Yea Mortal Kombat is in dire need of a reboot
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posted05/22/2010 12:27 AM (UTC)by
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UltimateRyu
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07/25/2003 04:29 PM (UTC)
Mortal Kombat Armageddon was the final nail in the coffin for the franchise's mythology. It was really a fan serviced MK Trilogy 2 cheaply dressed up with a half assed story that haplessly discarded the culmination of everything that preceded it. How do you continue another game in the series from that mess? This may be why Boon opted to develop and release a cross-over last game.

Now that Warner Bros has acquired all rights to Mortal Kombat you better believe that they want to do things right with this highly acclaimed IP. The studio has a top class reputation and always sets a high standard. If they were smart they would reboot the franchise and have any new silver screen movies follow suit. Well WB is absolutely smart. All fingers are pointing towards a reboot with MK9.
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assasSINister
05/21/2010 02:35 PM (UTC)
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Wwwwwelllllllllll....

I said it before in the topic that was already discussing reboot/remake/sequel/prequel ideas.

MK9 could be a sequel to MKD, meaning MKA never happened as far as the canon storyline is concerned. It's not like MKA really answered the questions fans were left with after MKD. MKA totally disregarded many things Deception put down on the table. So discrediting MKA wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit. MKA could be a "what if" scenario.

I don't know what you mean by all fingers are pointing to reboot. If it's speculation and rumors, I don't really consider it proof.

If the series is reboot in a sense that we start over, fine. But I wouldn't want it to be a remake of MK1 with just a few new things thrown in. If it starts over, I want the story to be told differently and have it taken to a different path we havent' seen before. Maybe Earthrealm loses this time?
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05/21/2010 05:03 PM (UTC)
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UltimateRyu Wrote:
Mortal Kombat Armageddon was the final nail in the coffin for the franchise's mythology. It was really a fan serviced MK Trilogy 2 cheaply dressed up with a half assed story that haplessly discarded the culmination of everything that preceded it. How do you continue another game in the series from that mess?

I'll say it for probably the hundredth time, a reboot is not a restart. Just like how the reboot of the Marvel universe does not replace the original Marvel universe; it's a completely separate entity (which by the way, was made completely for marketing reasons), so I don't think it's fair to say MK "needs" a reboot. With a reboot, all you'll be doing is starting a separate series while ending the MK storyline on a weak note. No one wins.

I know people just want to undo a lot of bad story points, but fiction doesn't work like that. You can abandon a story, or you can create another, but you can't start over.
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05/21/2010 05:07 PM (UTC)
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Really, you can't just start a new storyline and leave it at that: what a mess would it be? It's bad when we already have retcons, but this is one mess too many.
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ErmacMk5
05/21/2010 07:08 PM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
UltimateRyu Wrote:
Mortal Kombat Armageddon was the final nail in the coffin for the franchise's mythology. It was really a fan serviced MK Trilogy 2 cheaply dressed up with a half assed story that haplessly discarded the culmination of everything that preceded it. How do you continue another game in the series from that mess?

I'll say it for probably the hundredth time, a reboot is not a restart. Just like how the reboot of the Marvel universe does not replace the original Marvel universe; it's a completely separate entity (which by the way, was made completely for marketing reasons), so I don't think it's fair to say MK "needs" a reboot. With a reboot, all you'll be doing is starting a separate series while ending the MK storyline on a weak note. No one wins.

I know people just want to undo a lot of bad story points, but fiction doesn't work like that. You can abandon a story, or you can create another, but you can't start over.


if it was just a few bad story points I wouldn't mind; shit happens. But beyond the original trilogy, Mortal Kombat is practically founded on bad story points; villains who's bark is worse than their bite (Shinnok, Onaga) meaningless deaths/ apparent deaths (Goro, Kano, Shao Kahn, Deadly Alliance) and illogical character 360s (Dark Raiden, Zombie Liu Kang, Scorpion ping ponging between bad and good) and characters who were potentially moving up in the story being squashed for the purpose of keeping status quo (Kintaro, Fujin, Kung Lao). So yeah, I think MK is essentially unfixable at this point.
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LycaniLLusion
05/21/2010 09:54 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, you could not have posted this in a thread already made for this topic...sheesh. How do you become a mod on here? I would consider being one because I am on here enough to clean things up.

Beyond that point I would state my opinion but I am tired of repeating my thoughts on this so I will post a link to the appropriate thread.
Thank you come again! >Click here for the thread.
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TheBigCityToilet
05/21/2010 11:19 PM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
UltimateRyu Wrote:
Mortal Kombat Armageddon was the final nail in the coffin for the franchise's mythology. It was really a fan serviced MK Trilogy 2 cheaply dressed up with a half assed story that haplessly discarded the culmination of everything that preceded it. How do you continue another game in the series from that mess?

I'll say it for probably the hundredth time, a reboot is not a restart. Just like how the reboot of the Marvel universe does not replace the original Marvel universe; it's a completely separate entity (which by the way, was made completely for marketing reasons), so I don't think it's fair to say MK "needs" a reboot. With a reboot, all you'll be doing is starting a separate series while ending the MK storyline on a weak note. No one wins.

It's not about "replacing". When DC rebooted their stuff with the Crisis, everything they did after that was the "real" story, right? everything before the Crisis still existed, now it just wasn't part of the story anymore. Everybody understood that and moved on.

Damn near everybody was happy to finally get DC's stories out of the clusterfuck they had become. So what's wrong with doing that for Mortal Kombat?
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05/22/2010 12:27 AM (UTC)
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ErmacMk5 Wrote:


if it was just a few bad story points I wouldn't mind; shit happens. But beyond the original trilogy, Mortal Kombat is practically founded on bad story points; villains who's bark is worse than their bite (Shinnok, Onaga) meaningless deaths/ apparent deaths (Goro, Kano, Shao Kahn, Deadly Alliance) and illogical character 360s (Dark Raiden, Zombie Liu Kang, Scorpion ping ponging between bad and good) and characters who were potentially moving up in the story being squashed for the purpose of keeping status quo (Kintaro, Fujin, Kung Lao). So yeah, I think MK is essentially unfixable at this point.

Well, my bias towards Deception is no secret, as I consider it a success on most levels. But for the person who feels MK lost sight with MKD/MKA, I don't see why the series couldn't proceed with choice characters, since I don't think MKA placed any huge logical restrictions on a possible sequel. If MKA unfolded as most of us believe it did, the realms were probably restored to their original state. At least at face-value it seems there's room for a new story and villain. Or as assasSINister said, we could just remove MKA from canon. I'd rather loose a finger than an arm.

Also, I always thought Scorpion was a good candidate for the elder god's champion. He was powerful, neutral, and I don't think the vengeance role was working well anymore.

TheBigCityToilet Wrote:

It's not about "replacing". When DC rebooted their stuff with the Crisis, everything they did after that was the "real" story, right? everything before the Crisis still existed, now it just wasn't part of the story anymore. Everybody understood that and moved on.

Damn near everybody was happy to finally get DC's stories out of the clusterfuck they had become. So what's wrong with doing that for Mortal Kombat?

The strange thing about Crisis is that it's not really a reboot in the technical sense. Reason being is that the reset is actually explained by events within the story to reconcile internal contradictions. Almost the opposite of a reboot: instead of discarding the previous stories, they created a plot element which made everything ever canon.

Another user stated (sorry, I can't remember who), that MKA could do the same thing. The final battle at the pyramid would be so catastrophic that it completely reunited the One Being, but in a last attempt by character XYZ, the One Being dispersed again creating a second world with many of the previous one's similarities.
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