QFT, long time coming

I was talking about before he tried to reform in the new game. But he still could've waited until after they resurrected the revenants and Shinnok might not have even come back. Then he could've beheaded Quan Chi.

Just because some of us like a character YOU do not? Yeah good logic there.

It's obviously Bi-Han just posting negative things about his brother.

He should be busy trying to take over the netherrealm

But seriously though i feel like the pro Bi han as SZ crowd, just like him because he is a " bad Guy" I love Bi Han as Noob, his character development as Noob has been great. It transitioned well from him being SZ to Kuai Liang becoming SZ, and Bi Han returning as Noob, and trying to take over the NR. Bi Han's story as SZ ended in 93, it's illogical to still in 2015 assume he will be Sub-Zero, MKX firmly establishes Kuai Liang IS Sub-Zero.

Same, I like Bi-Han for being a piece of trash. As Noob he's just as awesome in different ways. It makes him contrast with his brother in a cool way.

Agreed, i like that they are so different.

Still don't get why people say Bi-Han (As Sub-Zero) was such a dick, I played all games including MKMSZ and I still don't see what makes him more of an ass then any of the other neutral or evil characters lol.

Raiden showed him a better path lied ahead, and that he could avoid his fate of the Netherrealm if he bettered himself as a person. He had time to think it over, but accepted his next assignment to assassinate Shang Tsung.

Also, the fact that as Noob Saibot he immediately began enacting plans behind Quan Chi's back made be believe that he wasn't fully under his control, and instead Noob Saibot wasn't just a corruption of Bi-Han's soul, but Bi-Han taking things to the next level of what negative traits he already had.

Yeah I know all of that, but I don't get why that makes him more of a dick than anybody else lol accepting to assassinate Tsung doesn't really seem like a bad thing as dude was bad, and his decision to not better himself wasn't really putting others in harms way as far as I am aware.

It's the fact that Raiden showed him he could be a better person and threw it away for more dumb clan loyalty and a chance for quick money through murder. Doesn't matter if Tsung was bad or not. He was doing it for money.

I like Bi Han as Noob Saibot.
I like Kuai Liang as Sub Zero.

And Quan Chi had this shit coming since 2002.

QFT

Actually, it was because Bi-Han was a ruthless assassin showing no mercy. Let's not forget that Bi-Han killed Scorpion in cold blood on their mission to retrieve the map of the elements, where as Kuai-Liang spared even Reptile during the second tournament.

Their attitudes lead me to believe that they were like that elsewhere too.

That's one of the things admired about Kuai Liang, and MKX shows this as well. Kuai is very RATIONAL, and thinks things through. Clearly he is capable of killing someone ( killing Sektor, and other Lin Kuei Cyborgs chasing him).

As he said to Scorpion about Frost, "She doesn't know the value of peace"

That's the reason i always liked Kuai he is a good person, and he has tried to escape the cliche of a cold hearted assassin that his brother for the most part was. Kuai became a wise leader, and a dependable ally for earthrealm.

As Mkwhopper said

Kuai = Sub-Zero
Bi han = Noob

Mkx firmly establishes Kuai as Sub-Zero, and im glad for that. Tho i hope we see Noob, in future games, and i hope Kuai tries to save his brothers soul again.

I was hoping Noob would be purged and restored to Sub-Zero since Scorpion survived the Soulnado in the previous timeline. If Noob does come back, I wonder if he would side with Shang Tsung provided the latter is free from Sindel.

Does it really matter what he was doing it for though? Isn't killing innocent people (I am not talking about Tsung here btw) wrong regardless of ones reason(s)?

Anyway in short I get what you're saying, I just see people call Bi-Han a dick or an asshole more than any other character and never understood what made him so much worse than others lol

Yes, killing people is wrong. That was the point I was making. It doesn't matter that Tsung is an asshole, murder is still wrong. The difference is someone like Liu Kang would only kill Tsung if he had to out of self defense or to protect other people, making it justified.

Bi-Han was just merciless and one of the more assholish characters you could actually play as. He gets that more often because as Noob Saibot he had the power to create wraith armies and enact schemes that had large effects across the Netherrealm. He was also apparently willing to kill family as Noob Saibot.

Yeah I know , my point was mainly I don't see why he seems to be considered MK's resident ass hole when there are people like Quan Chi out here who imo are far worse lol

Idk if stupid but Scorpion has always been a selfish asshole, this isn't surprising.

I think people are more comparing him to Kuai Liang when they say that, rather than calling him the top dog of assholes in the MK series.

Looking at the scene with Sonya again


Or bring them into the room and fry the pool

Because