Order and Chaos
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posted07/25/2014 11:04 PM (UTC)by
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OnagaDragonKing
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Does anyone think there gonna play a role ??

I have no idea but i would like to see them return

does anyone want to see ? Havik , Hotaru , Dairou or Darrius return ??

Hotaru was my favorite in Deception he is too cool , Havik should also return .

Dairou and Darrius can make a cameo if anything not worth being playable if you ask me

I actually want order chaos thing back in the story

Does anyone else ?
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Dellombie
07/25/2014 04:43 AM (UTC)
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Dairou and Darrius are among the most hated MK characters ever.. and deserve it!

however.. I could see Hotaru and specially Havik coming back..
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Odemuitascastas
07/25/2014 04:44 AM (UTC)
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Havik and Hotaru - Yes. Dairou and Darrius - Not.
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DVorah
07/25/2014 07:09 AM (UTC)
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One Havik with ice please! The others can waste away, don't really care.

I hope Seido doesn't have much in X, don't like order, I hope chaos has more roles.
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OnagaDragonKing
07/25/2014 07:27 AM (UTC)
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I think it would suck to have one without the other

Havik and Hotaru are like scorpion and subzero

they are rivals there complete opposites there both awesome

also seido and chaosrealm looked soo cool maybe some stages ?
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DVorah
07/25/2014 08:27 AM (UTC)
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OnagaDragonKing Wrote:
I think it would suck to have one without the other

Havik and Hotaru are like scorpion and subzero

they are rivals there complete opposites there both awesome

also seido and chaosrealm looked soo cool maybe some stages ?


Don't really think so, Order needs chaos, but chaos doesn't really need order.

Like Noob's ending proved, Havik can live nicely without Hotaru.
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07/25/2014 09:11 AM (UTC)
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Darrius should have been left to be qa Red Dragon member, as originally intended. I kinda like Dairou, he has the most in common with the original Warrior / Tournament / Asia concept that Mk had.

There is also one thing I do not really like about Havik - - > for some fucking reason they seem to be under the idea that chaos is this dark, grotesque thing that is the equivalent of evil. or at least looks like it.

I love how havik bends and twists, make no mistake. They also need to do something about Seido, if ever: being generic stuck-up authoritarian assholes doesn't really present order, just blindness.



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Zero_Jade
07/25/2014 10:02 AM (UTC)
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I'd love to see Havik return, but I'm not too bothered about the rest of them if I'm honest.
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Jaded-Raven
07/25/2014 10:27 AM (UTC)
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I'd like for Hotaru to return to represent the Orderrealm, and Havik to return to represent the Chaosrealm.

I never liked Dairou or Darrius, though Darrius' gauntlet blades looked neat, but Dairou was a generic kung-fu guy with some really bad moves, and Darrius looked like a bad sci-fi design with unoriginal moves.

Hotaru and Havik would be enough to please me. ^^
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Toxik
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07/25/2014 11:55 AM (UTC)
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From this group only Hotaru and Havik deserve to return.
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07/25/2014 01:32 PM (UTC)
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Havik and Hotaru is a must. They would look amazing in the new game.
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squirt007nc
07/25/2014 03:09 PM (UTC)
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Yes to havik and Hotaru. They complement each other and Hotaru seems like he could fit in this game.
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07/25/2014 08:30 PM (UTC)
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I hated all of the MK6-newbs except Havik. So I say Yes to him and NO to the others, including Hotaru.

Im actually hoping that the story of this new timeline has Shinnok take over Seido. Giving those guys a cameo, but then they're defeated so no need to be in the VS mode.

I also think it would be neat if Havik dethrones KochaL as the God of Chaos. Maybe Shinnok could help him accomplish this if Havik helped him conquer Seido.
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07/25/2014 08:38 PM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
There is also one thing I do not really like about Havik - - > for some fucking reason they seem to be under the idea that chaos is this dark, grotesque thing that is the equivalent of evil. or at least looks like it.

If you're going by visual aesthetics, then I guess I agree. I don't think chaos clerics need to look like zombies. I have theories as to why that is, but the game doesn't do much for explaining it.

If you're trying to say that Chaos isn't necessarily equivalent to being evil, I gotta disagree. You need rules for morality, or at the very least, you need moral ends. Havik's ends are mostly arbitrary. If you apply Havik's philosophy universally, it's going to lead to horrible things. He went as far as to praise Kabal for betraying him, and if your system of ethics allows for betrayal without qualification, then there's something bent.

The Order nazi's are evil because they preclude freedom; the Chaos clerics are evil because they preclude morality. They're both really bad, IMO.

And remember, we're never told why Havik promotes chaos. To have a reason for doing it would be itself anti-chaos. I don't think Havik is necessarily evil, but he's crazy, and that's almost as bad. Unless he's creating chaos as a way of thwarting the One Being, but that still wouldn't make him neutral, that'd make him good... kinda.
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rockyrockz95
07/25/2014 08:57 PM (UTC)
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I would love for Havik to return, but Hotaru not so much. I wouldn't mind a different character for Order though. I really didn't like Hotaru's move set.
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ShujinkoX
07/25/2014 10:26 PM (UTC)
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Havik, yes for sure. Hotaru could be a possibility or a new Seido character.
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07/25/2014 10:29 PM (UTC)
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I definitely want an inclusion of Orderrealm and Chaosrealm. I was all about the concept of those realms in MKD. My main thing though is that the majority of the characters from these realms were so awful, it almost ruined it. Like most have said, Havik and Hotaru are the only redeemable ones.

At this point I'd like to think NRS is on the same page as us with that and will implement at least 2-3 worthy characters from these realms in MKX. It wouldn't even dent the series to lose Darrius and Dairou (not to mention characters like Meat and Mokap). Let them perish and let portions of their concepts (except Mokap) feed into some new, dynamic characters.
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07/25/2014 10:47 PM (UTC)
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I'd welcome back Hotaru and Havik for sure. Darrius and Dairou should at least be cameos, though I'd also welcome back Dairou. I liked his design and the fact that he was a former Seidan guardsmen, but highly doubt he'd ever get a second chance.
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07/25/2014 11:04 PM (UTC)
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fijikungfu Wrote:
I liked the fact that he was a former Seidan guardsmen, but highly doubt he'd ever get a second chance.


Yeah, I really liked the roles they wrote for the characters. The former Seidan guardsman and the resistance leader were great parts. IMO they just got the characters themselves all wrong.

Also, oddly enough, playing Deception I remember feeling a greater presence of chaos in Orderrealm than actual Chaosrealm.
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