MK Hero, whos up next?? kung lao vs subzero!!
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posted05/01/2010 04:32 PM (UTC)by
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BIG_SYKE19
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hey who would you like to be the next hero after liu kang?? kung lao the side kick or subzero earth's trusty ally.

if you want someone completey different or new, feel free to state your opinion.
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Icebaby
04/14/2010 06:53 PM (UTC)
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I don't think there should be a hero. Even if it was down to Kung Lao or Sub-Zero, I wouldn't pick either of them. There should be something completely new for the next game.
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ErmacMk5
04/14/2010 07:15 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero or Liu Kang. Kung Lao would be like doing a Tonto game. Let's keep the sidekicks to the side, shall we?
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BlueDragonClan
04/14/2010 08:47 PM (UTC)
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There shouldn't be one specific hero. I think a group is better and more believable than one guy winning it all.
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jbthrash
04/14/2010 10:09 PM (UTC)
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I think Lui Kang should be set up as the main hero, but in some deuce ex machina they should have Scorpion end up saving the day.
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04/14/2010 10:17 PM (UTC)
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Neither of the two, please.
Kung Lao doesn't want to be the hero and given how they've butchered him since MKDA, I can't see him being taken int hat direction again. They set him up for it and then had him killed, resurrected and turned into a slave for evil. That's not very hero like.
As for Sub-Zero, he's got far too much going on with the many enemies he has - Noob Saibot, Sektor, Hotaru, Frost etc. - that to take ont he hero role would be too much of a weight for him I feel. He has enough to be getting on with.
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blissted78
04/15/2010 09:25 AM (UTC)
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I'd like to see a villain do something good. Like what if Shao Kahn started regretting all of his evil deeds over the years, and used his powers to fix everything. I think that would be an interesting twist. Not nessesarily turning into a "good guy", but just having enough of all the BS and wanting to end it all...lol...I dunno...

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04/15/2010 03:29 PM (UTC)
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blissted78 Wrote:
I'd like to see a villain do something good. Like what if Shao Kahn started regretting all of his evil deeds over the years, and used his powers to fix everything. I think that would be an interesting twist. Not nessesarily turning into a "good guy", but just having enough of all the BS and wanting to end it all...lol...I dunno...



I dunno about Shao Khan "regretting" his past transgressions. I could see him in a shaky "the enemy of my enemy" type of alliance witht he side of good against a greater common foe, but that's about as much of Khan being a good guy as I could see.

I do like your idea in a sense though. I'd rather it be Shang Tsung though. I think that he would be great in the role of someone that comes back from the side of evil. Maybe he's drained of all of his power and somehow regains his lost humanity. I mean, he was born in Earthrealm, right?

I could see him as a reluctant anti-hero.

As for an actual "hero," Syke, are you referring to a "chosen one" or just a main protagonist? To me, a chosen one is a character that holds the fate of the world on their shoulders. Liu Kang was the chosen one.

But if you're talking about a main protagonist, that could just be the lead good guy, no fate of the world resting on them, they're just more of a leader of the good guys, with no spirtual binding like what Liu Kang has. To me, that leader has probably been Rayden or Sub Zero.

If it's the chosen one you're talking about, then I'd have to go with neither Sub or Kung Lao. I think that for the next MK, they should make it a little less predictable. Bring in a bunch of potential winners on both sides instead of having a character that wins EVERY time ala Liu Kang.

As for a main protagonist... I could see Sub Zero looking more like a leader in terms of the Lin Kuei. I'd also like to see Kung Lao aged a bit somehow and perhaps made in to a sort of master for a new warrior.

But I don't think that there should be one main protagonist above all others either. When you do that, you automatically relegate everyone else to side stories and support roles.

I just want a good collection of talent on both sides, where everyone has a good, REALISTIC chance at winning. I mean, honestly... Did anyone realistically think that Baraka or Reptile or Jax or Mileena etc would WIN the whole thing? I certainly didn't.
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04/15/2010 04:07 PM (UTC)
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Baraka407 Wrote:
I just want a good collection of talent on both sides, where everyone has a good, REALISTIC chance at winning. I mean, honestly... Did anyone realistically think that Baraka or Reptile or Jax or Mileena etc would WIN the whole thing? I certainly didn't.


