MK Is Wasting New Characters!!!!!!
Whereas Shang Tsung is a completely decadent Richelieu type character with a touch for action and manipulation, Quan Chi is a calculating bastard of efficiency, without any moral reprecussion. Hope that clears up why are theese two the most instrumental MK villains.
Jesus where was Shinnok and Kahn from theese two? (edit: save Kahn, actually he is the cuning megalomaniac so that makes him the third arche-type. Too bad we don't have anything on Onaga, he must the absolute variant of the three. Or should be).
Jesus where was Shinnok and Kahn from theese two? (edit: save Kahn, actually he is the cuning megalomaniac so that makes him the third arche-type. Too bad we don't have anything on Onaga, he must the absolute variant of the three. Or should be).
Weskerian •12/19/2005 09:59 PM (UTC) •
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I suspect Onaga is the bad guy who thinks he's doing the right thing for everyone involved, but is actually, to everyone else at least, the single most evil creature ever to be created. Think about it, he wants to restore order to existence, it was how he got Hotaru's help, and normally its the good guys who want to restore order. Plus apparently he was being played by the One Being the whole time too.
Pretentious •12/19/2005 10:10 PM (UTC) •
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I doubt it. He's been shown as nothing more than a power mad tyrant out to bring the realms under his totalitarian rule not because he loves order but rather, it gives him the power that he craves.
Weskerian •12/19/2005 10:20 PM (UTC) •
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Midway sure loves giving its characters depth I see. [/sarcasm] I wonder why every villain has to be villainous and not misled, confused or righteous in a different manner.
Pretentious •12/20/2005 01:04 AM (UTC) •
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Well I've said it before and I'll say it again. The writers (or writer... however many they have) are hacks. They don't seem to care enough to actually spend some time working on an enjoyable plot or giving a character a bit of depth. It's a shame really because if the guy writing the plot doesn't really care, it winds up suffering as a result.
Weskerian •12/20/2005 09:17 PM (UTC) •
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Who says you have to be evil to take sadistic pleasure in punishing your enemies, though? Onaga simply saw them as the ones standing between him and his perfect world; it probably amused him greatly to turn their daughter to the side of righteousness and send her to attack them, evil as they were. Or at least, that is from the view that the Dragon King is not going about stuff because he is evil, which I think we have established is not the case. Given all the information I reckon I could easily make it look that way though.
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Who says you have to be evil to take sadistic pleasure in punishing your enemies, though? Onaga simply saw them as the ones standing between him and his perfect world; it probably amused him greatly to turn their daughter to the side of righteousness and send her to attack them, evil as they were. Or at least, that is from the view that the Dragon King is not going about stuff because he is evil, which I think we have established is not the case. Given all the information I reckon I could easily make it look that way though.
Who says you have to be evil to take sadistic pleasure in punishing your enemies, though? Onaga simply saw them as the ones standing between him and his perfect world; it probably amused him greatly to turn their daughter to the side of righteousness and send her to attack them, evil as they were. Or at least, that is from the view that the Dragon King is not going about stuff because he is evil, which I think we have established is not the case. Given all the information I reckon I could easily make it look that way though.
You have some good points, and I like your theory, it would actually be interesting to see that twist in the story (since Onaga is only a sad excuse of an evil boss, he really sucks when compared to Tsung and Kahn), but I don’t think it will happen.
GoatsAreCool •12/21/2005 04:14 PM (UTC) •
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Yes i wish they fleshed out the `old` characters rather than just making a load of new ones each time. A good turnover of characters is a good thing in a way- tekken is a bit too far the other way, bringing back "dead" ones all the time, but it seems a lot MK characters never stay around long enough for you to get to know them.
MK2 was the last game in the series to bring an interesting, solid group of newcomers. The following games have just had (at best) one or two interesting guys in a sea of stupid ones, half of which having spent most of their time going back and forth between being alive and dead, and generally not bringing very much interesting to the table, design, gameplay or story wise.
CaptainSpaldingXL •12/21/2005 06:39 PM (UTC) •
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Weskerian Wrote:
Midway sure loves giving its characters depth I see. [/sarcasm] I wonder why every villain has to be villainous and not misled, confused or righteous in a different manner.
Midway sure loves giving its characters depth I see. [/sarcasm] I wonder why every villain has to be villainous and not misled, confused or righteous in a different manner.
