MK4 Timeline vs MK X timeline
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posted01/16/2015 10:26 PM (UTC)by
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MK X takes place over 25 years

In the original timeline how many years after UMK3 did MK4 take place ?

MK Historians this tread is for you!
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01/03/2015 06:54 AM (UTC)
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Also I don't know if I can post this link or not. mods please delete if I can't

http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:74496
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01/03/2015 08:52 AM (UTC)
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Thousands of years ago in a battle with the fallen elder god known as Shinnok, I was responsible for the death of an entire civilization. To rid all realms of Shinnok's menace I waged a war that plunged the earth into centuries of darkness and banished Shinnok to a place called the Netherrealm. Now after Shao Kahn's defeat at the hands of the earth warriors, Shinnok has managed to escape his confines of the Netherrealm. The war is now being fought once again, only this time, it can be won by mortals.

Most likely not long after UMK3.
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01/03/2015 09:34 AM (UTC)
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Seriously..fuck mk2011's story mode ending. Fuck that cutscene with a razor-studded elephant dildo.
Ever since that stupid scene took place, this whole page became flooded with MK4 story/midway dickriding speculation topics out of the fucking latrine cesspit it came from. The only reason they even referenced the post midway era MK3-onward characters in mk2011 was just for a marketing ploy. We are near the final stretch of NRS processing this installment. Haven't you all realized yet that Boon would've been confirmed any of the oh so delicate, magnificent, illustrious, wonder of the world, masterpiece, known as the 3D era old timeline characters if he actually friggin liked them?
You guys kill me.
To not even realize that those characters are nothing more than a bad taste in Boon's mouth, even though he masks it so well. But what do I fucking know? Maybe he will just re-hash the precious MIdway MK4 storyline so the "opinionated" in question will shut their trap.
Remember folks, Beggars can't be choosers!! wink
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01/03/2015 05:48 PM (UTC)
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FROID Wrote:
Seriously..fuck mk2011's story mode ending. Fuck that cutscene with a razor-studded elephant dildo.
Ever since that stupid scene took place, this whole page became flooded with MK4 story/midway dickriding speculation topics out of the fucking latrine cesspit it came from. The only reason they even referenced the post midway era MK3-onward characters in mk2011 was just for a marketing ploy. We are near the final stretch of NRS processing this installment. Haven't you all realized yet that Boon would've been confirmed any of the oh so delicate, magnificent, illustrious, wonder of the world, masterpiece, known as the 3D era old timeline characters if he actually friggin liked them?
You guys kill me.
To not even realize that those characters are nothing more than a bad taste in Boon's mouth, even though he masks it so well. But what do I fucking know? Maybe he will just re-hash the precious MIdway MK4 storyline so the "opinionated" in question will shut their trap.
Remember folks, Beggars can't be choosers!! wink


Somebody is a little sensitive. You do make me want to go back and watch the cut scene with a razor-studded elephant dildo.grin
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01/03/2015 06:14 PM (UTC)
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It's when threads like these pop up that I wish Razor was still around...

His saltiness was always amusing but I TOTALLY understood. In fact, (to anyone who's read his "book" of issues with the NT) I wouldn't of even given it as many plusses as he did.

Yeah, I'm sure it doesn't happen long after the events of MK3. Probably 5 years or so, just long enough for them to rebuild Earthrealm then have Shinnok come to place it all in danger again.
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01/03/2015 07:05 PM (UTC)
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FROID Wrote:
Seriously..fuck mk2011's story mode ending. Fuck that cutscene with a razor-studded elephant dildo.
Ever since that stupid scene took place, this whole page became flooded with MK4 story/midway dickriding speculation topics out of the fucking latrine cesspit it came from. The only reason they even referenced the post midway era MK3-onward characters in mk2011 was just for a marketing ploy. We are near the final stretch of NRS processing this installment. Haven't you all realized yet that Boon would've been confirmed any of the oh so delicate, magnificent, illustrious, wonder of the world, masterpiece, known as the 3D era old timeline characters if he actually friggin liked them?
You guys kill me.
To not even realize that those characters are nothing more than a bad taste in Boon's mouth, even though he masks it so well. But what do I fucking know? Maybe he will just re-hash the precious MIdway MK4 storyline so the "opinionated" in question will shut their trap.
Remember folks, Beggars can't be choosers!! wink