I like that I saw this... This should happen now with the series. Everyone should have a good chance in winning. Not to where (according to the Deadly Alliance strategy guide book) Liu Kang won every tournament (Including MK Mythologies (despite I know that was a typo) But its still funny to see that).
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BIG_SYKE19
04/15/2010 04:37 PM (UTC)
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Baraka407 Wrote:
blissted78 Wrote:
I'd like to see a villain do something good. Like what if Shao Kahn started regretting all of his evil deeds over the years, and used his powers to fix everything. I think that would be an interesting twist. Not nessesarily turning into a "good guy", but just having enough of all the BS and wanting to end it all...lol...I dunno...



I dunno about Shao Khan "regretting" his past transgressions. I could see him in a shaky "the enemy of my enemy" type of alliance witht he side of good against a greater common foe, but that's about as much of Khan being a good guy as I could see.

I do like your idea in a sense though. I'd rather it be Shang Tsung though. I think that he would be great in the role of someone that comes back from the side of evil. Maybe he's drained of all of his power and somehow regains his lost humanity. I mean, he was born in Earthrealm, right?

I could see him as a reluctant anti-hero.

As for an actual "hero," Syke, are you referring to a "chosen one" or just a main protagonist? To me, a chosen one is a character that holds the fate of the world on their shoulders. Liu Kang was the chosen one.

But if you're talking about a main protagonist, that could just be the lead good guy, no fate of the world resting on them, they're just more of a leader of the good guys, with no spirtual binding like what Liu Kang has. To me, that leader has probably been Rayden or Sub Zero.

If it's the chosen one you're talking about, then I'd have to go with neither Sub or Kung Lao. I think that for the next MK, they should make it a little less predictable. Bring in a bunch of potential winners on both sides instead of having a character that wins EVERY time ala Liu Kang.

As for a main protagonist... I could see Sub Zero looking more like a leader in terms of the Lin Kuei. I'd also like to see Kung Lao aged a bit somehow and perhaps made in to a sort of master for a new warrior.

But I don't think that there should be one main protagonist above all others either. When you do that, you automatically relegate everyone else to side stories and support roles.

I just want a good collection of talent on both sides, where everyone has a good, REALISTIC chance at winning. I mean, honestly... Did anyone realistically think that Baraka or Reptile or Jax or Mileena etc would WIN the whole thing? I certainly didn't.


i was talking more about the "choosen one".i kinda like the idea of bringing in potential winners because it does get boring with just one person winning all the time. maybe have an elite group of earth protectors. but couldnt they have just did that with sonya, jax,johnny cage......etc
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You-Know-Who
04/16/2010 05:50 PM (UTC)
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I agree with the sentiment that having one main hero can detract from others. Liu Kang winning all the time got boring and predictable. I could very easily see a new character doing it, but I feel the time for Kung Lao has come and gone.

Sub-Zero is an interesting case. He is perhaps one of the most developed and progressive characters the series has ever had. He seems like the best choice to be the "greatest" threat to the new evil force threatening Earthrealm in the next Mortal Kombat. I would go with him, although I'd refrain from labelling him a "chosen one." Just a regular Joe ice ninja that has worked hard to get where he is.

I feel that every character should be the protagonist of their own story, though. Everyone should have motivation for doing something, and hopefully that breeds an environment where new classic characters are created, and supporting roles become less and less, as we get a vibe where anyone can win because they're all well built-up.
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sss133
04/18/2010 11:18 AM (UTC)
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As far as a conquest/story mode
I'd like to be able to play as both protagonists and antagonists.
where there's say 6 playable characters 3 good 3 evil
i no that peeps want it to be even but the mk team will certainly have around 5 or 6 main characters, I dunno y but playing as an evil person in one of the most violent game series ever just seems to open my eyes.
Imagine the satisfaction of playing as shang tsung and finally being able to steal liu kangs soul yourself
or being quan chi and bullshitting urself through countless allies only to backstab them and use their ideas against them
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Grizzle
04/28/2010 03:03 AM (UTC)
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No main hero, instead an ensamble cast of Good guys trying to protect their homes and fufilling their purposes in their own respective storylines and they work together to achieve their goals, the whole main "Good Guy" is a cliche bit at best. This is the 21st century we could use a more complicated and sophisticated story.
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BIG_SYKE19
04/30/2010 05:14 PM (UTC)
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Grizzle Wrote:
No main hero, instead an ensamble cast of Good guys trying to protect their homes and fufilling their purposes in their own respective storylines and they work together to achieve their goals, the whole main "Good Guy" is a cliche bit at best. This is the 21st century we could use a more complicated and sophisticated story.


