Old character concepts and nuances that may give clues to new characters.
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posted07/04/2014 07:13 PM (UTC)by
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So I was browsing through concept art for previous MK games and noticed there's quite a few things that wound up on the cutting room floor that seemed like character concepts worth exploring, and many things introduced in lore that have never been further explored. Wanted to make a thread so people can get a look at would-be MK characters that may actually give clues as to what sort of folks might be introduced in MKX.

Tiamat

A burly reptilian humanoid that was conceptual during Deadly Alliance. I wanted to bring Tiamat up first because his concept seems to have some hints towards being in MKX. As some of you may recall from this thread, supposedly a reptilian character is being developed for the game that may or may not be Reptile himself. If Reptile is not in the game, or perhaps is back to his human guise, it may be possible that Tiamat or a similar likeness will be represented in some form.

Baphomet

Another Deadly Alliance junker that is a goat-headed demon. There is currently no character like Baphomet in MK and with Drahmin being thrown onto the "do not reuse" pile (along with possibly Moloch), another Oni representation may take their place.

Hachiman

Hachiman is another Deadly Alliance reject that has not had his assets reused elsewhere. He is a kendo practitioner but little was developed beyond his appearance.

Zebron

By now most people know about Zebron. He was originally sketched out as a joke, but he was apparently considered to be implemented as a joke character at one point briefly.

Original Blaze

The original concept for Blaze gave us a fire-man who was a lot more... detailed than the original version from Deadly Alliance and wields dual hatchets.

Original Kintaro

The original concept for Kintaro was as a karate tiger-man. While Kintaro is indeed a tiger-themed Shokan, a tiger humanoid is a different beast (literally) altogether.

Tengu ninja

The Tengu clan of ninja and its leader, Wu Lae, were introduced during the Konquest mode of Armageddon. By all accounts they should still exist in the MK universe in the rebooted timeline, but it remains to be seen if they'll ever be referenced again

Unnamed Sorceress

A female combatant that uses tassels as weapons. In the second concept piece with various other drawings, her hair is spiked up and she has long, sharp fingers.

The undead general

A scrapped armored warrior concept from Deception. This is likely a concept that has already been cannibalized for its assets to be used on other characters.

Evil Sumo

The evil sumo concept is interesting because despite it being such an early concept, it has never been reused in any form for any subsequent game in the series. There is still no sumo wrestler or super heavyweight human in MK.

Unnamed male vampire

This unnamed male counterpart to Nitara got as far as having an untextured model completed of him before ultimately being scrapped. Nitara also had a concept with much smaller wings that would probably be less cumbersome if she were to be reintroduced.

Belokk

Will never appear in MK. Eurocom's creation that is forever in rights limbo.

Ruutuu

Ruutuu is an evil spirit that is portrayed as an all-black figure during the Challenge Tower in MK9. Absolutely nothing is known about this character besides that he has been haunting Nightwolf's tribe for a long time.

Oh, one more thing I found.

There is this Aztec warrior that was a concept during Deadly Alliance. Given that we have been introduced to Kotal Khan, NRS is at least looking at old concepts to reuse for new characters.
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Icebaby
06/30/2014 02:15 AM (UTC)
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I don't know why, but for some reason I feel a Torr vibe from the sumo concept. Having this big, hulky brute-like character and just spice it up a bit with the looks and BAM!

There's a few concepts that they have that I wouldn't mind seeing ever get a chance in the light, or even be added to current characters either.
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06/30/2014 04:05 AM (UTC)
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The Aztec warrior has been my most desired concept character. However, I do NOT believe this is Kotal Kahn. I remember reading somewhere that "Aztec God"/KotalKahn may have gone back as far as MK2 concepts.

this "Aztec warrior" had a description that said he had screws in his eyes and wrists and he focused his rage/pain towards his enemies....