Jesus Christ, angry much? Quan-Chi is a main character and both Tanya and Shinnok make cameo appearances in MK2011 so why wouldn't people speculate the possibility of MK4's story line being a part of MKX? Clearly, Ed doesn't hate all of those characters, assuming he hates them at all. I'll admit that I only like a hand full of characters who appeared after MK3 and majority of those are from MK4.

In all honesty, I'd be really shocked if parts of MK4's story line isn't implemented in this upcoming game in someway. The last game literally left on the cliffhanger of Shinnok talking about his plans to invade Earthrealm. Regardless of if MKX will heavily focus on this or not, it wouldn't make sense for them to just completely ignore it.

On an ending note, you need to take a chill pill, sir wink all the OP was asking was how much time had passed between the events of MK3 to MK4. Also, if the topic of MK4 bothers you so much, why did you even take time out of your day to comment on it? Getting yourself worked up over something you could have easily ignored seems a bit childish.
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01/03/2015 07:07 PM (UTC)
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unleash_your_tounge Wrote:
It's when threads like these pop up that I wish Razor was still around...

His saltiness was always amusing but I TOTALLY understood. In fact, (to anyone who's read his "book" of issues with the NT) I wouldn't of even given it as many plusses as he did.

Yeah, I'm sure it doesn't happen long after the events of MK3. Probably 5 years or so, just long enough for them to rebuild Earthrealm then have Shinnok come to place it all in danger again.


Whatever happened to Razor anyways?
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01/03/2015 07:24 PM (UTC)
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Venkman28 Wrote:
unleash_your_tounge Wrote:
It's when threads like these pop up that I wish Razor was still around...

His saltiness was always amusing but I TOTALLY understood. In fact, (to anyone who's read his "book" of issues with the NT) I wouldn't of even given it as many plusses as he did.

Yeah, I'm sure it doesn't happen long after the events of MK3. Probably 5 years or so, just long enough for them to rebuild Earthrealm then have Shinnok come to place it all in danger again.


Whatever happened to Razor anyways?



I second this. When and why did he leave? What am I missing
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01/03/2015 07:32 PM (UTC)
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GoDisNotHereTODAY Wrote:
Venkman28 Wrote:
unleash_your_tounge Wrote:
It's when threads like these pop up that I wish Razor was still around...

His saltiness was always amusing but I TOTALLY understood. In fact, (to anyone who's read his "book" of issues with the NT) I wouldn't of even given it as many plusses as he did.

Yeah, I'm sure it doesn't happen long after the events of MK3. Probably 5 years or so, just long enough for them to rebuild Earthrealm then have Shinnok come to place it all in danger again.


Whatever happened to Razor anyways?



I second this. When and why did he leave? What am I missing


He got banned for writing really horrible stuff apparently on purpose.
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01/03/2015 07:32 PM (UTC)
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GoDisNotHereTODAY Wrote:
Venkman28 Wrote:
unleash_your_tounge Wrote:
It's when threads like these pop up that I wish Razor was still around...

His saltiness was always amusing but I TOTALLY understood. In fact, (to anyone who's read his "book" of issues with the NT) I wouldn't of even given it as many plusses as he did.

Yeah, I'm sure it doesn't happen long after the events of MK3. Probably 5 years or so, just long enough for them to rebuild Earthrealm then have Shinnok come to place it all in danger again.


Whatever happened to Razor anyways?



