Armageddon and the Seventh Kamidogu
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posted02/15/2008 11:14 PM (UTC)by
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What fallows is a logical argument, of my construction, that outlines the importance of Shinnok's Amulet, the Seventh Kamidogu, and the integral role it plays in Armageddon.

1: Damashi, Onaga, had to deceived Shujinko three times to achieve his goal.
1a: Damashi deceived Shujinko into believing that Damashi was an emissary of the Elder Gods.
1b: Damashi deceived Shujinko into believing that Shujinko was the Elder God's Chosen Champion.
1c: Damashi deceived Shujinko into believing that Monster was not the Elder God's Chosen Champion, and then reaffirmed proposition 1b.

2: Damashi had no reason to deceive Shujinko beyond proposition 1.
2a: In fact, it only makes sense that for Shujinko to be competent enough to do Damashi's bidding in the realms; Shujinko had to understand and thus be told the truth about everything else concerning his quest, aside from the deceptions in proposition 1.

3: Because of propositions 1 and 2; I conclude that everything Damashi told Shujinko, besides what was listed in proposition 1, is true.

4: Because of proposition 3; I conclude that the Mortal Kombat Kreation Story Damashi related to Shujinko is true.

5: Lord Shinnok created his own amulet, Shinnok's Amulet, with the four elemental powers that comprise Earthrealm; Wind, Earth, Water, and Fire.

6: Shinnok created his amulet so he could use it to transcend to Earthrealm and bar his peer Elder Gods from fallowing him; thus allowing him to rage war against Earthrealm, without his peers able to directly interfere, and try to take it for his own. This is the First Raiden Shinnok War.

7: Quan Chi has also used Shinnok's Amulet to open a Soulnado; a portal to the Heavens themselves. He used this portal to supply souls to Shang Tsung; which was part of the Deadly Alliance Agreement between the two sorcerers.

8: In Defenders of the Realm, Raiden explains that Earthrealm is the interchange between the realms.

9: Earthrealm has the strongest life force.

10: The Kamidogu are physical objects that each hold a single spiritual essence.

11: Quan Chi's Armageddon Ending states that Shinnok's Amulet is a Kamidogu.

12: There is no documentation of any interealm transportation before Shinnok created his amulet.

13: Because of propositions 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12; I conclude that Shinnok's Amulet is a Kamidogu.
13a: Unlike the six Realm Kamidogu, who's essences are those of their respective Realms, Shinnok's Amulet's essence is that of interchange; inter dimensional transportation between the Realms.
13b: No interealm transportation happened before Shinnok created his amulet; and it only makes sense that the Kamidogu comprised of the same elements that comprise the Realm with the most powerful life force, that is the interchange between realms, possesses such qualities as being the Kamidogu of Interchange.

14: One Kamidogu can only posses one essence.
14a: Before the creations of the Realms, the single Kamidogu possessed the essence of the One Being.
14b: After the Kamidogu was shattered on the One Being, and broke into six different shards, the One Being's Conscience had to fallow suit because the one Kamidogu that possessed its essence became six Kamidogu.

15: The reason that Earthrealm's Kamidogu doesn't posses the powers of Shinnok's Amulet is because, as proposition 15 states, one Kamidogu can only posses one essence; and Earthrealm's Kamidogu already possessed the essence of Earthrealm.

16: Shujinko's Pre-Armageddon Bio explains how he shattered the six Realm Kamidogu, defeated Onaga, and how Nightwolf then used his shamanic powers to send the Dragon King to the Neatherealm.

17: In Armageddon's Konquest, Blaze relates to Taven that it was his duty to guard the realms until they were in danger. Then he was to send out a psychic scream that would wake the brothers and start the Armageddon Quest.

18: Blaze defines the danger mentioned in proposition 17, that was his duty to watch for, as the Kombatants taping into the forces that made Existence itself possible.

19: If the Kamidogu ever merge, the Realms would pancake down on top of each other, vacuuming up all of Existence as they recombine into the One Being; likely restarting the battle between the One Being and the Elder Gods.

20: The reason Blaze took so long to act, not until the events of MKU which mostly take place near the end of MKD, is because the realms were in no tangible danger prior to this.
20a: Blaze chose to act after the events described in proposition 16.
20b: This means that there was no tangible danger until after the events of proposition 16.
20c: Armageddon, proposition 19, can not happen unless all the Kamidogu, thus including Shinnok's Amulet, merge.
20d: In accordance with proposition 18; I conclude that Blaze himself is saying, by when he chose to act, that the Realms were in no tangible danger until after the events described in proposition 16.

21: Because of proposition 20d; I conclude that the only way to merge the essences of the Kamidogu, and thus by merging all of the Kamidogu essences triggering the event of Armageddon, is to release their essences by shattering their physical confines.
21a: The reason the Dragon King failed to achieve merging them is because he left them physically in tact.
21b: This was a safety mechanism, no one holding the keys of Existence hostage would likely think of destroying the very bargaining tools held.
21c: When Shujinko, under good intentions, tried to atone for his mistakes by destroying the Dragon King and saving the Realms; he inadvertently unleashed six of the seven keys needing to be released to destroy the Realms.

