How about this for balance?
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posted03/09/2015 10:57 PM (UTC)by
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barakall
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White Lotus affiliates:
- Raiden
- Kung Lao
- Kung Jin
- Kenshi
- Takeda

Special Forces:
- Johhny Cage
- Sonya
- Cassie Cage
- Jax
- Jacqui

Team Kotal:
- Kotal Kahn
- Erron Black
- D'vorah
- Ferra / Torr
- Kano

Team Mileena:
- Mileena
- Goro
- Baraka
- Rain

Team Evil (scorserers, wizards, bosses, in control of souls / spirits):
- Quan Chi
- Shinnok
- Ermac
- Havik
* Liu Kang (if he's turned Fire God)

Team other (Yes, some could be with other teams, but I see both good and evil in Scorpion and Sub, add Reptile and you have the 3 original ninja's + Kitana and Liu belong together if he's still human):
- Scorpion
- Sub-Zero
- Reptile
- Kitana
* Liu Kang (if he's human)

That's 28 characters including unlockable boss (Shinnok / Havik). If you make Baraka and or Rain DLC, you can even add Reiko and Onaga (if he's boss). I want Havik in regardless.

I would love this roster personally!
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Lokheit
03/09/2015 06:07 PM (UTC)
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Kenshi has never been affiliated with the White Lotus, he isn't even a shaolin (Samurai, which is japanese instead of chinese like shaolin, would be the closest and he isn't even that really) and he's 100% confirmed to be working with the special forces.

Takeda has nothing to do with the White Lotus, he is Shirai Ryu and apparently affiliated to SF.

Kano has his own team, he deals with team Kotal but he is a businessman, I don't think he cares at all for his war, except maybe that if Kotal loses his money outcome is cut, but he would backstab them for money the second he is given a better offer.

Ermac apparently is team Kotal, not "team evil sorcerers". Reptile is team Kotal too (one of his ministers, so really involved with his cause).

What was the point of that distribution anyway? I don't get the "for balance" part confused It just looks like you decided to randomly affiliate guys to different groups that have nothing in common with them for some reason that I can't see.
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Spider804
03/09/2015 06:08 PM (UTC)
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Why is Kenshi White Lotus when he has never interacted with them once
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T-rex
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03/09/2015 06:09 PM (UTC)
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ITT people STILL don't get how factions work.
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Spider804
03/09/2015 06:11 PM (UTC)
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Besides, the only connection Kenshi has to them is being pissed off at Shang Tsung
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Lokheit
03/09/2015 06:11 PM (UTC)
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T-rex Wrote:
ITT people STILL don't get how factions work.


What gets me confused here is that his divisions doesn't even seem to be related to the factions war (no Lin Kuei or Brotherhood or Black Dragon...) so I really don't know what he's really trying to balance even if the faction wars worked like that (and we know it doesn't).
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barakall
03/09/2015 06:29 PM (UTC)
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I'm not talking about the factions, I don't even mention them. People complain about a balanced roster, so this for me would work . I don't care about being right or wrong with this, it's just my way of looking at things and it makes sense. Reptile could be under team Kotal as much as under team ninja or whatever.

With regards to White lotus, it clearly states affiliates and Kenshi has affiliations with Raiden. Just trying to make people feel better since this roster is very possible.
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Spider804
03/09/2015 06:35 PM (UTC)
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If you go by that logic though, then every hero is White Lotus tongue
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sharefrock
03/09/2015 06:37 PM (UTC)
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Spider804 Wrote:
If you go by that logic though, then every hero is White Lotus tongue


Aren't they?
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Lokheit
03/09/2015 06:42 PM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:
Spider804 Wrote:
If you go by that logic though, then every hero is White Lotus tongue


Aren't they?


Well, if OP is using that logic to say Kenshi or Takeda (both of them never even remotely related to the white lotus) are White Lotus, then we HAVE to apply the same to every single hero in the game which works against his idea of balancing the roster... and again, I still don't get what kind of balance he's looking for or what's the purpose of this xD
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03/09/2015 06:47 PM (UTC)
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barakall Wrote:
People complain about a balanced roster, so this for me would work .

...You do realize that when people are talking about "balance" in a fighting game, they are referring to actual gameplay mechanics and things like attack properties, right?
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03/09/2015 06:52 PM (UTC)
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Sorry dude, but we're getting MKSF2.

Johnny
Jax
Sonya
Kenshi
Cassie
Jacqui
Takeda
Kung Jin

Kano
Rumors say Tremor DLC

So have fun with that.

Also, Team Evil, Lulz
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barakall
03/09/2015 06:53 PM (UTC)
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It's pretty easy, Kenshi is from earth realm and not Special Forces. Here's his connections with Raiden for all you crazy fans:

'Between the main events of the series, Kenshi is contacted by Raiden and agrees to fight for Earthrealm in the Mortal Kombat Tournament.

Several years later, Kenshi is summoned by Raiden to the island hosting the Mortal Kombat tournament, with Kenshi being the last to teleport onto the island.'

Thus, his connection to Raiden.