i wonder if the mk team can do a " more complicated and sophisticated story"?? seems like they had a pretty hard time with the less complicated cliche one, with a chosen hero........
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Grizzle
05/01/2010 01:25 AM (UTC)
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BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
Grizzle Wrote:
No main hero, instead an ensamble cast of Good guys trying to protect their homes and fufilling their purposes in their own respective storylines and they work together to achieve their goals, the whole main "Good Guy" is a cliche bit at best. This is the 21st century we could use a more complicated and sophisticated story.


i wonder if the mk team can do a " more complicated and sophisticated story"?? seems like they had a pretty hard time with the less complicated cliche one, with a chosen hero........


That's because the guy that's designing the game is also writing for it too. If the MK Team is reading this maybe you guys should hire some writers and explain the Mythology to them. With the resources at WB I can Imagine it won't be as hard to get, seeing how games have evolved from simple polygonal movements into controlable cinematic experiences.
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LycaniLLusion
05/01/2010 07:55 AM (UTC)
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i am going on a dead limb here but i think it should be someone least expected and unreal to think of even being in such a status...i am thinking someone on the lines of Sonya or maybe Nightwolf. i think Kung Lao should take more of a starved fighter role...he seems to play second best well. he reminds me of Vegita (from DBZ) in some odd way. Sub-zero should keep doing his thing...maybe have an inner clan rivalry or something. but...yeah i don't see either one being the next hero for the franchise...if i had to choose between them though it would be Sub-Zero.
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LucaTurilli
05/01/2010 10:35 AM (UTC)
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LycaniLLusion Wrote:
i am going on a dead limb here but i think it should be someone least expected and unreal to think of even being in such a status...i am thinking someone on the lines of Sonya or maybe Nightwolf. i think Kung Lao should take more of a starved fighter role...he seems to play second best well. he reminds me of Vegita (from DBZ) in some odd way. Sub-zero should keep doing his thing...maybe have an inner clan rivalry or something. but...yeah i don't see either one being the next hero for the franchise...if i had to choose between them though it would be Sub-Zero.


Certainly not Sonya. She's been such a backseat character. Honestly, without Liu Kang, I don't much like the idea of a hero. Haters can hate. But MK had a classic story line "chosen one" thing goin' on. Now the story is so convoluted with attempts to tie in so many useless, garbage characters into a ton of poorly scripted lore.

Reboot the fuckin' franchise and give me Turkey Boy back to save the day.
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LycaniLLusion
05/01/2010 11:31 AM (UTC)
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a little bit rude and harshly worded Luca...a bit uncalled for don't you think?

in any case the "chosen one"(L. Kang) is dead. let it go dude...if there is another to be chosen than so be it but that does not mean the next chosen one is going to be as good if it were to continue on that same story line. reboot is not the answer because eventually it will again come to another dead end. i can see revitalizing the franchise with a new fresh style but keep the story intact from where it left off. honestly you could restart the cycle of the original story and still keep going from where it left off. the next MK could have or could be a tournament to find the next chosen one...within that the remaining story left from armageddon could finish its cycle in the mix. it might be a bit deeper and harder to follow though but it would be sensible imo.
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Grizzle
05/01/2010 01:55 PM (UTC)
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LycaniLLusion Wrote:
a little bit rude and harshly worded Luca...a bit uncalled for don't you think?

in any case the "chosen one"(L. Kang) is dead. let it go dude...if there is another to be chosen than so be it but that does not mean the next chosen one is going to be as good if it were to continue on that same story line. reboot is not the answer because eventually it will again come to another dead end. i can see revitalizing the franchise with a new fresh style but keep the story intact from where it left off. honestly you could restart the cycle of the original story and still keep going from where it left off. the next MK could have or could be a tournament to find the next chosen one...within that the remaining story left from armageddon could finish its cycle in the mix. it might be a bit deeper and harder to follow though but it would be sensible imo.


