I feel that Raiden will die at some point within the 25 years, then rises at the end of story-mode.

Raiden has always been crazy and irresponsible, and he knows it. In MK4, the very first thing he said was "...I was responsible for the death of an entire civilization...".
Then came Armageddon. And then... his idiocy in MK9. Maybe he IS the son of Shinnock after all.

Someone must stop this genocidal wacko!

He hasn't won "cleanly" I use this word loosely, since MK1 of the old timeline. I can see why Scorpion fears him because over the 25 years he probably brought more pain and distraught with him, as seen in the comics.

Maybe Raiden should go evil. That way, he'll fail at being evil, and accidently make the world a better place.

But anyway, I'm glad Raiden's mistakes in the last game are not being swept under the rug. I'm not particularly invested in his character, so to me it doesn't matter if his character gets redeemed or not, though I admit I find his incompetence amusing. He might be taking Scorpion's place as the biggest idiot in the MK universe.

Might be? Scorpion is an idiot but at least he is competent in what he does, and that is killing.

Raiden is like the Lone Ranger from the 2013 movie. Fires off a warning shot and ends up killing 3 men with a railway tie. The guys is the fucking definition of the word moron. To sum up Raiden and I just always love inserting this into anything abotu Raiden "My name is Raiden god of useless. Why am I even alive?"

I still don't see it as a failure. Yes, almost everyone died, but they would have died anyway had Armageddon happened.

It seems the survivors don't trust him as they obviously don't believe his story of the events of the original timeline, and think he is just insane. I don't think that makes him insane or reckless, he is basically just a martyr.

He sacrificed his credibility to save earthrealm.

Armageddon is still happening though... nothing has stopped Blaze, Taven, or Daegon's quest yet. MKX may be doing it, but Raiden didn't do jack to prevent it in MK9.

Yeah Kahn may be out, there is still every other villain they have to worry about. And from the looks of things so far in MKX... Raiden hasn't done the best of jobs of protecting Earthrealm.

Call me crazy but he hasn't made, I repeat, HASN'T made any mistake.

Raiden saved the universe from total destruction when he decided to sacrifice most of the saurians on Earth to stop Shinnok, who was an Elder God in possession of the most powerful artifact that ever existed, the Amulet.

Without him, there wouldn't have been a Liu Kang to defeat Shao Kahn, as he personally created the secret Order of Light and watched over the Wu Shi Academy.

He had to die just because Kitana and Kung Lao screwed up and got their asses kicked by Shang Tsung and Quan Chi. He personally stepped foot in Outworld, where his powers were weak, to save the puny mortals of Earthrealm and paid with his life when not even the alliance between him and the 2 sorcerers could stop Onaga.

He came back darker and determined to end all threats once and for all. But when you face an alliance of Onaga, Shao Kahn, Quan Chi, Shang Tsung, Shinnok and Daegon, you are forced to NEGOCIATE, therefore he struck a deal to stop Taven if they spared Earthrealm. For all we know, these type contract may well follow rules set by the Elder Gods, with the villains renouncing their claim through Mortal Kombat, therefore making an invasion impossible.

It was because of the Elder Gods' lack of communication that Raiden didn't know about their plan to stop Armageddon. With Shao Kahn becoming all powerful, he did the only possible thing left. Used his own Amulet to do what hadn't been done before, rewrite time itself.

So, you're blaming him because he misinterpreted the visions and didn't understand the words "He must win"? Have you ever received a vision from a possible future? Is it that easy to interpret? He didn't say "Kahn must win" cause he was looking right at him when he said it, but his past self just couldn't admit that the person future Raiden was talking about was Kahn. If I were him, I wouldn't have believed my ears either. The Emperor he's been protecting the world from for millennia must win? He had to go through things to understand. Just like neither Liu Kang could understand when Raiden told him to let Shao Kahn claim Earthrealm.

Guess what, I've had a dream that felt very real last night and I'm sure that my subconscious is trying to tell me something, but call me crazy if I understood it.

