Extra files for characters not on the roster is probably something that's been happening since Deadly Alliance. I wouldn't doubt they're on there, but that doesn't mean they might be DLC.

Though in this day and age, it's more likely. Here's to hoping.
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04/11/2015 06:43 PM (UTC)
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So what the fuck is data-mining? I wouldn't go as far to say they're dreaded unlockables but can anyone else confirm this? The claims are saying it came from NeoGAF and I know absolutely zilch about that site.


Well to answer your question, data mining is basically hacking the game, but it's not doing anything specifically within the game (like cheat). It's to look at the game's under lying data or code, for things that might or might not be in the game. Hence the term "data mining"

During a game's development, certain things might be taken out or removed. Rather than throw off a working build of the game by removing the code entirely and then having to retest that new code that there are no bugs or glitches (which can take valuable resources and time to do), the developers might just section the code off, so that it isn't referenced or called. It's basically a lot easier than straight up deleting the code from the game's files. It's a lot less time consuming and players can't access it in the game under normal circumstances, but the coding and references are still there.

It's very well could be that these characters are secret unlockable characters, or it could be that at some point during the game's development they where planed to be, but things changed and they were removed.
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04/11/2015 07:06 PM (UTC)
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Kabal20 Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:

So what the fuck is data-mining? I wouldn't go as far to say they're dreaded unlockables but can anyone else confirm this? The claims are saying it came from NeoGAF and I know absolutely zilch about that site.


Well to answer your question, data mining is basically hacking the game, but it's not doing anything specifically within the game (like cheat). It's to look at the game's under lying data or code, for things that might or might not be in the game. Hence the term "data mining"

During a game's development, certain things might be taken out or removed. Rather than throw off a working build of the game by removing the code entirely and then having to retest that new code that there are no bugs or glitches (which can take valuable resources and time to do), the developers might just section the code off, so that it isn't referenced or called. It's basically a lot easier than straight up deleting the code from the game's files. It's a lot less time consuming and players can't access it in the game under normal circumstances, but the coding and references are still there.

It's very well could be that these characters are secret unlockable characters, or it could be that at some point during the game's development they where planed to be, but things changed and they were removed.
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Thanks for the explanation, man.

I found one thread on NeoGAF but it's about the launch trailer and it's mostly filled with people bickering about whether the netcode is shit or not so I'm gonna try and keep looking. I'm hoping this turns out true.
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04/11/2015 07:25 PM (UTC)
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Do you really trust that it download is real?


I'm pretty sure all the versions have leaked at this point. And the "source" of this info, if it turns out to be true, leaked the Fujin soundbite from MK9 so it's credible. This person has data-mined an MK game before. It's also completely possible partial info for them was put into the game as they started work on them for DLC, if that is indeed what they are.


No. The PC version are not out.
The game has leaked only for PS4 and X1. Data mining is not possible in next gen consoles.
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04/11/2015 07:28 PM (UTC)
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are you sure it's leaked on X1? all the streams i've seen are for the PS4 version,same thing goes for footage/pics.
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04/11/2015 07:33 PM (UTC)
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futuretime23 Wrote:
are you sure it's leaked on X1? all the streams i've seen are for the PS4 version,same thing goes for footage/pics.



I think this guy already has his X1 copy.
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04/12/2015 12:12 AM (UTC)
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Hope this shit is true beyond some speculation,discussing if the netcode is bad or not is really more important than a bunch of fn boneheads discussing if Tanya is black or white.
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04/12/2015 12:17 AM (UTC)
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DivahMah Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
DivahMah Wrote:


Do you really trust that it download is real?


I'm pretty sure all the versions have leaked at this point. And the "source" of this info, if it turns out to be true, leaked the Fujin soundbite from MK9 so it's credible. This person has data-mined an MK game before. It's also completely possible partial info for them was put into the game as they started work on them for DLC, if that is indeed what they are.


No. The PC version are not out.
The game has leaked only for PS4 and X1.
Data mining is not possible in next gen consoles.


pretty sure data miners could find a way
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04/12/2015 03:26 AM (UTC)
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Just gonna bump this to add more fuel to the fire (again, no legit source yet)

Files were found with Fujins name on Erron Blacks bullet.
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Just gonna bump this to add more fuel to the fire (again, no legit source yet)

Files were found with Fujins name on Erron Blacks bullet.


I remember people joking names would show up on Bullet textures just to troll fans.
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04/13/2015 12:21 AM (UTC)
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any other name? can you ask the guy to post a picture of the texture?
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04/13/2015 12:35 AM (UTC)
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TigerStyle Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
Just gonna bump this to add more fuel to the fire (again, no legit source yet)

Files were found with Fujins name on Erron Blacks bullet.


I remember people joking names would show up on Bullet textures just to troll fans.


I'm sorry, but you can't deny that Fujin's name on Erron's bullet is a pretty fucking BIG sign to him being playable at some point.
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04/13/2015 01:26 AM (UTC)
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As I said in another thread, haven't seen much, to avoid spoilers, but from what I have seen there is more involvement from Rain, Fujin & Tanya in story mode than half of the playable roster of the game! And in the case of Rain, that includes even the damn trailer.

Yet Tanya we have to pay for and Rain and Fujin are just there to taunt us. It's either a cruel kombat style joke or they wanna see how much we will be willing to pay for them.

For those not in the know and just casual fans, the trailer alone would make one think Rain is a definite playable character. And anyone who saw the leak of the first 25min of story mode all over youtube would think Fujin would be an automatic playable.