Yeah, thats what i kinda thought for awhile that, and im kinda doubtful they would go in that direction, if Raiden happened to be a/the boss of the next or any other MK. He'd be the first non-"villain" boss or depending on who who his enemies were.
QueenAhnka •12/22/2005 04:13 PM (UTC) •
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I always belived that Onaga might not be evil. I think all he wants is to get HIS realm outworld back and mind his own business. But Raiden,Quan chi and every one else thinks he wants to destroy the universe when he really dosen't want to. But like it or not,if Armageddon is a MKT2,then we are most certanly going to be seeing Kai,Kintaro,Jarek and the rest of the pack
Pretentious •12/22/2005 04:55 PM (UTC) •
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
I always belived that Onaga might not be evil. I think all he wants is to get HIS realm outworld back and mind his own business.
I always belived that Onaga might not be evil. I think all he wants is to get HIS realm outworld back and mind his own business.
This is despite the fact he's portrayed as nothing but a conquerer, right?
Sub-Zero_7th •12/22/2005 06:59 PM (UTC) •
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
I always belived that Onaga might not be evil. I think all he wants is to get HIS realm outworld back and mind his own business. But Raiden,Quan chi and every one else thinks he wants to destroy the universe when he really dosen't want to. But like it or not,if Armageddon is a MKT2,then we are most certanly going to be seeing Kai,Kintaro,Jarek and the rest of the pack
I always belived that Onaga might not be evil. I think all he wants is to get HIS realm outworld back and mind his own business. But Raiden,Quan chi and every one else thinks he wants to destroy the universe when he really dosen't want to. But like it or not,if Armageddon is a MKT2,then we are most certanly going to be seeing Kai,Kintaro,Jarek and the rest of the pack
You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
If Onaga wanted to just get his realm back and mind his own business, why would he want to fuse the Kamidogu to obtain ultimate power?
Who says that MK7 is going to be like another MK Trilogy? Just because Ed Boon says that there'll be plans to have a very large roster doesn't mean that it's going to have all of the characters from the past MK games.
Weskerian •12/22/2005 09:32 PM (UTC) •
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
If Onaga wanted to just get his realm back and mind his own business, why would he want to fuse the Kamidogu to obtain ultimate power?
Who says that MK7 is going to be like another MK Trilogy? Just because Ed Boon says that there'll be plans to have a very large roster doesn't mean that it's going to have all of the characters from the past MK games.
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
I always belived that Onaga might not be evil. I think all he wants is to get HIS realm outworld back and mind his own business. But Raiden,Quan chi and every one else thinks he wants to destroy the universe when he really dosen't want to. But like it or not,if Armageddon is a MKT2,then we are most certanly going to be seeing Kai,Kintaro,Jarek and the rest of the pack
I always belived that Onaga might not be evil. I think all he wants is to get HIS realm outworld back and mind his own business. But Raiden,Quan chi and every one else thinks he wants to destroy the universe when he really dosen't want to. But like it or not,if Armageddon is a MKT2,then we are most certanly going to be seeing Kai,Kintaro,Jarek and the rest of the pack
You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
If Onaga wanted to just get his realm back and mind his own business, why would he want to fuse the Kamidogu to obtain ultimate power?
Who says that MK7 is going to be like another MK Trilogy? Just because Ed Boon says that there'll be plans to have a very large roster doesn't mean that it's going to have all of the characters from the past MK games.
Remember he's driven by the One Being. He might not be in control of his own motivations, so while he DOES want his realm back and his seat of power secure, the One Being is telling him he wants to bring all of existence under his control as well, so that it can live through him. That's the way I saw it at least. Although no one said that Onaga didn't think his rule was best for everyone. That is what most REAL dictators think at least. I am sure Hitler and Stalin never thought "wow, I am really evil".
Sub-Zero_7th •12/23/2005 01:50 AM (UTC) •
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Just out of curiosity...what do you think are the chances that any of the new characters from deception will be coming back for MK7?
I think Kobra & Darrius will have no shot coming back....their character outline screams filler to me.
Just out of curiosity...what do you think are the chances that any of the new characters from deception will be coming back for MK7?
I think Kobra & Darrius will have no shot coming back....their character outline screams filler to me.
I think Havik and Ashrah have a good chance for coming back.
What makes you think Kobra and Darrius are filler characters?
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