The Order Realm, Seto and Chaos Realm in MK7?
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The Order Realm, Seto and Chaos Realm in MK7?
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posted07/27/2005 04:39 AM (UTC)byLiu_Kang187Member Since
12/09/2004 03:09 PM (UTC)
do u think chars such as Havic or Hotaru or perhaps new chars from either of those realms will be in MK7? or has Ed Boon noticed a majority of ppl would like to see those realms and any one from those realms and any thing to do with them left out of MK7?
personally i hate the concept of the 2 realms and well i dont expect them to just go away and never be around again. but i dont want any one from either realm to be in MK7 or have either realm have any thing to do with the story for any one. im glad they tried the idea out tho but didnt work so well for most ppl.
i do predict Havic being in MK7 for story line purposes, and if he really does end up in MK7 i wont like it, but as long as they dont force the whole Chaos Realm and Order Realm thing ill live....
so whats ur take on this?
personally i hate the concept of the 2 realms and well i dont expect them to just go away and never be around again. but i dont want any one from either realm to be in MK7 or have either realm have any thing to do with the story for any one. im glad they tried the idea out tho but didnt work so well for most ppl.
i do predict Havic being in MK7 for story line purposes, and if he really does end up in MK7 i wont like it, but as long as they dont force the whole Chaos Realm and Order Realm thing ill live....
so whats ur take on this?
red_dragon •07/26/2005 12:33 PM (UTC) •
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I hope they do carry on with Seido (the Orderrealm) and Chaosrealm, but do more to include them with what's going on in the main storyline. The Orderrealm characters felt too seperate from the main story, with Dairou and Darrius almost irrelevant, and Hotaru just another henchman to Onaga.
Havik is the easiest character to carry on with. There are so many possibilities for a character who's sole aim is to cause anarchy for everyone. I hope Hotaru and Darrius are given a chance, and revamped for another game, I think they have potential. I actually quite like the idea behind Darrius, a freedom fighter/terrorist . Dairou can just die or drift away, his dumb moves and nothing storyline ruined him beyond repair.
Havik is the easiest character to carry on with. There are so many possibilities for a character who's sole aim is to cause anarchy for everyone. I hope Hotaru and Darrius are given a chance, and revamped for another game, I think they have potential. I actually quite like the idea behind Darrius, a freedom fighter/terrorist . Dairou can just die or drift away, his dumb moves and nothing storyline ruined him beyond repair.
krsx66 •07/26/2005 01:27 PM (UTC) •
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I'd like to see more involvement from the two realms in MK7. I thought they were two of the more interesting realms in Konquest, and though it's true what red_dragon said, that the Orderrealm characters felt too distant from the storyline in MK6, it doesn't mean they have to be in MK7.
First off, I think we need some stages set in both realms. Imagine the possibilities of cool arenas set in the plush, scenic Orderrealm, or chaotic, hectic Chaosrealm...This would force them to tie in the story to these realms, to justify having these stages in the game.
As for characters, Chaos realm has much potential, though I dunno how many more characters can come from Orderealm. Perhaps they should consider improving the 3 we got in MKD, instead of introducing more from that realm...
I don't agree. His concept in the MKDA krypt was very good, I think if they revamped him and gave him his originaly conceptualized look with the cool armour and double swords :
and new, non-shitty moves, then he could be a welcome addition to MK7.
First off, I think we need some stages set in both realms. Imagine the possibilities of cool arenas set in the plush, scenic Orderrealm, or chaotic, hectic Chaosrealm...This would force them to tie in the story to these realms, to justify having these stages in the game.
As for characters, Chaos realm has much potential, though I dunno how many more characters can come from Orderealm. Perhaps they should consider improving the 3 we got in MKD, instead of introducing more from that realm...
red_dragon Wrote:
Dairou can just die or drift away, his dumb moves and nothing storyline ruined him beyond repair.
Dairou can just die or drift away, his dumb moves and nothing storyline ruined him beyond repair.