This list is for people to feel better about the roster. If you want to nitpick fine, put Kenshi and Takeda with Special Forces, Reptile with Kotal Kahn, Kano separate and you still have a somewhat balanced roster.

Team Lotus + Special Forces however you count is 10 good. Add Kitana and have you 11

Team Mileena + Team Evil = that's 8-9 evil + Kano is possibly 10

Team Kotal = 6 neutral + Scorpion, Sub-Zero + Liu Kang (if he's become indifferrent) makes 9

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Spider804
03/09/2015 06:57 PM (UTC)
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...........Please tell me you did not just use Mortal Kombat Legacy to justify Kenshi's affiliation to Raiden......
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daryui
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03/09/2015 06:59 PM (UTC)
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We have comics and Web Series bios that state Kenshi is Special Forces.


...

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barakall
03/09/2015 07:17 PM (UTC)
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Ok, let me make this easier for you nitpickers:

GOOD: Raiden, Kenshi, Takeda, Kung Lao, Kung Jin, Sonya, Johhny, Cassie, Jacqui, Jax & Kitana

EVIL: Mileena, Kano, Goro, Baraka, Rain, Quan Chi, Shinnok, Ermac, Havik (Liu Kang)

NEUTRAL: Kotal Kahn, Dvorah, Ferra/Torr, Reptile, Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Liu Kang, Erron Black

Scorpion and Sub-Zero remain to be seen, as well as Liu Kang.

Seems pretty balanced to me, IF they add Baraka, Rain & Havik that is. Or else, it's still fucked!

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03/09/2015 07:25 PM (UTC)
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In my own opinion about the roster I really did some thinking about this.

White Lotus
1.Raiden
2.Fujin
3.Liu Kang
4.Kung Lao
5.Kitana
6.Kenshi
7.Johnny Cage
8.Li Mei
9.Bo Rai Cho






Black Dragon
1.Kano
2.Erron Black
3.D'vorah
4.Kotal Kahn
5.Ermac
6.Reptile
7.Noob-Saibot
8.Ron Tan Cho
9.Tasia






Brotherhood of Shadow
1.Quan Chi
2.Reiko
3.Shinnok
4.Mileena
5.Tanya
6.Baraka
7.Goro
8.Argus
9.Havik




Lin Kuei
1.Sub-Zero
2.Scorpion
3.Sektor
4.Cyrax
5.Tremor
6.Predator
7.Smoke
8.Sareena
9.Rain






Special Forces
1.Sonya
2.Jax
3.Takeda
4.Jacqui Briggs
5.Kung Jin
6.Ash Williams
7.Frost
8.Kabal
9.Daegon

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redman
03/09/2015 07:27 PM (UTC)
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nightbreed_16 Wrote:
In my own opinion about the roster I really did some thinking about this.


there are so many bad things about this list my god
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03/09/2015 07:30 PM (UTC)
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redman Wrote:
nightbreed_16 Wrote:
In my own opinion about the roster I really did some thinking about this.


there are so many bad things about this list my god

Yeah I know but it is just a guess speculation. I know it may not even happen.wink
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hornbuckle11
03/09/2015 07:34 PM (UTC)
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Argus in Brotherhood of the shadow???
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T-rex
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03/09/2015 07:37 PM (UTC)
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nightbreed_16 Wrote:
I know it may not even happen.wink


THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BAD ABOUT THAT LIST
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03/09/2015 07:38 PM (UTC)
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hornbuckle11 Wrote:
Argus in Brotherhood of the shadow???

Yes well in this alternate timeline anything can happen like manipulation by Quan Chi or even mind control. It was just a thought anyway. Like I said it might not happen it is just a guess.
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03/09/2015 07:52 PM (UTC)
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Another roster thread lel
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03/09/2015 07:57 PM (UTC)
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DeLaGeezy Wrote:
Another roster thread lel

Well yes and no it is mostly a speculation of the roster and factions together.
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projectzero00
03/09/2015 07:59 PM (UTC)
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nightbreed_16 Wrote:
In my own opinion about the roster I really did some thinking about this.

White Lotus
1.Raiden
2.Fujin
3.Liu Kang
4.Kung Lao
5.Kitana
6.Kenshi
7.Johnny Cage
8.Li Mei
9.Bo Rai Cho






Black Dragon
1.Kano
2.Erron Black
3.D'vorah
4.Kotal Kahn
5.Ermac
6.Reptile
7.Noob-Saibot
8.Ron Tan Cho
9.Tasia






Brotherhood of Shadow
1.Quan Chi
2.Reiko
3.Shinnok
4.Mileena
5.Tanya
6.Baraka
7.Goro
8.Argus
9.Havik




Lin Kuei
1.Sub-Zero
2.Scorpion
3.Sektor
4.Cyrax
5.Tremor
6.Predator
7.Smoke
8.Sareena
9.Rain






Special Forces
1.Sonya
2.Jax
3.Takeda
4.Jacqui Briggs
5.Kung Jin
6.Ash Williams
7.Frost
8.Kabal
9.Daegon



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