn't even cover her hands -- what's covering her hands is basically a pair of open-palmed kickboxing gloves. You know, because of the kickboxing:



Jacqui has started to grow on me, because what she's actually doing is carrying on the legacy that her father almost had back in MK1 when he was supposed to be a kickboxer (named Kurtis Stryker) but Sonya took his place in the roster. When he was introduced, he was given more of a "powerhouse wrestlepuncher" archetype and they hyped up his strength. So Jacqui is, oddly enough, taking Jax into the future by returning to his lost roots. Seems pretty cool to me, now. She still strikes me as the least inspired newcomer, but in all fairness, she's no less inspired than many of the classic and 3D characters that people are wanting to see back, when they first started out.
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03/22/2015 07:29 PM (UTC)
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It should be a band of heroes fighting to protect their realm. But, why not have them in different factions?

You have the Lin Kuei, Special Forces and White Lotus. The Special Forces have more than the other 2 combined.
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03/22/2015 08:12 PM (UTC)
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annilation Wrote:
It should be a band of heroes fighting to protect their realm. But, why not have them in different factions?

You have the Lin Kuei, Special Forces and White Lotus. The Special Forces have more than the other 2 combined.


But I just said:
In any case, there may be a lot of characters working with the Special Forces, but one is a Shaolin monk, one is a Shirai Ryu, one is Kenshi who is always a wild card even when he's with the SF, and Johnny is the same Johnny as always.

Most of the "Special Forces" characters aren't even from the SF. It's like saying that the Avengers are all members of SHIELD -- it may be nominally true, but it's completely missing the point.


White Lotus: Raiden, Liu Kang(?), Kung Lao, Kung Jin
Lin Kuei: Sub-Zero
Shirai Ryu: Hanzo, Takeda
Special Forces (dedicated members): Sonya, Jax, Cassie, Jacqui
Wildcards (Chapter 1 shows them just tagging along): Johnny Cage, Kenshi

Plus whatever the hell Kitana is doing.
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