So Scorpion can go eat a dick, Raiden warned him of the dangers keeping the dagger brought and he agreed to it. I think he's still pissed that Raiden promised to talk to the Elder Gods to bring back his family and clan. But Scorpion didn't keep his promise and he killed Sub-Zero. And Raiden specifically said "I will request the Elder Gods..." not "I will revive your family". Maybe the Elder Gods told him to f*** off, being the dicks they've always been

Yeah the only thing about Armageddon he prevented was the victor. So what now? Is he just hoping whoever kills Blaze has better intentions with their power than Kahn did?

You know I almost get the feeling they were trying to retcon the story of Armageddon with MK 2011. But we'll find out...I guess.

Hoorah!! Somebody can into logic and understanding!!


What a bunch of bulldung.

This.
Raiden did everything he could with the knowledge that he had. When he finally did get it right, Liu Kang didn't want to hear anything else Raiden had to say because of the great losses at that point. Liu Kang got himself killed, and Raiden turned out to be right in the end.

The knowledge of the future, especially a bad one has to be one of the biggest burdens anyone can carry. Whether Sub-Zero possessed the knowledge, Kung Lao, Sonya, Johnny Cage or even the chosen one Liu Kang himself, I don't feel that anyone would have known what to do with that.

As the saying goes, "One often meets thier fate on the road they take to avoid it." With this, would it have been wiser for Raiden to just let it all happen? Or would he still be called crazy??

The whole "Raiden is a idiot who gave more troubles and harm than good to Earthrealm" is old and abused, and it seems that once someone has an idea about the Mk lore, a huge part of MKO community jumps the wagon.

The point of Raiden's amulet introduced in mk9 was to show how far/nigh Armageddon was. The more it cracked, the closer to happen Armageddon would be. At the end of story mode the Amulet Is immaculate, not even the slightest scratch on its surface. That's the proof that Armageddon was avoided, even though other powerful menaces like quando chi, shinnok, blaze, daegon, etc were still alive.

Now... About the death of the heroes by the hands of Sindel, Raiden is supposed to be the"bridge" between humans and elder gods. So the was forced to leave the chosen warriors alone. Liu Kang was the Champion of Mk and earthrealm "poster boy", so the both of them were needed to represent mankind to the gods.


The only responsables for the heroes' death are the elder gods. They chose to not interfere in order to avoid to awake the one being again. As we know the OB come back to life in Mk deception regardless of the non-interference oath.

The elder gods are the true idiots, Raiden Just tried to put a patch over their mistakes , he berated the lives and souls of ten warriors ready to die with lives and souls of seven billion people.

It was desperation, not idiocy.

People also tend to forget that Armageddon wasn't solely triggered by the awakening of Taven. Part of the reason why Blaze was created was Delia's prediction that the various warriors of the realms would become too powerful and the continuous conflict would ultimately become too destructive.

The deaths of a number of significant characters in MK2011, along with their consequences on the storyline, staved off the boiling point of Armageddon. I doubt it would be permanent, but Shao Kahn (as the "winner" of Blaze's power) being really dead in this timeline should be kind of a major blow to the power balance that led to Armageddon for sure.

Raiden is by far not an idiot, and all the reasons why he isn't have already mentioned as above.

I personally love it Raiden will not be the one leadingthe good guys. His role is gonna be different then it is most of the times. so good that they don't dismiss everything which has happened in MK9.

Finally!! Someone who isn't on the anti-Raiden bandwagon!!

Offtopic question

Many people say that Kitana and Kung Lao fought QC and Shang b4 Raiden did in MKDA's finale, but I don't recall reading that in the game's storyline. Where is this battle shown/told?

I believe that's taken from Kung Lao and Kitana's Konquest stories in MKDA, which mentions them fighting Shang Tsung and Quan Chi, respectively.

Oh, now that makes more sense. Thanks for the answer!

No prob

If some dead warriors are suddenly back, then maybe that means Raiden's decisions will be portrayed differently in MKX and MK9 might be no longer canon, at least not entirely.

Also, boo-hoo! Raiden was too busy trying to save earthrealm to protect my favourite character which got him/her killed, he's so stoopid and evul!1!!

Hurr-durr, but nobody really dies on mah MK! so it doesnt matter.

Well, you can say the same exact thing to Shao Kahn and Scorpion.

Tell it to the CANON.