I second this. When and why did he leave? What am I missing


he got banned and refuses to post anymore :/
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01/03/2015 07:32 PM (UTC)
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Well he got banned for an argument with another user but has decided not to come back. Why? I don't think I'm at liberty to say. Give me a few to see if I can find the thread where another user posted his farewell message... EDIT: Check the NetherKast - Episode 6 thread, page 3, about half-way down. His message was posted by user Noobsmoke92.
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01/03/2015 07:48 PM (UTC)
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I think this timeline might be different even from the MK9 one. Idk, with the current flow of info, we might not know what the heck this new story is about until release date, Kung Lao'rs reveal raised a lot of questions.
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01/03/2015 07:49 PM (UTC)
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xysion Wrote:
GoDisNotHereTODAY Wrote:
Venkman28 Wrote:
unleash_your_tounge Wrote:
It's when threads like these pop up that I wish Razor was still around...

His saltiness was always amusing but I TOTALLY understood. In fact, (to anyone who's read his "book" of issues with the NT) I wouldn't of even given it as many plusses as he did.

Yeah, I'm sure it doesn't happen long after the events of MK3. Probably 5 years or so, just long enough for them to rebuild Earthrealm then have Shinnok come to place it all in danger again.


Whatever happened to Razor anyways?



I second this. When and why did he leave? What am I missing


He got banned for writing really horrible stuff apparently on purpose.


That sucks because he had some interesting opinions, and I really enjoyed reading his posts but not too long ago he was being pretty rude to another user for seemingly no good reason, some borderline racist things were said. He claimed it was to make a point about this site needing mods or something, but I think he went about it the wrong way.
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01/03/2015 08:07 PM (UTC)
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I say good riddance, he was an insufferable, self-important, egotistical prick.

The little time I've been here I've always seen him involved in some kind of drama, a constant sneering attitude, insulting other users without provocation and making childish tantrums. Having knowledge in the MK lore doesn't make him an unquestionable source, above any form of criticism nor gives him the right to look down on others, if you fail at a basic level of human decency on a community website and don't expect repercussions you're delusional.
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01/03/2015 08:32 PM (UTC)
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Razor was okay in my book.

Where the fuck did J-R go?
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01/03/2015 08:38 PM (UTC)
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Denizen Wrote:
I say good riddance, he was an insufferable, self-important, egotistical prick.

The little time I've been here I've always seen him involved in some kind of drama, a constant sneering attitude, insulting other users without provocation and making childish tantrums. Having knowledge in the MK lore doesn't make him an unquestionable source, above any form of criticism nor gives him the right to look down on others, if you fail at a basic level of human decency on a community website and don't expect repercussions you're delusional.


Nailed it.
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01/03/2015 08:44 PM (UTC)
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If I remember correctly, MK4 is 8 years after Mythologies. And Mythologies is 2 years before MK1.

I don't know if MK2011 timeline shortends regarding MK1-UMK3 one, but considering that seems that timeline is like released dates, then probably MK4 is 3 years after UMK3.

Maybe 5 years now, if MK2011 happened all the story in the same year. But with the changes of storyline, who knows if Shinnok's rise from Netherrealm is closed/far away from those dates...
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01/03/2015 09:24 PM (UTC)
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mkwhopper Wrote:
Razor was okay in my book.

Where the fuck did J-R go?


Agreed. Every post was enjoyable, and his passion for MK and it's lore, as well as this forum was damn near unmatched.

I'm assuming his departure is something along the same lines. Although he had a penchant for redundantly stating the lack of mods and singling Mick out. I'll miss him as well though. He also wrote enjoyable posts.

"Trying to decipher MK's New Timeline"

mkwhopper Wrote:
Razor was okay in my book.

Where the fuck did J-R go?


Mines to. I thought I knew the p's and q's of MK but reading his post just made me think other wise.. And anytime I've ever seen him attack anyone was whenever somebody came after him first....

But to answer the question.... I would say...... Idk...
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01/03/2015 10:24 PM (UTC)
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OttoVonRuthless Wrote:
Denizen Wrote:
I say good riddance, he was an insufferable, self-important, egotistical prick.

The little time I've been here I've always seen him involved in some kind of drama, a constant sneering attitude, insulting other users without provocation and making childish tantrums. Having knowledge in the MK lore doesn't make him an unquestionable source, above any form of criticism nor gives him the right to look down on others, if you fail at a basic level of human decency on a community website and don't expect repercussions you're delusional.


