One thing I don't understand is what (once again) I found on Headlineplanet.com. It said that WWE was viewing Orton's title reign as a disaster. Soooo, they just hand the title back to Triple H again?! WTF is up with that? Have Benoit get it, or Chris Jericho, or even Kane! But nooo. They gotta hand it on a platter to HHH again. Sooo, how long will this reign last? 1 year? Yeah that sounds right.

And another thing. If they took the title from Orton because he was green and inexperienced in the ring, and wasn't really champ material, THEN WHY THE FUCK DID THEY GIVE THE WWE TITLE TO JOHN FREAKING BRADSHAW LAYFIELD?!

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NoObSaIbOt777 Wrote: One thing I don't understand is what (once again) I found on Headlineplanet.com. It said that WWE was viewing Orton's title reign as a disaster. Soooo, they just hand the title back to Triple H again?! WTF is up with that? Have Benoit get it, or Chris Jericho, or even Kane! But nooo. They gotta hand it on a platter to HHH again. Sooo, how long will this reign last? 1 year? Yeah that sounds right. And another thing. If they took the title from Orton because he was green and inexperienced in the ring, and wasn't really champ material, THEN WHY THE FUCK DID THEY GIVE THE WWE TITLE TO JOHN FREAKING BRADSHAW LAYFIELD?!

ps - I don't think orton was too 'green' at all, i guess nobody saw that match with Mick Foley

I saw it. But The Only thing that made it Good was the Bumps the Dude took, and That Foley was there, I dont find Orton good in the ring at all

To me Orton is just all hype he doesnt do anything in the ring impressive all he does is chinlocks most of the time and he has one of the worst finishers in the business IMO.

meh, As the sayin goes, 'Different Strokes for Different folks'

blade-tsung Wrote: meh, As the sayin goes, 'Different Strokes for Different folks'

Yeah, that's your opinion. The WWE must not have had the confidence in him as you do. They had more faith in the Warrior, hell his reign was crap too, but they let him carry the gold for a few months, then he lost it to Slaughter at Rumble 92, Orton sucks so bad, they took it after not even one month. But i do agree that Trips is the wrong one to give it to. Benoit deserved it more, or hell, even Jericho, but I guess when you fuck the boss's daughter, you get everything on a silver pladder!
All in all, not a great ppv, but watchable.

Drfatality, your cousin must be amazing to finish one game in that short of time. I'd hate to play against him! Any way, HCTP is in my opinion the best game out there right now, I may try DOR if I get the chance to. SvR will be the best game when it comes out hands down!

blade-tsung Wrote: meh, As the sayin goes, 'Different Strokes for Different folks'

Haha, don't worry B-T, I did enjoy Orton as the champ. But at least now they have time to build him and HHH up again. Maybe the WWE will make him work on his skills a bit more now.

Randy wasn't ready to be champ give him a year of polishing and try him again as champ.But JBL just sucks plain and simple,he was never ready to become champ and never will be.

Give it to Y2J, after being the 1st Undisputed Champ, they've given him nothing!

i enjoyed unforgiven. there were moments during the ladder match that i thought christian was going to get it. thank god the wwe didn't make that mistake.

i was surprised that hhh won and how was randys title reign a disaster? i thought he was good as the champion but what can you do.

As much as I dislike the fact that Orton became World's champion, I was very much hoping that Triple H wouldn't win. If they're trying to build up Orton into our next hero, don't make him lose the title on his firt PPV title defense, damn it. Especially to someone like Triple H. I've gone to respecting Triple H and enjoying his work very much to fucking hating him now. If the man had any respect for the fans, he would've DECLINED getting the title again. Even if it wasn't his idea to get the title, I'm sure his contract (if he even has one) doesn't force him to become champion whenever the company wants.
Chris Benoit was a champion like we had never seen before. Alot of people didn't think he was very entertaining, and hey, by certain standards he sure wasn't an entertaining man. He wasn't carismatic. He didn't make the crowd repeat his catch phrases. He didn't transmit electricity to the fans like The Rock, and Steve Austin, and Y2J. But he wasn't boring, either. He was just absolutely badass, and as realistic as they come, IMO. Awesome champion. Orton... Orton isn't electrfying either. You all may say that he's more carismatic than Chris Benoit, but he's no Steve Austin in his interviews. He's no Ric Flair. He's not even a Scott Steiner. And he's a shit actor whenever the spotlight isn't on him.
I don't think Orton is really green in the ring. I think he's a good performer, he sells things well, he knows how to boast, and he sure loves those headlocks and schoolboys. But still, he's not champion material. They should've brought the title back to Benoit.
But, I guess that Benoit, just like Scott Steiner, just like Kevin Nash, and just like Booker T, will simply 'forget' that the world title exists, and stop caring about getting the strap. Why ask for world title shots, when you can ask for a match with Evolution, right? Alot more important. Or even more important, a match with a rival for the managerial services of a Diva. Yeap, that sure beats the world championship.
Fuck Triple H. With the creative control he seems to have, he'll probably keep on wrestling longer than Ric Flair, and STILL get the world title.
I can just picture it now... Triple H, at 65 years old, the oldest world champion ever.

ok HHH having the title MUST STOP! I have had it up to the MOON with him! "i'm Triple Huhhhhhhhhh I am married to sephuhhhhhhhh I can get the title whenver i wantUhhhhhhhhh" "I cant win without helpuhhhhhhhhh......."

give to someone more deserving and not as old......

