KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Only reason I bring it up is to show that we didn't need another character who uses Batarangs.
And the most important part of the argument is that she wasn't requested, and had no reason to be included at all. And yeah you'll say "Well the DLC was planned months ahead of that poll." Well guess what?
People would rather wait awhile to get what they actually DO want, instead of getting characters to serve as fillers.
But the thing is if the only thing you can bring up is her projectile then you really don't have a leg to stand on you know? Only reason I bring it up is to show that we didn't need another character who uses Batarangs.
And the most important part of the argument is that she wasn't requested, and had no reason to be included at all. And yeah you'll say "Well the DLC was planned months ahead of that poll." Well guess what?
People would rather wait awhile to get what they actually DO want, instead of getting characters to serve as fillers.
I've already explained why she was a good choice to be included. Primarily my response to Vash's first post. Batgirl doesn't NEED to have her presence in this game justified because she's Batgirl. People can try to make it seem like she's unpopular or unoriginal but the truth is they'd prefer an even more obscure and unpopular characters themselves. Hence my original comment being "it's not too many bat-family characters, just not the ones that they want". Which is fair. You like who you like. But saying she was a bad choice because she has thematic similarities to an existing character but wanting DLC who has thematic similarities to existing characters destroys your argument.
Now I'll admit she wasn't requested but none of the first four DLC characters with the exception of Lobo were characters that had legions of people demanding their inclusion. Probably because she wasn't the bat-character people wanted.
Just look at peoples reaction to Red Hood. A Robin of which we technically have two, a gunslinger of which we have two as well I think and another bat-family character that we have seven. I mean
And she's hardly filler. Bane and Killer Frost and all the other mooks are the filler but even then their gameplay justifies their inclusion.
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This is true.
And yeah, that thought crossed my mind. I can't say I'd be completely against him being a Grundy alt.(I love his gameplay), but it'd be nice to see him get the full treatment.
I think it'd be better if he was a full character as well. I mean Grundy is a little plant based but I'm think Swamp Thing would be much more so. Also probably should be a little faster than Grundy even though he is pretty big.This is true.
And yeah, that thought crossed my mind. I can't say I'd be completely against him being a Grundy alt.(I love his gameplay), but it'd be nice to see him get the full treatment.
KungLaodoesntsuck •07/29/2013 03:43 PM (UTC) •
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Just because she's "iconic" she's a good DLC choice? Absolutely not.
DLC should be based on what fans what. Just because people know her doesn't mean they WANT her. And that's what you don't understand. You can't justify her being a good DLC choice because she wasn't a good DLC choice. And since you simply refuse to accept that, clearly arguing with you is just pointless.
Good day sir.
DLC should be based on what fans what. Just because people know her doesn't mean they WANT her. And that's what you don't understand. You can't justify her being a good DLC choice because she wasn't a good DLC choice. And since you simply refuse to accept that, clearly arguing with you is just pointless.
Good day sir.
KungLaodoesntsuck •07/29/2013 05:19 PM (UTC) •
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And again that applies to more characters than Batgirl yet who are we discussing? You should've taken that silent anger somewhere else several replies ago young man.
And again that applies to more characters than Batgirl yet who are we discussing? You should've taken that silent anger somewhere else several replies ago young man.
Except those characters weren't DLC. Alright I'm done.
Darkhound74 •07/29/2013 11:53 PM (UTC) •
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LucaTurilli •07/30/2013 08:52 PM (UTC) •
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Scorpion is closer to a hero than a villain in my book.
I'm figuring we're only going to get one more DLC character, and it'll probably be a villain.
She's not an anti-hero in the same way Scorpion is. Scorpion was a decent guy manipulated into becoming a hateful specter hellbent on vengeance. He's pretty much a victim of deception, and when he's been free of that illusion, he's acted in the benefit of good.
Selina is a criminal. She's not a super villain, but she's still a big time criminal.
I'm figuring we're only going to get one more DLC character, and it'll probably be a villain.
Phantoms Wrote:
It bothers me that Scorpion is still on the Hero's side....So, we all consider scorpion an anti-hero now... I mean, Catwoman's an anti hero, but you don't see her on the hero's side.
It bothers me that Scorpion is still on the Hero's side....So, we all consider scorpion an anti-hero now... I mean, Catwoman's an anti hero, but you don't see her on the hero's side.
She's not an anti-hero in the same way Scorpion is. Scorpion was a decent guy manipulated into becoming a hateful specter hellbent on vengeance. He's pretty much a victim of deception, and when he's been free of that illusion, he's acted in the benefit of good.