God, I hope he's in.
Tiamat and Baphomet need to be worked on. LIKE RIGHT NOW.
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riomarz
06/30/2014 05:36 AM (UTC)
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i seriously would love if they made the un named sorceress a reality omg. i think her concept is pretty cool. and after seeing nitara again i so want her back now. reminded me of how sweet i think her costume is. grrrr
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06/30/2014 06:02 AM (UTC)
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Haha I'm actually playing MK Deadly Alliance as we speak. (My memory card lost everything, so I had to start over :( )

Anyways, I was just thinking this yesterday. Theres so many unused sketches in MK Deadly Alliance and Deception that it would be intersting to see if anything makes it in.

FUN FACTS:
- Unused costume for Quan Chi in MKDA became his Alt. In MK9
- An unused arena that had dragon heads with blood coming out of them in MKD, became the pit bottom in MK9

and while I'm unlocking stuff, I've noticed:
- There's some unused sketches Ed Boon drew back in MKDA, where you could use the wall to your advantage I.e. flip to the other side if you're cornered, flip kicks with walls, etc. that I think made it in MKX
- interactable enviroments (pick up branches trip over stuff) that were unused.
- The Bank Interior originally had a helicopter that had crashed with a dead body in it. Looks eerily similar to The Rooftop in MK9

As for arenas I'd like to see:
- The Octo-Garden that was supposed to be in MK4 but never introduced.
- The Swamplands with the lizard peeking out of it.
- The Slaughterhouse MK4 concept (not the MKD arena)

Wish I had pictures to show you all. :(
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06/30/2014 07:36 PM (UTC)
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i REALLY love the elder demon character concept!
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07/02/2014 05:06 PM (UTC)
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The male vampire needs to make its debut. If they don't include Nitara, so we can know more about the vampire realm.
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KcinTnarg
07/02/2014 05:37 PM (UTC)
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I really want to see Tiamat, Baphomet and Evil Sumo in MKX! grin
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DVorah
07/02/2014 05:43 PM (UTC)
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I really want the original Kintaro in the game!

THUNDERCATS POWERRRRRR!!!
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DVorah
07/02/2014 05:46 PM (UTC)
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Tiamat is the only character I really love to see, and maybe the sorceress, but I like Tanya for that role.

Tiamat = extremely cool name, much better than Reptile. While i'm kinda used to Reptile so that's pretty much a trick.

Named after the queen of dragons who, Tiamat could be an evolved species of Raptor, a very different character than Reptile is.
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07/02/2014 05:57 PM (UTC)
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Baphomet is an interesting concept as a demon.
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07/02/2014 06:29 PM (UTC)
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I'd like to see Tiamat and Baphomet too! Check out the Evil masters :

http://www.mksecrets.net/images/mkda/mkda-dev85.jpg

Want them too grin
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Keith
07/03/2014 03:40 AM (UTC)
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How did Kobra ever come to be with all these potential characters floating about all this time?
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07/03/2014 03:48 AM (UTC)
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If they're going to have a vampire in the game, just let it be Nitara. It'd be cool to see the design the team would give her (and I'm up for the slightly smaller wings if she doesn't use them to fly in battle).
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07/03/2014 03:50 AM (UTC)
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fijikungfu Wrote:
If they're going to have a vampire in the game, just let it be Nitara. It'd be cool to see the design the team would give her (and I'm up for the slightly smaller wings if she doesn't use them to fly in battle).


I agree.

Nitara has only been around for one game (not including Armageddon). Why just ditch her for a male counterpart just to learn more about the race? We can easily learn more about this character if a.) they continue having her in future games and b.) they develop her.

Hey, problem solved.
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07/03/2014 04:10 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
fijikungfu Wrote:
If they're going to have a vampire in the game, just let it be Nitara. It'd be cool to see the design the team would give her (and I'm up for the slightly smaller wings if she doesn't use them to fly in battle).

I agree.

Nitara has only been around for one game (not including Armageddon). Why just ditch her for a male counterpart just to learn more about the race? We can easily learn more about this character if a.) they continue having her in future games and b.) they develop her.