I don't agree. His concept in the MKDA krypt was very good, I think if they revamped him and gave him his originaly conceptualized look with the cool armour and double swords :
and new, non-shitty moves, then he could be a welcome addition to MK7.
Sub-Zero_7th •07/26/2005 06:35 PM (UTC) •
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I'm sure we'll be seeing these two realms again and at least characters like Darrius and Havik.
Hotaru: Well, I thought he was sort of weak in the storyline in some ways, so I think he could have a revamp to his storyline. I would like to see him again. I like his looks though I don't understand about the no pupil thing. I hope that he'll be a bit less rigid, especially if he's going to have Pi Gua. Pi Gua is supposed to be a very fluid style.
Darrius: I'm not of a fan of him though I do like his primary costume look and he's pretty cool I guess. I hope his ending will happen and I would like to see what more they could do with his storyline since it does need more to it. I like his Gauntlets though he should use different kicks in them. I would like to see something else for his unarmed styles, something more fitting though Leopard does kind of suit him with the sneakiness aspect. I don't like the way he moves when he does his projectile, but the projectile itself is fine.
Dairou: I think that there's more to him than what most people think. He's not just revolved around Darrius and Hotaru. There is also Shujinko. I wonder if there will be any more development between the two characters. Also, if and when Dairou finds out about Darrius being the one who hired the assassin to kill his family, I'm sure we'll be seeing something there. But still, yeah, he does need more, but I do like him. I like the Wushu warrior look he has and that he uses Wing Chun. I like his moves, but they need to be balanced and not broken.
Havik: I really like this character and I hope to see him again. I would like to see a personalized fighting style and one that is very chaotic like he is.
Hotaru: Well, I thought he was sort of weak in the storyline in some ways, so I think he could have a revamp to his storyline. I would like to see him again. I like his looks though I don't understand about the no pupil thing. I hope that he'll be a bit less rigid, especially if he's going to have Pi Gua. Pi Gua is supposed to be a very fluid style.
Darrius: I'm not of a fan of him though I do like his primary costume look and he's pretty cool I guess. I hope his ending will happen and I would like to see what more they could do with his storyline since it does need more to it. I like his Gauntlets though he should use different kicks in them. I would like to see something else for his unarmed styles, something more fitting though Leopard does kind of suit him with the sneakiness aspect. I don't like the way he moves when he does his projectile, but the projectile itself is fine.
Dairou: I think that there's more to him than what most people think. He's not just revolved around Darrius and Hotaru. There is also Shujinko. I wonder if there will be any more development between the two characters. Also, if and when Dairou finds out about Darrius being the one who hired the assassin to kill his family, I'm sure we'll be seeing something there. But still, yeah, he does need more, but I do like him. I like the Wushu warrior look he has and that he uses Wing Chun. I like his moves, but they need to be balanced and not broken.
Havik: I really like this character and I hope to see him again. I would like to see a personalized fighting style and one that is very chaotic like he is.
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What I would like to see in MK7 is the Konqest that was in MKD. Then it could have all of the realms in it.
Peanut_Butter_Jelly •07/27/2005 01:03 AM (UTC) •
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I think we need to know more about these two realms. They just made their debut so they need to be given a second chance to get more detailed and intresting. In fact all of the characters (except Kobra and maybe Dairou) should be given a second chance.
Seido: The only thing we know about this realm is that it's just made up of laws. BORING! But if Darrius were to take it over then there would be a whole new storyline to it. After all, the law thing doesn't have much staying power and will quickly become stale.
Chaosrealm: Storyline wise it is better than Orderrealm. I know they are feuding with Seido but maybe they could ally with Outworld or something since they are both evil. The only problem is that there is only one character (Havik) and that I found it the most boring realm in Konquest.
Havik: Has the best storyline but the fact that Shao Kahn is indeed alive might hurt Havik. He should return to MK7 and I don't think Kabal's ending will be canon. Maybe he could do more chaos of course. He could help Darrius destroy Seido, ally with Shao Kahn, make a clone of Shao Kahn, maybe even resurrect Kano and piss him off with the Black Dragon, or even betray Kabal by resurrecting Mavado. Move wise he has some intresting moves and is also the only fighter to actually heal. But his combos and Morning star can be weak. He needs longer combos in Morning star and his Snake style should be stronger. I think he could shoot his projectile standing up as well. If Liu Kang can do it so should Havik.