Trips is champ again?

Damn. Orton = Another burial.

* The following is the Official WWE.com RAW Preview for Monday's post-Unforgiven edition:

SEATTLE SLUGFEST, UNFORGIVEN FALLOUT
Sept. 13, 2004

One Diva will go home and the other two will duke it out to possibly stay.

Just call it the “Seattle Slugfest.”

Carmella, Joy and Christy all remained alive for the $250,000 RAW Diva Search grand prize last week. But after one of the three gets the boot this week, the remaining two will lace up the gloves for a boxing match.

That alone should be enough reason to watch RAW (9/8 CT on Spike TV).

But there also figures to be plenty of fallout from Unforgiven. Will Randy Orton still be World Heavyweight Champion or will Triple H recapture the championship he so desperately desires?

Will HBK get his revenge on Kane? And who will be the new Intercontinental Champion after Christian and Chris Jericho battled for Edge’s stripped title? Get all the answers this Monday on RAW, live from Seattle.


* Since recently dropping the WWE Title, Vince McMahon has actively discussed Eddie Guerrero's position within the company with him. Guerrero has been assured severl times lately that McMahon doesn't hold him responsible for the low PPV buyrates and house show attendance that was visible during his title reign. Eddie's title reign.

Guerrero hasn't been the most confident worker over the past couple of months and the black-out he had in his main event match against Angle was attributed to wear-and-tear and stress resulting from the hurricanes that recently hit Florida where many in his family live.

* As things currently stand, it looks like the Undertaker is set to take on Heidenreich at the Survivor Series PPV while. JBL's opponent is still in the works.

* WWE has been advertising a 'boxing' match between the two final RAW diva contestants tonight. There is a small problem with this though as boxing has certain rules and regulations that must be followed.

We heard over the weekend that The Washington Department of Licensing (they oversea boxing matches) heard about the match scheduled and contacted WWE about it.

We are being told that WWE was told the match would now be a pillow fight. If WWE decides to go through with the boxing match, the department would not be able to stop them. They could contact the state after the fact and report it as a violation and then the state could press charges. I guess we'll have to wait and see on this one.

* The original plan was for Randy Orton to escape Unforgiven with the title, and continue on a long-term title reign. However, this reporter also noted that officials within WWE began pushing for an HHH win, and ultimately, got their way.

The rationale behind putting the belt on HHH is that WWE feels Randy Orton can be more effective "chasing" the title, rather than carrying the title. WWE does not feel Orton has gotten over enough, or carries enough momentum, to be a meaningful champion, so needs to develop the necessary heat by chasing the title and earning fan support, leading to a more climactic future title win.

A theory reported late last month was that HHH might have pushed for Randy Orton's face turn as a way to kill Orton's momentum and regain the title himself. While the series of events is somewhat accurate, most do not believe HHH had any interest in maliciously killing Orton's character.

Raw should be interesting tonight. I always like the fall-out from a ppv, especially if it was a good ppv.

Triple H sucks HHHard.

I wonder why nobody backstage will tell Triple H that we are fucking tired of his bullshit?

havent posted here in a while,
ON TOPIC: i am glad that HHH became champ again, i personaly thought orton was a train wreck. but he was entertaining
example: *orton throws a punch* DOOSH!

Probably cuz they like where they are working.

Zentile Wrote: I wonder why nobody backstage will tell Triple H that we are fucking tired of his bullshit?

kill_lots Wrote: havent posted here in a while, ON TOPIC: i am glad that HHH became champ again, i personaly thought orton was a train wreck. but he was entertaining example: *orton throws a punch* DOOSH!

Actually Triple H does that.Alot too,every punch he throws.

He learned it from Steiner. Except that Steiner went ''boeuf''.

I liked how Kane acted kind of worried about Lita there,showing human emotion.I think it would be cool if he hunted down Gene S.Guy didnt seem too bad,or if Kane just goes after random people like the beginning of the unmasking.


Especially if he chokeslams Bischoff off the stage through some tables again,that chokeslam was one of my favorites of all time.Can someone find me a video of it?

I wonder what this announcement from Vince is gonna be......

On another topic, I didn't like the main event tonight, everybody saw it coming, so it wasn't that exciting.

Raw was pretty good tonight.

HBK/Y2J was great. Carmella is a hot piece of ass. Stacy looked SO FINE. Mr Benjamin came back kickin ass. Kane killed a fetus. Good shit.

Next week, Vince's HUGE announcement..I bet money it's the 'Interactive PPV' thingy

blade-tsung Wrote: Raw was pretty good tonight. HBK/Y2J was great. Carmella is a hot piece of ass. Stacy looked SO FINE. Mr Benjamin came back kickin ass. Kane killed a fetus. Good shit. Next week, Vince's HUGE announcement..I bet money it's the 'Interactive PPV' thingy

Hopefully thats not the announcement,they showed commercials the whole time.Did anyone else see that Simon guy with the Simon System?He looked pretty dumb.Wierd gimmicks lately.Smackdown gets a guy who is obsessed with being cool,raw gets a personal trainer,wow.