Hey, problem solved.

If only it was that simple. Something tells me she could become just a brain-dead, bloodthirsty vampire... in other words, the Mileena treatment.
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07/03/2014 04:12 AM (UTC)
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fijikungfu Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
fijikungfu Wrote:
If they're going to have a vampire in the game, just let it be Nitara. It'd be cool to see the design the team would give her (and I'm up for the slightly smaller wings if she doesn't use them to fly in battle).

I agree.

Nitara has only been around for one game (not including Armageddon). Why just ditch her for a male counterpart just to learn more about the race? We can easily learn more about this character if a.) they continue having her in future games and b.) they develop her.

Hey, problem solved.

If only it was that simple. Something tells me should could become just a brain-dead, bloodthirsty vampire... in other words, the Mileena treatment.


God I hope not. I really, really hope they don't.
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07/03/2014 04:35 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
fijikungfu Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
fijikungfu Wrote:
If they're going to have a vampire in the game, just let it be Nitara. It'd be cool to see the design the team would give her (and I'm up for the slightly smaller wings if she doesn't use them to fly in battle).

I agree.

Nitara has only been around for one game (not including Armageddon). Why just ditch her for a male counterpart just to learn more about the race? We can easily learn more about this character if a.) they continue having her in future games and b.) they develop her.

Hey, problem solved.

If only it was that simple. Something tells me should could become just a brain-dead, bloodthirsty vampire... in other words, the Mileena treatment.


God I hope not. I really, really hope they don't.


She was smart enough to manipulate other characters to do her bidding and also kept her promise to them and even benefited them in the end(giving Reptile the Kirehashi, sending Cyrax back to Earth). Having characters who aren't entirely good keep their promises and not backstabbing at every chance they get is somewhat rare in this series so hey, I say keep the ones who aren't completely 2 dimensional.

Plus the element of MKX is newness, Vaeternus is mostly untouched, and they could even keep her rivalry with Ashrah in the off-chance she's in(Netherrealm rising up, need more representation)
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07/03/2014 04:53 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
fijikungfu Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
fijikungfu Wrote:
If they're going to have a vampire in the game, just let it be Nitara. It'd be cool to see the design the team would give her (and I'm up for the slightly smaller wings if she doesn't use them to fly in battle).

I agree.

Nitara has only been around for one game (not including Armageddon). Why just ditch her for a male counterpart just to learn more about the race? We can easily learn more about this character if a.) they continue having her in future games and b.) they develop her.

Hey, problem solved.

If only it was that simple. Something tells me should could become just a brain-dead, bloodthirsty vampire... in other words, the Mileena treatment.

God I hope not. I really, really hope they don't.

Trust me, neither do I.

razz2d2 Wrote:
She was smart enough to manipulate other characters to do her bidding and also kept her promise to them and even benefited them in the end(giving Reptile the Kirehashi, sending Cyrax back to Earth). Having characters who aren't entirely good keep their promises and not backstabbing at every chance they get is somewhat rare in this series so hey, I say keep the ones who aren't completely 2 dimensional.

Plus the element of MKX is newness, Vaeternus is mostly untouched, and they could even keep her rivalry with Ashrah in the off-chance she's in(Netherrealm rising up, need more representation)

I hope both of them make a comeback (Nitara and Ashrah). And I know she actually was one of the more wiser characters, and she'd probably remain that way if she's ever brought back. I was just thinking of the worst possible scenario for her lol.
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07/04/2014 07:13 PM (UTC)
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Keith Wrote:
How did Kobra ever come to be with all these potential characters floating about all this time?


It's interesting, isn't it?

I've been lead to believe that it wasn't solely a dev team powwow that was the reason for a lot of the new duds. I find it hard to believe they up and go "We need more new characters so let's remove some old ones" like with MK4's development.

Currently I'm going on the theory that someone in upper management at Midway was making demands that the dev team just went along with.
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