Selina is a criminal. She's not a super villain, but she's still a big time criminal.
Shinomune •07/30/2013 09:57 PM (UTC) •
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LucaTurilli Wrote:
She's not an anti-hero in the same way Scorpion is. Scorpion was a decent guy manipulated into becoming a hateful specter hellbent on vengeance. He's pretty much a victim of deception, and when he's been free of that illusion, he's acted in the benefit of good.
Selina is a criminal. She's not a super villain, but she's still a big time criminal.
Phantoms Wrote:
It bothers me that Scorpion is still on the Hero's side....So, we all consider scorpion an anti-hero now... I mean, Catwoman's an anti hero, but you don't see her on the hero's side.
It bothers me that Scorpion is still on the Hero's side....So, we all consider scorpion an anti-hero now... I mean, Catwoman's an anti hero, but you don't see her on the hero's side.
She's not an anti-hero in the same way Scorpion is. Scorpion was a decent guy manipulated into becoming a hateful specter hellbent on vengeance. He's pretty much a victim of deception, and when he's been free of that illusion, he's acted in the benefit of good.
Selina is a criminal. She's not a super villain, but she's still a big time criminal.
Writers like Ed Brubaker don't feel the same way.
LucaTurilli •07/30/2013 11:05 PM (UTC) •
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How is being a thief of her caliber even debatable? She's a criminal. She steals shit, incredibly valuable shit.
LucaTurilli •07/30/2013 11:42 PM (UTC) •
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Everyone on the left side is actively looking to make the world a better place. Scorpion, when not on his vengeance crusade, would side with the heroes. Catwoman isn't leaping into battle to fight for anyone but herself or Holly. She's a low-tier villain, but a high-tier criminal. She's not evil, but she's not a hero. She's not good... she's just "bad".
TemperaryUserName New sig on the way •07/31/2013 03:05 AM (UTC) •
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Maybe it's too late in the thread to be saying this, but I actually don't have a problem with Batgirl now that Martian Manhunter made the cut. In terms of gameplay, she's everything I wanted out of Batman.
Though if iOS silhouette is any indication, I have a feeling Red Hood is next. Not wild about that, but oh well.
Though if iOS silhouette is any indication, I have a feeling Red Hood is next. Not wild about that, but oh well.
TemperaryUserName Wrote:
Maybe it's too late in the thread to be saying this, but I actually don't have a problem with Batgirl now that Martian Manhunter made the cut. In terms of gameplay, she's everything I wanted out of Batman.
Though if iOS silhouette is any indication, I have a feeling Red Hood is next. Not wild about that, but oh well.
Maybe it's too late in the thread to be saying this, but I actually don't have a problem with Batgirl now that Martian Manhunter made the cut. In terms of gameplay, she's everything I wanted out of Batman.
Though if iOS silhouette is any indication, I have a feeling Red Hood is next. Not wild about that, but oh well.
What IOS silhouette?
Detox •07/31/2013 05:55 AM (UTC) •
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
Maybe it's too late in the thread to be saying this, but I actually don't have a problem with Batgirl now that Martian Manhunter made the cut. In terms of gameplay, she's everything I wanted out of Batman.
Maybe it's too late in the thread to be saying this, but I actually don't have a problem with Batgirl now that Martian Manhunter made the cut. In terms of gameplay, she's everything I wanted out of Batman.
I look at batgirl doing her teleport the same way I look at cyber sub zero when he does the ice parry. With jealousy and laments of how hard I could've destroyed the competition, if only my character of choice had that move.
WhereThereIsSmoke •07/31/2013 06:24 AM (UTC) •
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I'm just here for the batarangs.
redman Wrote:
What IOS silhouette?
TemperaryUserName Wrote:
Maybe it's too late in the thread to be saying this, but I actually don't have a problem with Batgirl now that Martian Manhunter made the cut. In terms of gameplay, she's everything I wanted out of Batman.
Though if iOS silhouette is any indication, I have a feeling Red Hood is next. Not wild about that, but oh well.
Maybe it's too late in the thread to be saying this, but I actually don't have a problem with Batgirl now that Martian Manhunter made the cut. In terms of gameplay, she's everything I wanted out of Batman.
Though if iOS silhouette is any indication, I have a feeling Red Hood is next. Not wild about that, but oh well.
What IOS silhouette?
He meant this, which is actually Red Son Deathstroke and Zod.
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