Darrius: Is dependant on Havik otherwise he has no storyline. All he does is possibly take over Orderealm and that is all. But I don't wan't Darrius to kill Hotaru off as well. He is a very strong fighter with stong moves and combos. His fighting styles suit him very well, especially Leopard because he is a shfty, and sneaky person. I don't think he really needs improvement in moves. He has a lot of damaging moves already. Unfortunately I have a gut feeling that Darrius might be a one game character only. If he does make it to MK7 though he can be at Havik's side and destroy what's left of Seido.
Dairou: The worst of the four characters. Is not even really in the MK universe and only has links with two characters. Is totally dependent on Hotaru. So if he were to kill Hotaru then the only way to go is to find out that Darrius killed his family. This will just become yet another stupid Scorpion/Quan Chi revenge storyline. Also the fact that he is a mercenary also means that if Dairou were to live on he will just basically become a character killing machine, Kill Bill style. Dairou basically doesn't have much staying power. Move wise, Dairou is cheap, very cheap. His tombstone drop is rigged and can only be avoided by jumping it and then you become vulmerable to his next attack. His Autumn Dao is very powerful though. Basically you can't take this man seriously. How can you cause earthquakes by falling down onto your back, perform those weird moves in Autumn Dao especially the one where Dairou bends down and starts spinning, rip bones out of the opponents stomach and then stab them in their eyes and then make that fatality look hilarious, crush their body by putting pressure with only one foot, and end up looking like a present for a Hara-Kiri. He is also weird looking and ugly.
They should have put Dairou in MK: DA as his storyline for that game is way better. He was going to be a bloodthirsty assassin working for Shang Tsung. Now I know Dairou would be dead now but at least he would be a much solid character that way.
Hotaru: Isn't dependent as he has his own mission to kill Sub-Zero and Kenshi (like that is going to happen). However his law and order storyline could get stale soon. Since he is with Onaga and that Onaga dies, Hotaru will need a fresh storyline.
If he does survive for MK7 then Dairou will probably be dead. I know this is a long shot but story wise maybe those that served the now dead Dragon King get banished to the Netherealm. So when Hotaru gets banished there he could make an alliance with Noob Saibot so that he could help Noob Saibot take on Sub-Zero. Because of the Netherealm's corruption Hotaru wouldn't give a damn about law and order anymore, but hellfire and death. This is just my opinion as this should push him up and make a fresh start to him and bring him into the MK world properly.
Move wise Hotaru is a powerhouse when used properly. Kind to think about it he fights like a boss. You know how Kintaro hardly has any combos but just does a lot of damage. Well I guess Hotaru is facing that way. His combos need to be longer and he needs a better and stronger weapon. He needs more moves. I was thinking that he could shoot the lava burst straight like a projectile as well as his normal one. This would also give him a 50/50 mixup. Another move they could give him is something similar to Jade's move where she becomes immune to projectiles. I say this because he is based on an insect so he could raise his physical defence and become immune to physical attacks (instead of projectiles otherwise it'll be a rip off Jade) for two seconds. Since he is the biggest character in MK: D then he could use his size as an advantage. Maybe something like Quan Chi's teleport stomp. It'll also make a 50/50 mixup with grasshopper.
He's also the coolest looking character. And he isn't the only person without pupils. Sindel, Scorpion, Tanya and a few others don't have pupils either. Maybe it's an eternal aging thing.
So basically I want to know a little more about the two realms. Maybe even have levels for them. Obviously Havik and Darrius will try and eradicate what's left of Seido. I know it's a long shot but maybe Havik might bring the Black Dragon to Seido there as well. Maybe have one new character from Seido to defend the realm from those two. You could even have Stryker return to defend Seido since he likes law, but then again nobody likes him. I don't like Dairou so maybe have Hotaru kill him off. Hotaru could get sent to the Netherealm for his crimes for protecting the DK and make him turn really evil down there in hell.