Nailed it.


QFT. Good riddance.
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01/04/2015 12:32 AM (UTC)
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I'm willing to wager that at some point, Razor had at least tried to have a discussion or a debate with many users (or maybe tried to correct them regarding lore) and they probably thought he was picking on them or they just couldn't handle the heat. And I can almost guarantee it wasn't his intention to "down" them or make them look like a fool, but to spark a discussion or to educate them on the lore. There's a reason we have a canonical timeline. Some of those things are just not debatable. It's the way they happened....at least...until a bunch of "??" starting popping up due to the NT.

Just to let folks know that even if it wasn't him, it probably would of been someone else. Which is good. We need more users like that to support the forum and help it thrive. I've noticed that a lot of users here take things way too personally, especially if someone calls them out or wants to debate something. Most of the time (although that's debatable as of late), a user isn't necessarily attacking YOU, but a STATEMENT or an IDEA that you've written. There's a huge difference. So just go with the flow and try not to be so defensive. tongue

Personality can be hard to translate into text. I know mine sometimes is. Which is why I refuse to have a Twitter, Facebook and such. But at least on here, we all have a common ground : Mortal Kombat. If nothing else, you can't deny the guy knew his stuff and was a valued member here for a decade. So I'm personally looking forward to a swift return.

/rant. (If that's what you wanna call it)

On another note, I've been doing some research because of this thread and what I've found is that the most downtime between any conflict or game obviously was between MK4 and Deadly Alliance. Which explains how Quan and Shang were able to get the drop on everyone, especially Liu Kang. There were about 4-5 years of peace in that time and all the rest only had 2, maybe 3. So if we go by release dates, MK3 ended roughly 1995-96, and originally MK4 didn't start until 1997.

But now, since Shinnok doesn't have to contend with Shao Kahn, (not to mention has a bunch of the good guys under his and Quan's control) things can move on a bit faster. So if you want to put dates on it, MKX could possibly start in 1995 (the end of MK3) and continue on until 2020. That's if we're following the pattern of constant conflict. If not, you can throw in 5 years of peace, resuming the timeline at 2000, and lasting until 2025.

That's all I got atm, but I'm still digging, so I might update this.
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01/04/2015 12:45 AM (UTC)
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I've been here since it was MK5.org and I remember Razor was around for a very long time as well.

I never had much interaction with him personally so it's nothing in regards to my interaction with him, but I saw how he interacted with others plenty. The guy was a cock. What everyone said about him is true and it came through in his posts. He knew his shit, without a doubt, and you have to respect that, but he thought that knowledge entitled him to...something. I'm not sure what that something is, but anyone who acts like their word is law is a cunt, no matter how much they know or how much they "aspire to teach" (which is more condescending bullshit.) And when people challenge your word-law, and you act like a child, it makes you that much harder to tolerate.

We all love MK, absolutely, it's why we're here. But at the end of the day, it's a video game, designed to be silly, malleable. Those qualities are why it has lasted as long as it has. MK has never been the product etched in stone that so many people who "defend the canon" claim it to be. The story was always shifting, always. Anyone who aspires to write the MK Bible would need a lot of footnotes. There is no central authority on what should be, only people knowledgeable in what was and what is.
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01/04/2015 01:03 AM (UTC)
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I believe that Razor became Tartakin Trash on the TRMK boards the guy is a tool. Fuck him and his couch!!!!!furiousfurious
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01/04/2015 01:13 AM (UTC)
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I always thought MK4 happened 3-4 years after MK3. And deadly alliance maybe a year or two after that.

I always found it odd that the intro to MK9 had the characters in their MK1-3 outfits (in story mode) so it made it look like MK1-MK Armageddon happened in one day. I wished the characters were in their MKDA-MKA outfits in the intro that would've been awesome.

Also around when MKDA and MKD l thought certain characters looked older (Sonya, Sub Zero, etc) so I always thought that the years passed between the Shinnok invasion and the deadly alliance forming.
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