I am still excited for the game, but I am not surprised by the way this game is being handled that my local Gamestop/EB has said they are surprised by how little pre-orders they have had for what they expected to be a very popular game.
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04/13/2015 01:42 AM (UTC)
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As I said in another thread, haven't seen much, to avoid spoilers, but from what I have seen there is more involvement from Rain, Fujin & Tanya in story mode than half of the playable roster of the game!
There isn't.
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04/13/2015 02:33 AM (UTC)
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In this stream on Twitch

http://www.twitch.tv/consoledomination

Someone in the comments claims that the following all have there names on Erron Blacks bullets in the game files

Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
Fujin, Frost, Baraka, Rieko, Smoke, Sindel, Meat, Rain and





wait for it




keep waiting its worth it








Shao Mother Fuckin Kahn!!!!!



It may be NRS planning for anything or just a guy trolling
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04/13/2015 02:38 AM (UTC)
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BADASS6669 Wrote:
In this stream on Twitch

http://www.twitch.tv/consoledomination

Someone in the comments claims that the following all have there names on Erron Blacks bullets in the game files

Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
Fujin, Frost, Baraka, Rieko, Smoke, Sindel, Meat, Rain and





wait for it




keep waiting its worth it








Shao Mother Fuckin Kahn!!!!!



It may be NRS planning for anything or just a guy trolling


I think it's a combination, if true, of future DLC and bullshit trolling. Now to figure out which is future DLC and which is the bullshit trolling.
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04/13/2015 02:39 AM (UTC)
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BADASS6669 Wrote:
In this stream on Twitch

http://www.twitch.tv/consoledomination

Someone in the comments claims that the following all have there names on Erron Blacks bullets in the game files

Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
Fujin, Frost, Baraka, Rieko, Smoke, Sindel, Meat, Rain and





wait for it




keep waiting its worth it








Shao Mother Fuckin Kahn!!!!!



It may be NRS planning for anything or just a guy trolling


think the shao kahn thing gives it away that its fake
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04/13/2015 02:49 AM (UTC)
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I can't see Shao Kahn be anything but a tower fight.

Maybe at one point the roster was larger, though?
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04/13/2015 02:56 AM (UTC)
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I really feel like some/all of the NPC's will show up as surprise fights in living towers and special events.

I'm not even talking about the hidden fight the achievement refers to, I'm talking about the towers that rotate daily/weekly.

NRS have hinted heavily that surprises/holidays/special events will be coming in those, and I believe they even confirmed at some point in the past we may see cameos from characters not necessarily on the roster.

We already know there are very basic fightable versions of Baraka, Sindel, Tanya and Rain on the disc. It's entirely possible, if not likely, that the other NPCs could have basic fightable versions hidden in there and if they DO... and someone were to fight against them with Erron Black, then yes, he'd need bullets with their names on them.

So while I could totally believe these bullets exist, I don't believe it confirms any of them as playable at all.

But they could be fightable.
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04/13/2015 02:57 AM (UTC)
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I think Ed confirmed on Twitter that is not his profile.
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04/13/2015 02:57 AM (UTC)
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I can't see Shao Kahn be anything but a tower fight.

Maybe at one point the roster was larger, though?


Well Erron's xray having their name would only mean u can fight them, doesnt mean they have to be playable.

i do think the roster was originally going to be bigger though, but if so it would be weird that the people who would of been in the game arn't the first dlc people(maybe tanya was)
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04/13/2015 02:59 AM (UTC)
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Gillbob316 Wrote:
I really feel like some/all of the NPC's will show up as surprise fights in living towers and special events.

I'm not even talking about the hidden fight the achievement refers to, I'm talking about the towers that rotate daily/weekly.

NRS have hinted heavily that surprises/holidays/special events will be coming in those, and I believe they even confirmed at some point in the past we may see cameos from characters not necessarily on the roster.

We already know there are very basic fightable versions of Baraka, Sindel, Tanya and Rain on the disc. It's entirely possible, if not likely, that the other NPCs could have basic fightable versions hidden in there and if they DO... and someone were to fight against them with Erron Black, then yes, he'd need bullets with their names on them.

So while I could totally believe these bullets exist, I don't believe it confirms any of them as playable at all.

But they could be fightable.


I agree with this. I think, if this is true, the 3 names not from MK9 would be DLC. NRS wouldn't create those as fightable characters just for inclusion in the tower, I don't think. The others...well, I think that's all they'd be, just hidden in the game or tower as adversaries you can fight.
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futuretime23
04/13/2015 03:52 AM (UTC)
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Shao Kahn was deconfirmed months ago by Urbano. The guy is trolling. damn it.
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04/13/2015 03:56 AM (UTC)
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futuretime23 Wrote:
Shao Kahn was deconfirmed months ago by Urbano. The guy is trolling. damn it.


Not necessarily. Remember the names in the clouds in Deception? These COULD all theoretically be in the game. Not all of the names could be fightable or even DLC, they could just be troll tactics on NRS's part.
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04/13/2015 04:24 AM (UTC)
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Yeah,I suppose there's that possibility as well. But I seriously doubt Kahn is in the game. Urbano was fairly honest about him being deconfirmed(said interview also hinted at Shinnok being in the game)
there were names in the clouds in Deception? I never noticed that,lol. I remember on the left side of the screen,sometimes the letters would change,that's about it.
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