Sorry I wrote a damn essay on it but that's my two cents.
Seido: The only thing we know about this realm is that it's just made up of laws. BORING! But if Darrius were to take it over then there would be a whole new storyline to it. After all, the law thing doesn't have much staying power and will quickly become stale.
Chaosrealm: Storyline wise it is better than Orderrealm. I know they are feuding with Seido but maybe they could ally with Outworld or something since they are both evil. The only problem is that there is only one character (Havik) and that I found it the most boring realm in Konquest.
Havik: Has the best storyline but the fact that Shao Kahn is indeed alive might hurt Havik. He should return to MK7 and I don't think Kabal's ending will be canon. Maybe he could do more chaos of course. He could help Darrius destroy Seido, ally with Shao Kahn, make a clone of Shao Kahn, maybe even resurrect Kano and piss him off with the Black Dragon, or even betray Kabal by resurrecting Mavado. Move wise he has some intresting moves and is also the only fighter to actually heal. But his combos and Morning star can be weak. He needs longer combos in Morning star and his Snake style should be stronger. I think he could shoot his projectile standing up as well. If Liu Kang can do it so should Havik.
Darrius: Is dependant on Havik otherwise he has no storyline. All he does is possibly take over Orderealm and that is all. But I don't wan't Darrius to kill Hotaru off as well. He is a very strong fighter with stong moves and combos. His fighting styles suit him very well, especially Leopard because he is a shfty, and sneaky person. I don't think he really needs improvement in moves. He has a lot of damaging moves already. Unfortunately I have a gut feeling that Darrius might be a one game character only. If he does make it to MK7 though he can be at Havik's side and destroy what's left of Seido.
Dairou: The worst of the four characters. Is not even really in the MK universe and only has links with two characters. Is totally dependent on Hotaru. So if he were to kill Hotaru then the only way to go is to find out that Darrius killed his family. This will just become yet another stupid Scorpion/Quan Chi revenge storyline. Also the fact that he is a mercenary also means that if Dairou were to live on he will just basically become a character killing machine, Kill Bill style. Dairou basically doesn't have much staying power. Move wise, Dairou is cheap, very cheap. His tombstone drop is rigged and can only be avoided by jumping it and then you become vulmerable to his next attack. His Autumn Dao is very powerful though. Basically you can't take this man seriously. How can you cause earthquakes by falling down onto your back, perform those weird moves in Autumn Dao especially the one where Dairou bends down and starts spinning, rip bones out of the opponents stomach and then stab them in their eyes and then make that fatality look hilarious, crush their body by putting pressure with only one foot, and end up looking like a present for a Hara-Kiri. He is also weird looking and ugly.
They should have put Dairou in MK: DA as his storyline for that game is way better. He was going to be a bloodthirsty assassin working for Shang Tsung. Now I know Dairou would be dead now but at least he would be a much solid character that way.
Hotaru: Isn't dependent as he has his own mission to kill Sub-Zero and Kenshi (like that is going to happen). However his law and order storyline could get stale soon. Since he is with Onaga and that Onaga dies, Hotaru will need a fresh storyline.
If he does survive for MK7 then Dairou will probably be dead. I know this is a long shot but story wise maybe those that served the now dead Dragon King get banished to the Netherealm. So when Hotaru gets banished there he could make an alliance with Noob Saibot so that he could help Noob Saibot take on Sub-Zero. Because of the Netherealm's corruption Hotaru wouldn't give a damn about law and order anymore, but hellfire and death. This is just my opinion as this should push him up and make a fresh start to him and bring him into the MK world properly.
Move wise Hotaru is a powerhouse when used properly. Kind to think about it he fights like a boss. You know how Kintaro hardly has any combos but just does a lot of damage. Well I guess Hotaru is facing that way. His combos need to be longer and he needs a better and stronger weapon. He needs more moves. I was thinking that he could shoot the lava burst straight like a projectile as well as his normal one. This would also give him a 50/50 mixup. Another move they could give him is something similar to Jade's move where she becomes immune to projectiles. I say this because he is based on an insect so he could raise his physical defence and become immune to physical attacks (instead of projectiles otherwise it'll be a rip off Jade) for two seconds. Since he is the biggest character in MK: D then he could use his size as an advantage. Maybe something like Quan Chi's teleport stomp. It'll also make a 50/50 mixup with grasshopper.