The term "chosen one" originated from the Shaolin Temples to find a succesor to the original Kung Lao and take back the Mortal Kombat for the Shaolin in a last ditch effort to save Earth from Shang Tsung and Goro. It was meant to be the current hat wielding Kung Lao but from the story I know of it was Liu Kang who left the White Lotus order to represent the Shaolin as a whole and entered the tournament and Kung Lao stayed with the order, what Liu Kang didn't know is that by becoming the Mortal Kombat champion it is like a mandate from heaven that he does not age as long as he is the champion.

I feel that in his death he was cheated out of this. Shao Kahn broke the sacred rules of Mortal Kombat during the events of MK3 when he defiled all the honor of the tournament and invaded Earthrealm anyway. Liu Kang despite being the champion fought and risked his life and helped win back Earthrelam on top of foiling Shinnok who threatened the very Elder Gods themselves.

After all he has done for Raiden and Elder gods, to be sneak attacked and killed in such a cowardly way you don't think that the Elder Gods in order to respect the Shaolin for all that they did to maintain balance in all the realms would respect the tournament and have the rightfully earned, and respect the defending champion who did much more that just win the tournament by defending his title the way many before him did. That would be cheap if he didn't and what's the point of the tournament anyway if that isn't going to happen?
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BIG_SYKE19
05/01/2010 04:32 PM (UTC)
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Grizzle Wrote:
LycaniLLusion Wrote:
a little bit rude and harshly worded Luca...a bit uncalled for don't you think?

in any case the "chosen one"(L. Kang) is dead. let it go dude...if there is another to be chosen than so be it but that does not mean the next chosen one is going to be as good if it were to continue on that same story line. reboot is not the answer because eventually it will again come to another dead end. i can see revitalizing the franchise with a new fresh style but keep the story intact from where it left off. honestly you could restart the cycle of the original story and still keep going from where it left off. the next MK could have or could be a tournament to find the next chosen one...within that the remaining story left from armageddon could finish its cycle in the mix. it might be a bit deeper and harder to follow though but it would be sensible imo.


The term "chosen one" originated from the Shaolin Temples to find a succesor to the original Kung Lao and take back the Mortal Kombat for the Shaolin in a last ditch effort to save Earth from Shang Tsung and Goro. It was meant to be the current hat wielding Kung Lao but from the story I know of it was Liu Kang who left the White Lotus order to represent the Shaolin as a whole and entered the tournament and Kung Lao stayed with the order, what Liu Kang didn't know is that by becoming the Mortal Kombat champion it is like a mandate from heaven that he does not age as long as he is the champion.

I feel that in his death he was cheated out of this. Shao Kahn broke the sacred rules of Mortal Kombat during the events of MK3 when he defiled all the honor of the tournament and invaded Earthrealm anyway. Liu Kang despite being the champion fought and risked his life and helped win back Earthrelam on top of foiling Shinnok who threatened the very Elder Gods themselves.

After all he has done for Raiden and Elder gods, to be sneak attacked and killed in such a cowardly way you don't think that the Elder Gods in order to respect the Shaolin for all that they did to maintain balance in all the realms would respect the tournament and have the rightfully earned, and respect the defending champion who did much more that just win the tournament by defending his title the way many before him did. That would be cheap if he didn't and what's the point of the tournament anyway if that isn't going to happen?


so do you think the elder gods should have been obligated to bring liu kang back in his human form because he was the chosen champion when shang,quan killed him. they promised him young life forever as long he was the champion, so if you cant age, that means you cant die......and liu didnt die in the tournament, he died in a unofficial surprise attack........confused
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