22: In conclusion, the Armageddon Konquest and Tournament were both last ditch attempts to prevent the event of Armageddon from happening.
22a: Blaze triggered both once he realized the jeopardy the realms were placed in by Shujinko releasing six of the seven Kamidogu; thus allowing those six Kamidogu to merge.
22b: Now that only one Kamidogu is left in tact, Shinnok's Amulet, the Realms are on the brink of total annihilation.

23: Interestingly enough, if MK8 relates that Quan Chi's MK Armageddon Ending Bio is true, and Quan chi is holding the one and only true Shinnok's Amulet, as opposed to one of his self-created duplicates; then the event of Armageddon would be unleashed.
23a: Look closely, not only is his Bio the first to ever call Shinnok's Amulet a Kamidogu; it also shatters it.
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01/31/2008 05:48 AM (UTC)
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Few things...

Actually, I don't think the Amulet itself was used in opening the Soulnado. This was simply something within Quan Chi's power.

The Kamidogu was the weapon the Elder Gods used to shatter the One Being. The Amulet acts as its trigger to activate it. After shattering the One Being, the Kamidogu was spilt into six pieces and hidden on six realms. Far as I know, they contain no single spritiual energy nor special connection to the realms in which they were placed. The Kamidogu, when properly fused and activated, is simply a tool of omnipotent power.

Merging the Kamidogu will not automatically fuse the realms together. The wielder of the fused & activated Kamidogu could use it to merge all the realms together...if that is what they desired.

The needed information to fuse the Kamidou was in Edenia. In Deception, Tanya's task for the Dragon King was finding and deciphering the passages that described how.

Blaze didn't go about his mission because he'd been brainwashed by the Dragon King's disciples to watch over the Last Great Dragon Egg. One the egg hatched, Blaze returned to his duty of monitoring the realms. When he saw how bad things had gotten, he gave the signal to awaken Argus' sons.

I think Quan Chi's Armageddon ending should be taken with a grain of salt. From the look of it, very few of the endings were given significant thought. Quan Chi's Armageddon ending suggests that he himself if the Amulet when it was stated in Mythologies that Shinnok created the Amulet himself.
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Juergen
02/03/2008 07:08 AM (UTC)
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Here is the Mortal Kombat Storyline.

Let me add some things. Quan Chi kept the real amulet during Mythologies. Shao Kahn did have the amulet once.

Shao KAhn in reality had the fake amulet and could not use it. When Onaga tried to fuse the Kamidogu, Onaga was actually in posession of the fake amulet becaue Quan Chi knew that the real amulet would be in danger eventually thus Quan Chi had a fake amulet around his belt. The fate of Shinnok's amulet is unknown even though it was on Shinnok's staff during Armageddon. Earth i the hub for pasage through and to other realms, thats why Earth is so valuable and everyone wants Earth. Earth in a sense is the "center" of the Universe according to the MK World.

I believe that Shinnok used everyone as a pawn so that the ending of armageddon is that Shinnok won Mortal Kombat 7 thus restoring him to his former Elder God status before he became corrupt. Raiden just played along with the force of Darkness and in reality helped Shinnok defeat Blaze.

Yeah and it's weird...if it wasn't for Noob Saibot's and Shujinko's quests then there would be no Armageddon...

I love the MK storyline, it's so in depth for a fighting game.
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Sub-Zero_7th
02/03/2008 04:50 PM (UTC)
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About Shinnok's Amulet, Quan Chi's Armageddon ending contradicts what Raiden told Shujinko in MKD's Konquest. Raiden clearly said that Shinnok's Amulet is NOT a Kamidogu, but it is connected to them in its function. Some will argue that Raiden was simply misinformed about it and that Shinnok's Amulet really is a Kamidogu. If that is truly the case, then that would piss me off due to the stupidity of the crappy retconning.

To Juergen:

The story that you linked has some grave errors in the form of fabrications.

Shao Kahn never had Shinnok's Amulet. The part about Shao Kahn obtaining the Amulet during his invasion of Earthrealm is a fabrication.

The story in that link suggests that Quan Chi had Shinnok's Amulet prior to asking Shang Tsung for help, which would be false.

Onaga obtained the real amulet. You're making an assumption about the ending of Armageddon, which can't be proven. Yes, Shinnok manipulated everyone. I hate the way phrases like "won Mortal Kombat" when it comes to MK games after MK3, because it gives the false notion that MK3-MKA is a tournament. It's not. Also, he still had his Elder God status when he became corrupt. In what way did Raiden help Shinnok defeat Blaze? That's not mentioned in Shinnok's ending anyway.
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02/04/2008 06:01 AM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:

To Juergen:

The story that you linked has some grave errors in the form of fabrications.

Shao Kahn never had Shinnok's Amulet. The part about Shao Kahn obtaining the Amulet during his invasion of Earthrealm is a fabrication.