He's also the coolest looking character. And he isn't the only person without pupils. Sindel, Scorpion, Tanya and a few others don't have pupils either. Maybe it's an eternal aging thing.
So basically I want to know a little more about the two realms. Maybe even have levels for them. Obviously Havik and Darrius will try and eradicate what's left of Seido. I know it's a long shot but maybe Havik might bring the Black Dragon to Seido there as well. Maybe have one new character from Seido to defend the realm from those two. You could even have Stryker return to defend Seido since he likes law, but then again nobody likes him. I don't like Dairou so maybe have Hotaru kill him off. Hotaru could get sent to the Netherealm for his crimes for protecting the DK and make him turn really evil down there in hell.
Sorry I wrote a damn essay on it but that's my two cents.
Sub-Zero_7th •07/27/2005 04:39 AM (UTC) •
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Well, you can't always expect certain styles to be stronger or anything, because there needs to be balance.
His Morning Star is actually quite strong if you really know how to use it.
Snake is meant to be a speed style though the jabs should really have that good recovery time making it fast and safe and all. Basically, Snake should be very fast and fluid, but weak and close-ranged.
When it comes to Dairou, I like him and you're forgetting about his connection to Shujinko. Sure, Dairou simply freed him, but I think it's possible that more can happen between the two characters. I think Dairou has more possibilities than you think. I'd like to see him again and with more development to his storyline.
When it comes to Hotaru's gameplay, perhaps the short and strong combos should be his kind of gameplay style. I just don't want him to be as rigid as he was in MKD. I mean...if he's going to have Pi Gua, it needs to be really fluid since Pi Gua stresses fluidity. Although Pi Gua suits him since it's the armor wearing boxing style of Kung Fu and that Hotaru wears armor and such, I think he should have some kind of Samurai Jujutsu style and it would go well with his Naginata weapon style.
I'm kind of confused as to why Darrius' Shinto Ryu style is basically the Karate style Johnny Cage used in MKDA...
From the very bit I know about Shinto Ryu, it was one of the original fighting styles of Ninjutsu along with Shirai Ryu, Negishi Ryu, and Hakuun Ryu.
I think it's possible that there are different Nihon Bujutsu (Japanese martial arts) that use the name Shinto Ryu. Anyway, I really love the Gauntlets for Darrius.
His Morning Star is actually quite strong if you really know how to use it.
Snake is meant to be a speed style though the jabs should really have that good recovery time making it fast and safe and all. Basically, Snake should be very fast and fluid, but weak and close-ranged.
When it comes to Dairou, I like him and you're forgetting about his connection to Shujinko. Sure, Dairou simply freed him, but I think it's possible that more can happen between the two characters. I think Dairou has more possibilities than you think. I'd like to see him again and with more development to his storyline.
When it comes to Hotaru's gameplay, perhaps the short and strong combos should be his kind of gameplay style. I just don't want him to be as rigid as he was in MKD. I mean...if he's going to have Pi Gua, it needs to be really fluid since Pi Gua stresses fluidity. Although Pi Gua suits him since it's the armor wearing boxing style of Kung Fu and that Hotaru wears armor and such, I think he should have some kind of Samurai Jujutsu style and it would go well with his Naginata weapon style.
I'm kind of confused as to why Darrius' Shinto Ryu style is basically the Karate style Johnny Cage used in MKDA...
From the very bit I know about Shinto Ryu, it was one of the original fighting styles of Ninjutsu along with Shirai Ryu, Negishi Ryu, and Hakuun Ryu.
I think it's possible that there are different Nihon Bujutsu (Japanese martial arts) that use the name Shinto Ryu. Anyway, I really love the Gauntlets for Darrius.
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