Kitanas hair too long?
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posted01/15/2011 03:43 PM (UTC)by
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wdm6789
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Okay I know its been way overly discussed, but I would have thought that Kitana's hair would have been fixed by now, it does look much better in the more recent gameplay videos than it did in ther earlier ones, but its still very unnatural looking. My complaint is that if NRS can't properly design and animate Kitana's hair and make it move and flow naturally then maybe they should take off a little of its length so it will look more fluid and natural. Usually when she's jumping, her hair seems to sort of stretch out, this is where they need to take a chunk off the length. Kitana's hair should be to her lower mid back, not like to her knees. I really hope they fix her hair.
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mkreptile8860
01/11/2011 10:06 AM (UTC)
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I think it's just fine :)
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Jaded-Raven
01/11/2011 12:06 PM (UTC)
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I don't mind the length of the hair, I just wish they fixed the rubberband effect it has. It looks ridiculous and unnatural, as if her hair has a life of its own.
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Nephrite
01/11/2011 01:01 PM (UTC)
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Her hair is beautiful, but the animation needs tweaking.
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LucaTurilli
01/11/2011 01:29 PM (UTC)
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Nephrite Wrote:
Her hair is beautiful, but the animation needs tweaking.
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wdm6789
01/11/2011 02:18 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I don't mind the length of the hair, I just wish they fixed the rubberband effect it has. It looks ridiculous and unnatural, as if her hair has a life of its own.




Yeah the rubber band thing when she jumps or moves quickly drives me crazy, I really hope they put a lot more work into making her hair move and flow naturally.
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queve
01/11/2011 02:47 PM (UTC)
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I'll just say this again:

Kitana's best hair-style (ever) was in MKDA. Absolutely gorgeous.

I still remember my first reaction when I saw that first beautiful picture of her fighting Johnny Cage:



I fell in love with her. The look suits her really well. She looks very pretty and more importantly she doesn't look like a strange train-wreck (not really talking about the renders, but about her in-game model which looks fantastic). The hair is very long, but, it's still very beautiful and with quite a lovely animation. It is a billion times smoother and natural than the "new style".

I just don't understand how they went from that to this:







The ridiculous heavy hair and that stupid looking bow/ribbon...they all seem to have a life of their own!

I understand that the "long hair" idea has become a kind of "signature" for Kitana (a nod/link to Sindel?), but, if it's really going to keep looking like that I much rather they changed it and didn't even bother trying to do the same for the character that fits it the most: Sindel.

I don't think the long hair from MKvsDC or MK9 fits Kitana, at all. However, the MKDA style fitted her perfectly.

I would take the MKU/MKG bun over this hair anytime, specially after her gorgeous MKSM render. That, imo, is the best Kitana has ever looked (the render, not in-game, and it would have been even better with the long MKDA hair-style).

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seanay
01/11/2011 03:53 PM (UTC)
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Sindels hair is now shorter then Kitanas, but i like that they have changed her!

i mean if Dead or Alive can make hair flow smothly and look good on even the ps2 and xbox, surely the MK team can do it on the ps3 and xbox 360!
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Jaded-Raven
01/11/2011 03:54 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
I'll just say this again:

Kitana's best hair-style (ever) was in MKDA. Absolutely gorgeous.

I still remember my first reaction when I saw that first beautiful picture of her fighting Johnny Cage:



I fell in love with her. The look suits her really well. She looks very pretty and more importantly she doesn't look like a strange train-wreck (not really talking about the renders, but about her in-game model which looks fantastic). The hair is very long, but, it's still very beautiful and with quite a lovely animation. It is a billion times smoother and natural than the "new style".

I just don't understand how they went from that to this:







The ridiculous heavy hair and that stupid looking bow/ribbon...they all seem to have a life of their own!

I understand that the "long hair" idea has become a kind of "signature" for Kitana (a nod/link to Sindel?), but, if it's really going to keep looking like that I much rather they changed it and didn't even bother trying to do the same for the character that fits it the most: Sindel.

I don't think the long hair from MKvsDC or MK9 fits Kitana, at all. However, the MKDA style fitted her perfectly.

I would take the MKU/MKG bun over this hair anytime, specially after her gorgeous MKSM render. That, imo, is the best Kitana has ever looked (the render, not in-game, and it would have been even better with the long MKDA hair-style).



I agree, her MKDA hair was both sophisticated and linked her to Sindel in a rather cool way. I don't mind that Kitana has long hair like her mother, but Kitana is a controlled person, and so should her hair be. Her MKDA hairstyle was by far the coolest and unique.
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01/11/2011 04:30 PM (UTC)
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i love her MKDA hair as well. Sindel and her should have that long of hair.
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01/11/2011 04:40 PM (UTC)
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Love these kinds of threads. Wonder how many are Still worried about Ermac's nose lol.
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queve
01/11/2011 04:56 PM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
Love these kinds of threads. Wonder how many are Still worried about Ermac's nose lol.


I'm not sure if you were sarcastic or not, but, if you were: that really is a very unfair and bad comparison.

It's not like Ermac's nose has "a life of its own" or as if it made his face/skull look "alien-shaped". The Ermac nose complaint was silly nit-picking that can't compare to Kitana's hair.
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Devan
01/11/2011 04:59 PM (UTC)
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Well pretty much I love her look. But yes her hair animation does need tweaking. :)
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01/11/2011 05:00 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
Love these kinds of threads. Wonder how many are Still worried about Ermac's nose lol.


I'm not sure if you were sarcastic or not, but, if you were: that really is a very unfair and bad comparison.