The story in that link suggests that Quan Chi had Shinnok's Amulet prior to asking Shang Tsung for help, which would be false.

Onaga obtained the real amulet. You're making an assumption about the ending of Armageddon, which can't be proven. Yes, Shinnok manipulated everyone. I hate the way phrases like "won Mortal Kombat" when it comes to MK games after MK3, because it gives the false notion that MK3-MKA is a tournament. It's not. Also, he still had his Elder God status when he became corrupt. In what way did Raiden help Shinnok defeat Blaze? That's not mentioned in Shinnok's ending anyway.


What about Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks? Remember after they beat Shao Kahn that Quan Chi picked up the amulet!!!
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02/04/2008 06:47 AM (UTC)
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wow nice post lot of useful info thx manconfused
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02/04/2008 08:11 AM (UTC)
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Juergen Wrote:
Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:

To Juergen:

The story that you linked has some grave errors in the form of fabrications.

Shao Kahn never had Shinnok's Amulet. The part about Shao Kahn obtaining the Amulet during his invasion of Earthrealm is a fabrication.

The story in that link suggests that Quan Chi had Shinnok's Amulet prior to asking Shang Tsung for help, which would be false.

Onaga obtained the real amulet. You're making an assumption about the ending of Armageddon, which can't be proven. Yes, Shinnok manipulated everyone. I hate the way phrases like "won Mortal Kombat" when it comes to MK games after MK3, because it gives the false notion that MK3-MKA is a tournament. It's not. Also, he still had his Elder God status when he became corrupt. In what way did Raiden help Shinnok defeat Blaze? That's not mentioned in Shinnok's ending anyway.


What about Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks? Remember after they beat Shao Kahn that Quan Chi picked up the amulet!!!



Well Juregen, MKSM is like Ulimate Marvel comic. it doesn't really add anything to the primary storyline. So it is NON canon where as the primary canon for the video games are concerned.
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02/04/2008 08:47 AM (UTC)
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Nothing real substantial to add here, just wanted to give some props for a good thread. Has creative ignition and mystique looking back into the story again.

very nice.
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02/04/2008 03:47 PM (UTC)
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Juergen, you have to understand that Shaolin Monks has many grave errors in it. The ending in which Quan Chi picks up the amulet is one giant plothole that did not get a clear explanation. I think that they didn't know what they hell they were doing and thus couldn't give a real explanation. I'd rather count MKSM's story as being non-canon, otherwise, MK's story will be destroyed.
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Juergen
02/12/2008 08:39 AM (UTC)
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Actually we don't know how Quan Chi got the amulet in the first place. In MK4 and MKM it is hinted that when Quan took the amulet from Sub Zero that he produced a copy and gave the copy to Shinnok during Mythologies and hid the real amulet somewhere o that no one could find it. I guess we'll have to see in MK8 since the storyline in MK7 isn't even finished yet and probably won't be. I think MK7 was a test game for MK8...


On a side note, ha everyone seen the latest screen shots and actually Street Fighter IV arcade cabinet!!!
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Sub-Zero_7th
02/12/2008 03:38 PM (UTC)
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Juergen Wrote:
Actually we don't know how Quan Chi got the amulet in the first place. In MK4 and MKM it is hinted that when Quan took the amulet from Sub Zero that he produced a copy and gave the copy to Shinnok during Mythologies and hid the real amulet somewhere o that no one could find it. I guess we'll have to see in MK8 since the storyline in MK7 isn't even finished yet and probably won't be. I think MK7 was a test game for MK8...


On a side note, ha everyone seen the latest screen shots and actually Street Fighter IV arcade cabinet!!!


We do know how Quan Chi got the amulet in the first place. Play MK Mythologies: Sub-Zero. It clearly shows how he gets the amulet. With the copy being made, we at least know that Raiden was fooled since Sub-Zero unknowingly handed him a fake, which Raiden destroyed. I don't think that Quan Chi made another copy since making another copy for Shinnok would quickly and easily make him suspicious.

Then if you go all the way to the end of MK4, Scorpion had been chasing after Quan Chi for many years in the 5th plane of the Netherrealm. Quan Chi had the real amulet with him, and Drahmin told him that he could've gotten out at any time because of the amulet. The amulet also played a role in Onaga's army. So after Raiden used the ethereal blast, Onaga was fairly unaffected by it, and after searching the remains of Shang Tsung's Palace, he picked up Shinnok's Amulet.
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Juergen
02/15/2008 08:34 AM (UTC)
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Now the question is...who has Shinnok's amulet? Does Shinnok have the real one now or does Quan Chi?
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Sub-Zero_7th
02/15/2008 11:14 PM (UTC)
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Juergen Wrote:
Now the question is...who has Shinnok's amulet? Does Shinnok have the real one now or does Quan Chi?


It seems to me that Quan Chi somehow reacquired Shinnok's Amulet since Quan Chi's MKA ending, despite being a "what-if" style ending, indicates that he has it back. And besides, the real Shinnok is still in the Netherrealm while his doppelganger was busy doing other things.
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