It's not like Ermac's nose has "a life of its own" or as if it made his face/skull look "alien-shaped". The Ermac nose complaint was silly nit-picking that can't compare to Kitana's hair.

Obviously it was Sarcasm. Kitana's hair is fine and Ermac nose is a nose. Let it be lol.
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01/11/2011 05:02 PM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
queve Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
Love these kinds of threads. Wonder how many are Still worried about Ermac's nose lol.


I'm not sure if you were sarcastic or not, but, if you were: that really is a very unfair and bad comparison.

It's not like Ermac's nose has "a life of its own" or as if it made his face/skull look "alien-shaped". The Ermac nose complaint was silly nit-picking that can't compare to Kitana's hair.

Obviously it was Sarcasm. Kitana's hair is fine and Ermac nose is a nose. Let it be lol.


More power to you if you think Kitana's hair is fine. A majority will still disagree.

I always thought the complaints on Ermac's nose were just a joke...A nose is a nose and his looks perfectly normal.
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01/11/2011 05:08 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
queve Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
Love these kinds of threads. Wonder how many are Still worried about Ermac's nose lol.


I'm not sure if you were sarcastic or not, but, if you were: that really is a very unfair and bad comparison.

It's not like Ermac's nose has "a life of its own" or as if it made his face/skull look "alien-shaped". The Ermac nose complaint was silly nit-picking that can't compare to Kitana's hair.

Obviously it was Sarcasm. Kitana's hair is fine and Ermac nose is a nose. Let it be lol.


More power to you if you think Kitana's hair is fine. A majority will still disagree.

I always thought the complaints on Ermac's nose were just a joke...A nose is a nose and his looks perfectly normal.

I can almost see that happening. But if there's any Kitana fan out there who Defends her like you Do Sonya, rest assured you'll get the short end stick of it.
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Jaded-Raven
01/11/2011 05:38 PM (UTC)
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I like that Ermac has a big nose. Power to big noses!

But Minion, do you seriously think that Kitana's hair animation looks good as it is now? Don't you find it moving rather unnaturally and artificial? Hair does not move like that, unless it is made of rubber.
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queve
01/11/2011 06:01 PM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
queve Wrote:
More power to you if you think Kitana's hair is fine. A majority will still disagree.

I always thought the complaints on Ermac's nose were just a joke...A nose is a nose and his looks perfectly normal.

I can almost see that happening. But if there's any Kitana fan out there who Defends her like you Do Sonya, rest assured you'll get the short end stick of it.


Fat chance considering many Kitana fans also disagree on the matter tongue.

Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I like that Ermac has a big nose. Power to big noses!

But Minion, do you seriously think that Kitana's hair animation looks good as it is now? Don't you find it moving rather unnaturally and artificial? Hair does not move like that, unless it is made of rubber.


Exactly.

It's not like the other characters have "perfectly natural and 100% realistic" hair, but, they do look more realistic and believable than that.

I still wonder how they managed to make Sonya's bangs animation so smooth and natural while the other long hairs look like wigs or rubber. What's up with that MK team?

Mileena's hair looks good too.
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RazorsEdge701
01/11/2011 06:45 PM (UTC)
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I miss the bun.

Never really liked the super-long ponytail from MKDA or any of the subsequent variations on "my hair reaches my knees because Sindel is my mom" craziness.
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wdm6789
01/11/2011 06:50 PM (UTC)
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This is the best hair style Kitana has ever had. It looked good down in MK2 and it had either been in a bun or pony tail in every game since then. It was about time Kitana let her hair down again and I think this hair style is awesome and very fitting for Kitana, Im just saying that its too long. They should keep Kitana's hair style the same, just make it shorter so its only about like mid-lower back length, I think that would fix a lot of the animation problems too. I will be very disappointed if the game is released and Kitana's hair has not been fixed. If they are going to make her hair that long, they need to make it work, flow, move naturally.







Like if they were to cut off the top half of her hair, where it starts to go all crazy, then they would have a much more appropriate length and it wouldnt have a crazy rubber band effect. Like Kitana's hair should be to the end of her hand thats in the air, that would be a much better hair length.


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RazorsEdge701
01/11/2011 06:53 PM (UTC)
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wdm, could you please learn how to use the edit function properly instead of making the same post over and over again?
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Icebaby
01/11/2011 06:55 PM (UTC)
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Princesses do not need long hair to make them more beautiful then the already are.

Leave the long hair to Rapunzel, I would rather see the bun again. This new hairstyle looks ridiculous and not just because of how the hair is animated, but the long hair just doesn't suit any MK girl in this game with the exception of Sindel.
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wdm6789
01/11/2011 06:56 PM (UTC)
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I edited everything just fine. Im trying to delete those other 2 posts, but there is no delete post button. I was really getting tired of the bun/ponytail. Kitana needed to let her hair down again. Mileena and Jade got to in MKD, so now Kitana finally can again too.
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RazorsEdge701
01/11/2011 07:03 PM (UTC)
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wdm6789 Wrote:
I edited everything just fine. Im trying to delete those other 2 posts, but there is no delete post button. I was really getting tired of the bun/ponytail. Kitana needed to let her hair down again. Mileena and Jade got to in MKD, so now Kitana finally can again too.


Yeah, there IS no delete post button. There never was one on MKO.

That's why you should've edited your FIRST post to say what you wanted, instead of making two more posts.
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Garlador
01/11/2011 07:26 PM (UTC)
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I think Kitana's hair looks just fine. She's ALWAYS had the longest hair out of anyone, even more so than her mother.

My only problem is with the physics, which, admittedly, you can tell the team is working on fixing because her hair is looking significantly better in action (though still not perfect).
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